Re: [fonc] Current topics

2013-01-04 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Thu, Jan 03, 2013 at 08:27:53PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: you might want to google biological computing - you'll start finding things like this: http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/blog/2009/jul/24/bacteria-computer (title: Bacteria make computers look like pocket calculators)

Re: [fonc] Current topics

2013-01-03 Thread Simon Forman
On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 10:35 PM, BGB cr88...@gmail.com wrote: On 1/2/2013 10:31 PM, Simon Forman wrote: On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 7:53 AM, Alan Kay alan.n...@yahoo.com wrote: The most recent discussions get at a number of important issues whose pernicious snares need to be handled better. In

Re: [fonc] Current topics

2013-01-03 Thread Alan Kay
To: Alan Kay alan.n...@yahoo.com; Fundamentals of New Computing fonc@vpri.org Sent: Wednesday, January 2, 2013 11:09 PM Subject: Re: [fonc] Current topics On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 7:53 AM, Alan Kay alan.n...@yahoo.com wrote: As humans, we are used to being sloppy about message creation and sending

Re: [fonc] Current topics

2013-01-03 Thread Miles Fidelman
BGB wrote: Whoa, I think you just invented nanotech organelles, at least this is the first time I've heard that idea and it seems pretty mind-blowing. What would a cell use a cpu for? mostly so that microbes could be programmed in a manner more like larger-scale computers. say, the

Re: [fonc] Current topics

2013-01-03 Thread BGB
On 1/3/2013 7:27 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: BGB wrote: Whoa, I think you just invented nanotech organelles, at least this is the first time I've heard that idea and it seems pretty mind-blowing. What would a cell use a cpu for? mostly so that microbes could be programmed in a manner more

Re: [fonc] Current topics

2013-01-02 Thread Simon Forman
On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 7:53 AM, Alan Kay alan.n...@yahoo.com wrote: The most recent discussions get at a number of important issues whose pernicious snares need to be handled better. In an analogy to sending messages most of the time successfully through noisy channels -- where the noise also

Re: [fonc] Current topics

2013-01-02 Thread BGB
On 1/2/2013 10:31 PM, Simon Forman wrote: On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 7:53 AM, Alan Kay alan.n...@yahoo.com wrote: The most recent discussions get at a number of important issues whose pernicious snares need to be handled better. In an analogy to sending messages most of the time successfully

Re: [fonc] Current topics

2013-01-02 Thread David Barbour
On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 7:53 AM, Alan Kay alan.n...@yahoo.com wrote: As humans, we are used to being sloppy about message creation and sending, and rely on negotiation and good will after the fact to deal with errors. You might be interested in my article on avoiding commitment in HCI, and its

[fonc] Current topics

2013-01-01 Thread Alan Kay
The most recent discussions get at a number of important issues whose pernicious snares need to be handled better. In an analogy to sending messages most of the time successfully through noisy channels -- where the noise also affects whatever we add to the messages to help (and we may have

Re: [fonc] Current topics

2013-01-01 Thread Paul Homer
My thinking has been going the other way for some time now. I see the problem as the need to build bigger systems than any individual can currently imagine. The real value from computers isn#39;t just collecting the input from a single person, but rather #39;combining#39; the inputs from huge

Re: [fonc] Current topics

2013-01-01 Thread Casey Ransberger
Read this guy! On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 7:53 AM, Alan Kay alan.n...@yahoo.com wrote: The most recent discussions get at a number of important issues whose pernicious snares need to be handled better. In an analogy to sending messages most of the time successfully through noisy channels --

Re: [fonc] Current topics

2013-01-01 Thread Casey Ransberger
Inline. On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 7:53 AM, Alan Kay alan.n...@yahoo.com wrote: The most recent discussions get at a number of important issues whose pernicious snares need to be handled better. In an analogy to sending messages most of the time successfully through noisy channels -- where the