Hi Jecel,
Am 02.09.2011 um 20:51 schrieb Jecel Assumpcao Jr.:
Michael,
your solution is a little more indirect than dragging arrows in Self
since you have to create a global, which is what I would like to avoid.
ah, but instead of Smalltalk #at:put: you can use any object member's
setter.
If you had the MorphicWrappers package, the use case becomes very easy:
1- type in the air 'EllipseMorph new' to add the new morph to the world
2- put the mouse over the Ellipse morph and send messages directly to it
(eg: 'self color: Color blue).
Actually, you don't even need to type 'self' as
Hi Jecel,
Am 01.09.2011 um 15:17 schrieb Jecel Assumpcao Jr.:
It is frustrating for me that while the Squeak VM could easily handle an
expression like
myView add: yellowEllipseMorph copy.
I have no way of typing that. I can't use any object as a literal nor as
input. In Etoys I can get
(was: [fonc] Re: Ceres and Oberon)
Alan,
The Flex Machine was the omelet you have to throw away to clean the pan,
so I haven't put any effort into saving that history.
Fair enough! Having the table of contents but not the text made me think
that perhaps the section B.6.b.ii The Disk as a Serial
more FLEXibility (was: [fonc] Re: Ceres and Oberon)
Alan,
The Flex Machine was the omelet you have to throw away to clean the pan,
so I haven't put any effort into saving that history.
Fair enough! Having the table of contents but not the text made me think
that perhaps the section B.6.b.ii
: Thursday, September 1, 2011 3:17 PM
Subject: a little more FLEXibility (was: [fonc] Re: Ceres and Oberon)
Alan,
The Flex Machine was the omelet you have to throw away to clean the pan,
so I haven't put any effort into saving that history.
Fair enough! Having the table of contents
FLEXibility (was: [fonc] Re: Ceres and Oberon)
Alan,
The Flex Machine was the omelet you have to throw away to clean the
pan,
so I haven't put any effort into saving that history.
Fair enough! Having the table of contents but not the text made me think
that perhaps the section B.6.b.ii
Alan,
[second part was about wafer scale memories]
That was a great idea and was eventually adopted by DRAM makers to
increase yields (spare rows that could replace faulty ones at
manufacturing test time). These days losses due to cutting up the wafers
or encapsulation are pretty low, but I am
Kay alan.n...@yahoo.com; Fundamentals of New Computing
fonc@vpri.org
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 31, 2011 3:09 PM
*Subject:* Re: [fonc] Re: Ceres and Oberon
Alan,
thanks for the detailed history!
1966 was the year I entered grad school (having programmed for 4-5 years,
but essentially
...@merlintec.com
Sent: Thursday, September 1, 2011 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: [fonc] Re: Ceres and Oberon
Has [1] been mentioned yet? If so, apologies.
I think many here are implicitly referencing this when bringing up Oberon.
[1] http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?HeInventedTheTerm
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 2:25
On 01.09.2011, at 15:17, Jecel Assumpcao Jr. wrote:
Was being able to input drawings one of the good things? There was one
Lisp GUI that put a lot of effort into allowing you to input objects
instead of just text. It did that by outputting text but keeping track
of where it came from. So if
Alan Kay wrote:
I'm glad that he has finally come to appreciate OOP.
There are two kinds of people on this list. Those who can tell when Alan
is joking and those that can't. :-D
Don't know which I am but I can at least say that the OOP that is in
Oberon is not what Alan had in mind when he
Subject: [fonc] Re: Ceres and Oberon
Alan Kay wrote:
I'm glad that he has finally come to appreciate OOP.
There are two kinds of people on this list. Those who can tell when Alan
is joking and those that can't. :-D
Don't know which I am but I can at least say that the OOP that is in
Oberon
From: Eduardo Cavazos wayo.cava...@gmail.com
To: fonc@vpri.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 12:54 AM
Subject: [fonc] Re: Ceres and Oberon
Alan Kay wrote:
I'm glad that he has finally come to appreciate OOP.
There are two kinds of people on this list. Those who can
Alan,
thanks for the detailed history!
1966 was the year I entered grad school (having programmed for 4-5 years,
but essentially knowing nothing about computer science). Shortly after
encounters with and lightning bolts from the sky induced by Sketchpad and
Simula, I found the Euler papers
From: Jecel Assumpcao Jr. je...@merlintec.com
To: Alan Kay alan.n...@yahoo.com; Fundamentals of New Computing
fonc@vpri.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2011 3:09 PM
Subject: Re: [fonc] Re: Ceres and Oberon
Alan,
thanks for the detailed history!
1966 was the year I entered grad school (having
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