3, 2013 3:18 AM
*Subject:* Re: [fonc] Task management in a world without apps.
One issue with the instance development in Squeak is that it is quite
fragile. It is easy to pull the building blocks apart and it all falls down
like a house of cards.
It's currently hard to work on different
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*From:* David Barbour dmbarb...@gmail.com
*To:* Fundamentals of New Computing fonc@vpri.org
*Sent:* Thursday, October 31, 2013 8:58 AM
*Subject:* Re: [fonc] Task management in a world without apps.
Instead of 'applications', you have objects you can manipulate
Sent: Sunday, November 3, 2013 3:18 AM
Subject: Re: [fonc] Task management in a world without apps.
One issue with the instance development in Squeak is that it is quite fragile.
It is easy to pull the building blocks apart and it all falls down like a
house of cards.
It's currently hard
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 6:17 AM, Josh Grams j...@qualdan.com wrote:
On 2013-11-01 10:37AM, Chris Warburton wrote:
My dislike of canvas is that it arrogantly presumes that a user agent
has a display to be formatted.
I used to develop a CMS called ocPortal which got lots of praise from
its
David Leibs david.le...@oracle.com writes:
Hi Chris,
I get your point but I have really grown to dislike that phrase Worse
is Better. Worse is never better. Worse is always worse and worse
never reduces to better under any set of natural rewrite rules. Yes
there are advantages in the short
David Barbour dmbarb...@gmail.com writes:
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Chris Warburton chriswa...@googlemail.com
wrote:
In the case of an OS, providing a dumb box to draw on is much easier
than a complete, complementary suite of MVC/Morphic/etc. components,
even though developers are
Instead of 'applications', you have objects you can manipulate (compose,
decompose, rearrange, etc.) in a common environment. The state of the
system, the construction of the objects, determines not only how they
appear but how they behave - i.e. how they influence and observe the world.
Task
Barbour dmbarb...@gmail.com
To: Fundamentals of New Computing fonc@vpri.org
Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2013 8:58 AM
Subject: Re: [fonc] Task management in a world without apps.
Instead of 'applications', you have objects you can manipulate (compose,
decompose, rearrange, etc.) in a common
Alan Kay alan.n...@yahoo.com writes:
One of the interesting misunderstandings was that Apple and then MS
didn't really understand the universal viewing mechanism (MVC) so they
thought views with borders around them were windows and view without
borders were part of desktop publishing, but in
n 31 October 2013 17:37, Chris Warburton chriswa...@googlemail.com wrote:
…many filesystems have provided metadata facilities
over the years, but these have all hit limits which end up being worked
around by storing metadata in files, making the FS unnecessarily
complex.
ReiserFS, from at
Hi Chris,
I get your point but I have really grown to dislike that phrase Worse is
Better. Worse is never better. Worse is always worse and worse never reduces
to better under any set of natural rewrite rules. Yes there are advantages in
the short term to being first to market and things that
In the spirit of equivocation when I look at the world we live in and and note
the trends then I feel worse, not better.
-David Leibs
On Oct 31, 2013, at 11:10 AM, David Barbour dmbarb...@gmail.com wrote:
The phrase Worse is better involves an equivocation - the 'worse' and
'better'
:58 AM
*Subject:* Re: [fonc] Task management in a world without apps.
Instead of 'applications', you have objects you can manipulate (compose,
decompose, rearrange, etc.) in a common environment. The state of the
system, the construction of the objects, determines not only how they
appear
It can be depressing, certainly, to look at the difference between where
we are and where we could be, if we weren't short-sighted and greedy.
OTOH, if you look at where we are vs. where we were, I think you can
find a lot to be optimistic about. FP and types have slowly wormed their
way into many
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Chris Warburton chriswa...@googlemail.com
wrote:
In the case of an OS, providing a dumb box to draw on is much easier
than a complete, complementary suite of MVC/Morphic/etc. components,
even though developers are forced to implement their own incompatible
Essentially a problem oriented window is what you want. In something like
Lively Kernel, this becomes a problem oriented widget.
On Oct 31, 2013 10:30 AM, Casey Ransberger casey.obrie...@gmail.com
wrote:
A fun, but maybe idealistic idea: an application of a computer should
just be what one
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