No, I do not accept this. I do not think it is in the project's best
interests, I do not think it is in computer science's best interests,
and I do not think it is in the public interest. That is why I am
banging on the door (nice phrase) and trying to persuade them
otherwise. (Note: not
On 20 December 2010 13:42, Brian Gilman brian.gil...@gmail.com wrote:
Just because you believe that Release early, release often is the best
release strategy, doesn't mean that everyone at VPRI does.
I really don't understand comments like this. Fairly obviously I know
that not everyone at
On 21/12/2010, at 2:01 AM, Reuben Thomas wrote:
They don't have to answer any questions, or indeed demands. (Pardon me
if I err, but I've noticed no active participant from VPRI in this
thread, quite possibly because, as I admit, I've made the same point
before, rather more gently, which is
2010/12/20 Murat Girgin gir...@gmail.com:
Perhaps someone from VPRI should comment and explain their reasons of not
releasing much, and certainly not often.
They did comment last time I raised the same question, so you can
check the archives. If they are of the same mind now, there's little
On 20 December 2010 22:38, Ross Kendle ross.ken...@gmail.com wrote:
I value the opportunity to engage with the members of the VPRI team through
this list.
And how much engagement do you get? Not a lot, if you look at the
number of posts by VPRI members to this list, though what little does
On 19 December 2010 02:14, Steve Taylor s...@ozemail.com.au wrote:
Reuben Thomas wrote:
1. You prefer to release only polished artefacts. This is just
egotistical.
Demanding that people show you their work before it's ready can come across
as pretty egotistical too.
I already said I'm not
Mark,
On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 6:26 PM, Mark Haniford markhanif...@gmail.comwrote:
I wish we could stop stupid analogies, like to a pregnant woman. But
hey, at least you didn't use a car analogy.
Do not rush to conclusions too fast.. )
Anyway, car or any other analogy seems to be not as
Reuben Thomas wrote:
1. You prefer to release only polished artefacts. This is just egotistical.
Demanding that people show you their work before it's ready can come
across as pretty egotistical too.
Yes - I'd love to see a lot more FONC stuff released - but I don't think
we've got a
?Can't agree more with Thomas.
For most of the programmers out there, the best way to 'get in touch' with
the project is to see the actual guts;
leave the shiny presentations for sponsors and marketing people ;-)
For example, the OMeta release was hugely successful - I find more and more
http://www.20thingsilearned.com/open-source/1
Cheers,
--Ken Ritchie (Atlanta)
;-)
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 8:13 AM, Oleksandr Nikitin wizza...@gmail.comwrote:
?Can't agree more with Thomas.
For most of the programmers out there, the best way to 'get in touch' with
the project is to see the
I enjoy *both* the writings and the code. Bring it *all* on!
And the active essays are a great way to integrate them.
Why?
[Writings] share vision, intent, possibilities, analysis, and background
stories.
[Codings] implement specific realizations and demonstrations of dynamic
concepts.
I am
Year and years have passed by. There's something else going on here.
I'll keep my speculations to myself.
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 10:40 PM, Julian Leviston jul...@leviston.net wrote:
Usually, when I'm working on a development of any kind, I don't release my
half-baked ideas.
This has a
No way dude... they've release most of what they've been working on...
J
On 18/12/2010, at 3:53 PM, Mark Haniford wrote:
Year and years have passed by. There's something else going on here.
I'll keep my speculations to myself.
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 10:40 PM, Julian Leviston
They're bootstrapping a whole platform. It's an experimental platform. This
stuff takes time and sometimes there can get to be too many cooks in the
kitchen if you aren't careful. I didn't mean to start up a gimme-the-bits
thread: mea culpa. self break.
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