Re: a little more FLEXibility (was: [fonc] Re: Ceres and Oberon)

2011-09-05 Thread Michael Haupt
Hi Jecel, Am 02.09.2011 um 20:51 schrieb Jecel Assumpcao Jr.: Michael, your solution is a little more indirect than dragging arrows in Self since you have to create a global, which is what I would like to avoid. ah, but instead of Smalltalk #at:put: you can use any object member's setter.

Re: a little more FLEXibility (was: [fonc] Re: Ceres and Oberon)

2011-09-05 Thread Francisco Garau
If you had the MorphicWrappers package, the use case becomes very easy: 1- type in the air 'EllipseMorph new' to add the new morph to the world 2- put the mouse over the Ellipse morph and send messages directly to it (eg: 'self color: Color blue). Actually, you don't even need to type 'self' as

Re: a little more FLEXibility (was: [fonc] Re: Ceres and Oberon)

2011-09-02 Thread Michael Haupt
Hi Jecel, Am 01.09.2011 um 15:17 schrieb Jecel Assumpcao Jr.: It is frustrating for me that while the Squeak VM could easily handle an expression like myView add: yellowEllipseMorph copy. I have no way of typing that. I can't use any object as a literal nor as input. In Etoys I can get

Re: a little more FLEXibility (was: [fonc] Re: Ceres and Oberon)

2011-09-02 Thread Alan Kay
(was: [fonc] Re: Ceres and Oberon) Alan, The Flex Machine was the omelet you have to throw away to clean the pan, so I haven't put any effort into saving that history. Fair enough! Having the table of contents but not the text made me think that perhaps the section B.6.b.ii The Disk as a Serial

P.S. Re: a little more FLEXibility (was: [fonc] Re: Ceres and Oberon)

2011-09-02 Thread Alan Kay
=93gCOAAACAAJ Cheers, Alan From: Alan Kay alan.n...@yahoo.com To: Jecel Assumpcao Jr. je...@merlintec.com Cc: Fundamentals of New Computing fonc@vpri.org Sent: Friday, September 2, 2011 8:23 AM Subject: Re: a little more FLEXibility (was: [fonc] Re: Ceres

Re: a little more FLEXibility (was: [fonc] Re: Ceres and Oberon)

2011-09-02 Thread shaun gilchrist
: Thursday, September 1, 2011 3:17 PM Subject: a little more FLEXibility (was: [fonc] Re: Ceres and Oberon) Alan, The Flex Machine was the omelet you have to throw away to clean the pan, so I haven't put any effort into saving that history. Fair enough! Having the table of contents

Re: a little more FLEXibility (was: [fonc] Re: Ceres and Oberon)

2011-09-02 Thread John Zabroski
FLEXibility (was: [fonc] Re: Ceres and Oberon) Alan, The Flex Machine was the omelet you have to throw away to clean the pan, so I haven't put any effort into saving that history. Fair enough! Having the table of contents but not the text made me think that perhaps the section B.6.b.ii

Re: a little more FLEXibility (was: [fonc] Re: Ceres and Oberon)

2011-09-02 Thread Jecel Assumpcao Jr.
Alan, [second part was about wafer scale memories] That was a great idea and was eventually adopted by DRAM makers to increase yields (spare rows that could replace faulty ones at manufacturing test time). These days losses due to cutting up the wafers or encapsulation are pretty low, but I am

Re: a little more FLEXibility (was: [fonc] Re: Ceres and Oberon)

2011-09-01 Thread Bert Freudenberg
On 01.09.2011, at 15:17, Jecel Assumpcao Jr. wrote: Was being able to input drawings one of the good things? There was one Lisp GUI that put a lot of effort into allowing you to input objects instead of just text. It did that by outputting text but keeping track of where it came from. So if