Re: Wiki Migration and other issues

2004-03-04 Thread Christian Geisert
Christian Geisert wrote:
J.Pietschmann wrote:
[..]

Should we wait for the Apache XML reorganization to
complete or should we rush ahead and create out own
Wiki already?
+1 for the new wiki
It has a nicer look, supports XML export and we can have 'commit 
messages' to fop-cvs
Others opinions?

Considering this a strong recommendation from infrastructure
I'd say we migrate to the new wiki (of course if there are no -1s)
There's a tool for automatic converting content from the old wiki
and if this doesn't work I'll volunteer to do it manually.
Christian


Re: Wiki Migration and other issues

2004-03-04 Thread Clay Leeds
On Mar 4, 2004, at 9:01 AM, Christian Geisert wrote:
Christian Geisert wrote:
J.Pietschmann wrote:
[..]
Should we wait for the Apache XML reorganization to
complete or should we rush ahead and create out own
Wiki already?
+1 for the new wiki
It has a nicer look, supports XML export and we can have 'commit 
messages' to fop-cvs
Others opinions?

Considering this a strong recommendation from infrastructure
I'd say we migrate to the new wiki (of course if there are no -1s)
There's a tool for automatic converting content from the old wiki
and if this doesn't work I'll volunteer to do it manually.
Christian
Sounds good to me... Looks 'snappier'! (sorry! ;-) and the added 
capabilities[1] look promising. There're a couple of other Wiki's I'm 
involved with I'd like to have upgraded to MoinMoinWiki as well. 
Anyway, this looks like a nice move to me, especially since it looks 
like the Apache General Wiki[2] has moved to MoinMoinWiki as well...

[1]
http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/MoinMoinFeatures
[2]
http://wiki.apache.org/general


Re: Wiki Migration and other issues

2004-03-04 Thread Clay Leeds
On Mar 4, 2004, at 9:20 AM, Clay Leeds wrote:
[2]
http://wiki.apache.org/general


BTW, I might add, that we're not the first... It seems[1] that 
Xindice[2] also has a MoinMoinWiki...

[1]
http://wiki.apache.org/xindice
[2]
http://xml.apache.org/xindice


RE: Wiki Migration and other issues

2004-03-04 Thread Andreas L. Delmelle
 -Original Message-
 From: Clay Leeds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

snip /
 Sounds good to me... Looks 'snappier'! (sorry! ;-) and the added
 capabilities[1] look promising. There're a couple of other Wiki's I'm

I also had a look, and apparently, the bottom-part (below 5. Contact...) of
the page is displayed localized (in Dutch from here) while all the rest of
the page displays in English.
Apart from this minor detail, it indeed looks much cooler than the previous,
so my blessing for this.

Cheers,

Andreas



Re: Wiki Migration and other issues

2004-03-04 Thread Peter B. West
Christian Geisert wrote:
Christian Geisert wrote:

J.Pietschmann wrote:


[..]

Should we wait for the Apache XML reorganization to
complete or should we rush ahead and create out own
Wiki already?


+1 for the new wiki
It has a nicer look, supports XML export and we can have 'commit 
messages' to fop-cvs


Others opinions?

Considering this a strong recommendation from infrastructure
I'd say we migrate to the new wiki (of course if there are no -1s)
There's a tool for automatic converting content from the old wiki
and if this doesn't work I'll volunteer to do it manually.
Ok by me.  From what I've seen on infrastructure@, there may be some 
post-conversion tidying to do.
+1

Peter
--
Peter B. West http://www.powerup.com.au/~pbwest/resume.html


Wiki Migration and other issues

2004-02-27 Thread J.Pietschmann
Hi all,
now that the ASF has its new Wiki farm up and running,
they pester everyone with moving from UseModWiki
 http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?HomePage
to the MoinMoinWiki:
 http://wiki.apache.org/general
Should we wait for the Apache XML reorganization to
complete or should we rush ahead and create out own
Wiki already?
The other issue: The hyphenation files with problematic
licenses are apparently still in the HEAD CVS ready for
checkout. I can't remember any status change here. What
should we doe with them?
J.Pietschmann


Re: Wiki Migration and other issues

2004-02-27 Thread Jeremias Maerki
Hehe, you thought the same thing at the same time. See my other post. I
really need to sleep over that one.

Concerning the Wiki: I see no immediate need right now unless there are
plans to shut down the old Wiki. But +0.

On 27.02.2004 20:58:29 J.Pietschmann wrote:
 Hi all,
 now that the ASF has its new Wiki farm up and running,
 they pester everyone with moving from UseModWiki
   http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?HomePage
 to the MoinMoinWiki:
   http://wiki.apache.org/general
 
 Should we wait for the Apache XML reorganization to
 complete or should we rush ahead and create out own
 Wiki already?
 
 The other issue: The hyphenation files with problematic
 licenses are apparently still in the HEAD CVS ready for
 checkout. I can't remember any status change here. What
 should we doe with them?



Jeremias Maerki



Re: Migration

2001-07-11 Thread Paul . Hussein


There aren't any fully integrated tools out there ( or I have missed them
).

I use XML Spy ( which is cool ), to do the XML bit, Antenna House XSL
Formatter to display the result of applying XSL to XML to produce FO, and
to edit and debug XSL int the IBM XSL Editor ( which is a really good tool
).

Anyone else have any better tools.






Chris Hamilton-Emery [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 11/07/2001 14:30:24

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Hi

I'm new here and apologies for any inanities. We're busy introducing an XML
workflow at Cambridge, and I want to begin considering the transfer of
traditional composition specifications to FO specs. But where do I start. I
have a DTD and the formatting of any XML will in part depend on a complex
relationship of elements and attributes and an FO spec dependent on these
variances. Nothing surprising here I guess, but is there an XSL stylesheet
tool I can use to design things? Does anybody out there offer consultancy
services of this kind? And lastly, all of this presupposes that I can use
FO
to achieve very high-quality setting of academic books and journals, but is
this the right direction?

That's my first set of queries!

Best

Chris

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- Original Message -
From: Michiel Verhoef [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 2:09 PM
Subject: RE: XHTML to PDF using FOP


 Hi,

 First, there is a weird d element in your last table. I'm no XHTML
expert
 but it is not HTML AFAIK.

 Second, some of the tr are missing td elements. A tr needs a td
(at
 least, in HTML it does)
 so my guess is that your XHTML is not valid HTML. Any xsl that converts
 valid HTML to say, fo will give
 errors or at least not the desired result..

 HTH,

 Michiel

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Re: Migration

2001-07-11 Thread Sebastian Rahtz

Chris Hamilton-Emery writes:

  services of this kind? And lastly, all of this presupposes that I can use FO
  to achieve very high-quality setting of academic books and journals, but is
  this the right direction?

My gut feeling is that you would be unwise to depend too much on FO
at this point in the game. Yes, XSL FO works, in various
implementations, and you can do pretty-reasonable typesetting, but

 - the spec is still not fully finished
 - it does  not aim to cover everything in this version
 - the implementations are very much in development

so of course you could and should set up some trial projects, but
don't assume you can switch to it at the end of the year :-}

I have just finished a typical simple book in FO, an academic
conference proceedings. The design is not complex at all, and the
result is indistinguishable from what I would have done last year in
LaTeX. But thats the rub - its like LaTeX, not Quark. So you have the
same power, the same problems, and the same support burden. With the
downside that the typesetting is taken to one remove, so that your
style cannot talk to the typesetting engine.

It's that very high-quality setting phrase that worries me. I know
what sort of standards you have in Cambridge, and I would not want to
bet money that FO is really up to the job.

Sebastian


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