Re: no visual tool for FOP?
Like FOP html2fo is still under development. It is stable but not complete. You are welcome to send me a list of html tags you want to be supported - or even better a sample file where they are used. Enrico Am Donnerstag, 22. November 2001 19:43 schrieben Sie: I am interested in most html2pdf, html2fo, but after I tried any of them, i am frustrated. some very lame ones support only 3 tags even. so i am wondering this tool support all html tags specified in HTML 4.0 DTD? On Sat, 17 Nov 2001, Enrico Schnepel wrote: Hello I've developed a tool html2fo for conversion of .html files to .fo. http://html2fo.sourceforge.net A similar tool is WH2FO at http://www-uk.hpl.hp.com/people/fabgia/wh2fo/wh2fo.html WH2FO is optimized for Word 2000 html files - html2fo is more general. Enrico Am Freitag, 16. November 2001 21:45 schrieben Sie: XMLSpy 4.1 has FO transformation built in as an option under the XSL menu. All you have to do is point it to FOP.bat. I guess you could call this a visual tool. But I'm going to guess that what the original poster is looking for is some kind of a WYSIWIG PDF editor that manipulates the underlying FO? That would be a pretty intense project. Do you think Adobe will ever implement a built-in fop processor? The Acrobat plug-in could come to life any time the browser comes across a .fo file, just like it does now when it sees a .pdf. Any pages that require precise coloring, layout, pagination, etc. would be candidates for conversion from html to fo. Definitely some interesting possibilities here. I suppose people could be doing the same thing now if they have Exchange, but when you can make little changes through a text editor it's a lot more convenient. You'd think they'd be all for it since it could drastically increase PDF viewing on the web. Although I guess it could cut into sales of their full-version Acrobat (what used to be called Exchange). So what part of it would they sell? Hmmm. Can even they do this within the licensing rules of this project? -Matt -Original Message- From: Charles Palmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: no visual tool for FOP? Hi team This is also something I am curious about. Here are two embryonic ideas - can anyone see any merit in them? 1 XMLSpy seems to have the ability to convert a Word document to XML. Could XSLT be used to transform this XML to FO, and thence to PDF? Then Word could be used as the visual tool. 2 Sun's new Star Office apparently saves files as XML (see http://xml.coverpages.org/starOfficeXML.html ). Could the word processor from StarOffice be used as the visual tool? By the way, XMLSpy mentions support or fop - does anyone have experience with this? Regards - Charles Palmer Technical Director, DSP Design Ltd email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7 Tapton Park Innovation Centre, Brimington Rd, Chesterfield S41 0TZ, UK ph: +44 (0) 1246 545 918 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: no visual tool for FOP?
XML spy crashes every time I try to use fop with it. When in doubt use the command line. I downloaded the visual tools for fo and found them royally confusing. What I expected was a interface to setup a page like in FrameMaker et al that would generate an XSLT/FO Style Sheet with the ability to play around with the source. So far I have not found a tool that does everything... Aaron Mehl - Original Message - From: Charles Palmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 12:56 PM Subject: RE: no visual tool for FOP? Hi team This is also something I am curious about. Here are two embryonic ideas - can anyone see any merit in them? 1 XMLSpy seems to have the ability to convert a Word document to XML. Could XSLT be used to transform this XML to FO, and thence to PDF? Then Word could be used as the visual tool. 2 Sun's new Star Office apparently saves files as XML (see http://xml.coverpages.org/starOfficeXML.html ). Could the word processor from StarOffice be used as the visual tool? By the way, XMLSpy mentions support or fop - does anyone have experience with this? Regards - Charles Palmer Technical Director, DSP Design Ltd email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7 Tapton Park Innovation Centre, Brimington Rd, Chesterfield S41 0TZ, UK ph: +44 (0) 1246 545 918 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: no visual tool for FOP?
Hello I've developed a tool html2fo for conversion of .html files to .fo. http://html2fo.sourceforge.net A similar tool is WH2FO at http://www-uk.hpl.hp.com/people/fabgia/wh2fo/wh2fo.html WH2FO is optimized for Word 2000 html files - html2fo is more general. Enrico Am Freitag, 16. November 2001 21:45 schrieben Sie: XMLSpy 4.1 has FO transformation built in as an option under the XSL menu. All you have to do is point it to FOP.bat. I guess you could call this a visual tool. But I'm going to guess that what the original poster is looking for is some kind of a WYSIWIG PDF editor that manipulates the underlying FO? That would be a pretty intense project. Do you think Adobe will ever implement a built-in fop processor? The Acrobat plug-in could come to life any time the browser comes across a .fo file, just like it does now when it sees a .pdf. Any pages that require precise coloring, layout, pagination, etc. would be candidates for conversion from html to fo. Definitely some interesting possibilities here. I suppose people could be doing the same thing now if they have Exchange, but when you can make little changes through a text editor it's a lot more convenient. You'd think they'd be all for it since it could drastically increase PDF viewing on the web. Although I guess it could cut into sales of their full-version Acrobat (what used to be called Exchange). So what part of it would they sell? Hmmm. Can even they do this within the licensing rules of this project? -Matt -Original Message- From: Charles Palmer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 1:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: no visual tool for FOP? Hi team This is also something I am curious about. Here are two embryonic ideas - can anyone see any merit in them? 1 XMLSpy seems to have the ability to convert a Word document to XML. Could XSLT be used to transform this XML to FO, and thence to PDF? Then Word could be used as the visual tool. 2 Sun's new Star Office apparently saves files as XML (see http://xml.coverpages.org/starOfficeXML.html ). Could the word processor from StarOffice be used as the visual tool? By the way, XMLSpy mentions support or fop - does anyone have experience with this? Regards - Charles Palmer Technical Director, DSP Design Ltd email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7 Tapton Park Innovation Centre, Brimington Rd, Chesterfield S41 0TZ, UK ph: +44 (0) 1246 545 918 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: no visual tool for FOP?
If you edit text in a structured way, i.e. using soft formattings instead of hard ones, you can use any tool as a structured editor - for flat structures, because e.g. both Word and StarOFfice can apply soft formats (styles) only sequentially. You can have some algorithm to bring a deeper structure into the data material afterwards by using context information for processing it. But then you'll have certain problems to get the data back into Word, if required. However, under certain circumstances, which may be today's requirements of any percentage between 30 and 90% of companies, the workflows is the (a) cheapest (b) most easily accepted (c) quickest. We use a Word2XML converter that strips Word data from anything that is format information. Styles are mapped to tags, and format information is added later with FO. It's likely that people like you and I work with XMLSpy, but I want to see that book author or machine engineer who is going into the trouble of abandoning his or her beloved Word environment. At least this is today's situation in my country. I don't know, how people will be used to work tomorrow, or are used to work already in other countries. Matthias Dott. Matthias Fischer abc.Mediaservice GmbH Nebelhornstraße 8 86807 Buchloe Tel. (08241) 9686-38 Fax (08241) 9686-26 http://www.abc-media.de e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ein Unternehmen der abc.Mediengruppe ---BeginMessage--- Hi team This is also something I am curious about. Here are two embryonic ideas - can anyone see any merit in them? 1 XMLSpy seems to have the ability to convert a Word document to XML. Could XSLT be used to transform this XML to FO, and thence to PDF? Then Word could be used as the visual tool. 2 Sun's new Star Office apparently saves files as XML (see http://xml.coverpages.org/starOfficeXML.html ). Could the word processor from StarOffice be used as the visual tool? By the way, XMLSpy mentions support or fop - does anyone have experience with this? Regards - Charles Palmer Technical Director, DSP Design Ltd email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7 Tapton Park Innovation Centre, Brimington Rd, Chesterfield S41 0TZ, UK ph: +44 (0) 1246 545 918 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---End Message--- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: no visual tool for FOP?
Hi team This is also something I am curious about. Here are two embryonic ideas - can anyone see any merit in them? 1 XMLSpy seems to have the ability to convert a Word document to XML. Could XSLT be used to transform this XML to FO, and thence to PDF? Then Word could be used as the visual tool. 2 Sun's new Star Office apparently saves files as XML (see http://xml.coverpages.org/starOfficeXML.html ). Could the word processor from StarOffice be used as the visual tool? By the way, XMLSpy mentions support or fop - does anyone have experience with this? Regards - Charles Palmer Technical Director, DSP Design Ltd email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 7 Tapton Park Innovation Centre, Brimington Rd, Chesterfield S41 0TZ, UK ph: +44 (0) 1246 545 918 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: no visual tool for FOP?
You could try checking out XSLFAST (http://www.xslfast.com/) that Stephan's been working on. JohnPT fop-dev-return-11458-jthaemlitz=oreillyauto.com@XML. APACHE.ORG To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: 11/12/01 02:29 PM Subject: no visual tool for FOP? Please respond to fop-dev I am wondering if there is no way for users to generate WISWIG xsl:fo files? like for HTML, users would use Dreamweaver, rather than writing programs Document doc.addElement(new Table(...)). I think it should be the same for PDF. Is there any program that intakes a parsed XHTML and convert it to PDF? (I doult all PDF is generated using hand written xsl:fo)... thanks a lot! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: no visual tool for FOP?
I am wondering if there is no way for users to generate WISWIG xsl:fo files? like for HTML, users would use Dreamweaver, rather than writing programs Document doc.addElement(new Table(...)). HP released something recently. I haven't tried it, but you can find it here: http://www-uk.hpl.hp.com/people/fabgia/foa/foa.html Joshua -- This message and any attachment is confidential and may be privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you have received it by mistake please let us know by reply and then delete it from your system; you should not copy the message or disclose its contents to anyone. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]