Re: FOP memory usage

2002-08-15 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Thu, 2002-08-15 at 17:37, Peter B. West wrote: > May I make so bold as to intrude on what is clearly a private > conversation? Comments below. Shhh.. don't let anyone know :) > I don't want these things now. But neither do I want A solution that > places severe limitations on the possibil

Re: FOP memory usage

2002-08-15 Thread Peter B. West
May I make so bold as to intrude on what is clearly a private conversation? Comments below. Keiron Liddle wrote: > Hi Arved, Joerg, > > It seems you have a different view of how keeps work than what I was > thinking. > Section 4.8 of the spec seems to be the only real description, last > parag

RE: FOP memory usage

2002-08-15 Thread Keiron Liddle
Hi Arved, Joerg, It seems you have a different view of how keeps work than what I was thinking. Section 4.8 of the spec seems to be the only real description, last paragraph. In your example with blocks a, b and c. If you have a+b together and break after b this means that you have not satisfied

RE: FOP memory usage

2002-08-14 Thread Arved Sandstrom
> -Original Message- > From: Peter B. West [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: August 14, 2002 11:24 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: FOP memory usage > > Joerg, Keiron, et al, > > This is why I have harped on the theme of lookahead. The layout design &

Re: FOP memory usage

2002-08-14 Thread Peter B. West
Joerg, Keiron, et al, This is why I have harped on the theme of lookahead. The layout design simply must accommodate it, and must be able to preserve as much information as possible from the initial layout attempts to minimise the work of subsequent attempts. I have, as I have said before, m

Re: FOP memory usage

2002-08-14 Thread J.Pietschmann
Keiron Liddle wrote: > As far as I know there is never a case where a finished page should be > redone. Once a page is complete that is it. > Those problems should be solved during the layout of a page only and not > considering furture pages. Well, if widows="2" and you've laid out a block and d

Re: FOP memory usage

2002-08-12 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Fri, 2002-08-09 at 19:06, J.Pietschmann wrote: > As for the redesigned code, FOs appear to refer to layout > managers, which in turn refer to areas. Unless it is somewhere > ensured that either areas are properly removed from managers > and/or managers are removed from the FO, the possible earl

FOP memory usage

2002-08-09 Thread J.Pietschmann
Keiron Liddle wrote: > Mark did changes in two areas. > He made it so that once a page is rendered it can be output to the > stream immediately. [...] > The other part that he changed was to do the layout then render after > the end of a page sequence with a bit less coupling between the page > se

RE: FOP memory usage

2001-11-23 Thread Lloyd McKenzie/CanWest/IBM
D]> on 11/23/2001 12:47:49 AM To: Lloyd McKenzie/CanWest/IBM@IBMCA cc: Subject: RE: FOP memory usage Thank you, Lloyd. Of course, I do have sections, and I would not mind to make a page sequence break after each of them. If it were a 300-page document, I would even be willing to make more fi

RE: FOP memory usage

2001-11-22 Thread Matthias Fischer
hat each of those 'sections' of text are within a separate sequence. If not, I'm afraid I don't have the expertise to help :-(. Lloyd "Matthias Fischer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 11/22/2001 09:20:04 AM To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Lloyd McKenzie/CanWest/IB

RE: FOP memory usage

2001-11-22 Thread Lloyd McKenzie/CanWest/IBM
ch of those 'sections' of text are within a separate sequence. If not, I'm afraid I don't have the expertise to help :-(. Lloyd "Matthias Fischer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 11/22/2001 09:20:04 AM To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Lloyd McKenzie/CanWest/IBM@IBMCA S

RE: FOP memory usage

2001-11-22 Thread Matthias Fischer
helps, Lloyd Lloyd McKenzie, P.Eng. I/T Architect, IBM Global Services Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PhoneMail: (780)421-5620 Internal Mail:AZ*K0R*1004 *EDM Matt Savino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 11/09/2001 08:21:53 AM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL

FOP Memory Usage

2001-11-14 Thread Keiron Liddle
Just to give everyone some information about the memory issue. All previous releases of FOP have done the following: - parse the xml file - build an object hierarchy representing the xml - convert these objects into an area tree - render the area tree This means that in memory there is a full o

RE: FOP memory usage

2001-11-12 Thread Branham, Paul
11:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: FOP memory usage On Sat, 2001-11-10 at 06:09, Branham, Paul wrote: > Would it be possible to show a small example of how this is accomplished? > > FOP and SVG are looking to be a good alternative to our current reporting > solution, but

Re: FOP memory usage

2001-11-12 Thread Keiron Liddle
Hi, If you want to help improve the memory usage in a future version of fop I suggest you follow the current cvs developments. This will attempt to address this issue along with a number of other issues. As far as memory is concerned the ideas area: - have the smallest set of variables and objec

RE: FOP memory usage

2001-11-09 Thread Mark
On Sat, 2001-11-10 at 06:09, Branham, Paul wrote: > Would it be possible to show a small example of how this is accomplished? > > FOP and SVG are looking to be a good alternative to our current reporting > solution, but the current difficulty we are having is that I can't print out > large report

Re: FOP memory usage

2001-11-09 Thread Mark
Hey folks I guess I should have said, "no explicit garbage collection was performed". There is a compiled-in debugging option that forces FOP to to a System.gc() before printing the memory stats, but many applications of FOP will be long lived so asynchronous gc is better. So, GC is definitely do

Re: FOP memory usage

2001-11-09 Thread Matt Savino
Friday, November 09, 2001 1:57 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: FOP memory usage > > Indeed, thanks to a recommendation from Mr. Lillywhite to use a > sequence for each of my pages instead of one sequence for all, my > memory footprint for a 500 page report went from 270+ MB to

RE: FOP memory usage

2001-11-09 Thread Maring, Steve
-Original Message- From: David Neumann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 1:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FOP memory usage Indeed, thanks to a recommendation from Mr. Lillywhite to use a sequence for each of my pages instead of one sequence for all, my

RE: FOP memory usage

2001-11-09 Thread Branham, Paul
24/7 Media, Inc. Phone:(301)897-7722 -Original Message- From: David Neumann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 1:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FOP memory usage Indeed, thanks to a recommendation from Mr. Lillywhite to use a sequence for each of my

Re: FOP memory usage

2001-11-09 Thread David Neumann
Services > Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > PhoneMail: (780)421-5620 Internal Mail:AZ*K0R*1004 *EDM > > > Matt Savino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 11/09/2001 08:21:53 AM > > Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > cc: > Subject: Re: FOP

Re: FOP memory usage

2001-11-09 Thread Lloyd McKenzie/CanWest/IBM
] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: FOP memory usage Make sure you're using -hotspot. Try setting the initial and max heap size to 256M if you have it. Turn on verbose garbage collection to see what's happening. Even though it says 'No garbage collection was performed, I&

Re: FOP memory usage

2001-11-09 Thread Matt Savino
Make sure you're using -hotspot. Try setting the initial and max heap size to 256M if you have it. Turn on verbose garbage collection to see what's happening. Even though it says 'No garbage collection was performed, I'm not sure that's accurate (see below). Also sometimes the total memory used is

AW: FOP memory usage

2001-11-09 Thread Beer, Christian
16:08 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: Re: FOP memory usage I also had this problem. To render a fo to pdf (around 100 pages) allocated more then 150 MB. When I got rid of references (in my case page-number-citations) the allocated memory was just 40 MB. Regards, Jens Michail Bikoulis

Re: FOP memory usage

2001-11-09 Thread Jens Kühnberger
> >Regards, > >Mike > >-Original Message- >From: Maring, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: 9. november 2001 15:29 >To: FOP dev list (E-mail) >Subject: FOP memory usage > > >I'm using fop-0.20.1. > >I started with a 650KB XML file that I tr

RE: FOP memory usage

2001-11-09 Thread Michail Bikoulis
with very large XML files. Regards, Mike -Original Message- From: Maring, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 9. november 2001 15:29 To: FOP dev list (E-mail) Subject: FOP memory usage I'm using fop-0.20.1. I started with a 650KB XML file that I transformed into a 4MB XSL:FO fi

FOP memory usage

2001-11-09 Thread Maring, Steve
I'm using fop-0.20.1. I started with a 650KB XML file that I transformed into a 4MB XSL:FO file. Running this file through FOP to generate a PDF used about 90MB of memory. Initial heap size: 807Kb Current heap size: 91637Kb Total memory used: 90829Kb Memory use is indicative; no GC was perform

RE: FOP memory usage

2001-07-03 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Tue, 03 Jul 2001 16:42:47 "Rorvick, Chris" wrote: > I mean O(C) where C is a constant amount of memory. That may be the case for the pdf generation but when FOP needs to deal with reading an xml document, resolving properties, creating an area tree then rendering to the target (which may be p

RE: FOP memory usage

2001-07-03 Thread Rorvick, Chris
I mean O(C) where C is a constant amount of memory. This paragraph, taken from the PDF spec (sec 2.3.5, pg 24) makes me believe it is possible to produce PDFs in (approximately) constant memory: "Because of system limitations and efficiency considerations, it may be desirable or necessary f

Re: FOP memory usage

2001-07-03 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Mon, 02 Jul 2001 20:13:14 "Rorvick, Chris" wrote: > After a few days of using FOP and thumbing through the PDF spec, I've > made > the following observations. It seems that PDFs should be able to be > generated in constant memory, but FOP currently does not work this way. > Are > both of the

FOP memory usage

2001-07-02 Thread Rorvick, Chris
After a few days of using FOP and thumbing through the PDF spec, I've made the following observations. It seems that PDFs should be able to be generated in constant memory, but FOP currently does not work this way. Are both of these statements correct? I determined the second observation by wri