Next Release Schedule

2001-09-27 Thread Arved_37

Hi, all

Keiron announced a code freeze. Pursuant to that, I will be building and posting
a release candidate on Saturday. I figure we should allow 2-3 days for feedback.
A final build of the next 0.20.x FOP would then happen Tuesday or Wednesday.

Regards,
Arved Sandstrom


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RE: Release Schedule

2001-08-10 Thread Patel, Mike

Please don't forget "fop.sh" file also.

Thanks in Advance

Thanks,

Mike

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From: Charlie Wu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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Please include javadoc and the batch files in both the src release and
binary release.. it took me hours to figure out hwo to get fop to work
because i only downloaded the binary release (0.19).. 

thanks

Charlie

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From: Arved Sandstrom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 4:14 PM
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Subject: Release Schedule


Hi, all

I have the 0.18 to 0.19 changes put into the CHANGES file. Please review 
carefully. I am committing the 0.19 to 0.20 changes to that file tomorrow 
evening.

You'll have until Sunday to review the CHANGES file. I'll make final mods to

that file Sunday, immediately prior to building the release. If you've got
an 
issue with credits, please pipe up. :-)

We had quality control problems (my fault) with existence, location and 
condition of DOS batch files in the last release. I promise to be more 
careful with these this time. Can anyone think of anything else that relates

to the suitability and serviceability of the distributions?

I am still (and have been for quite a while) very undecided about whether to

include Javadoc (size considerations). Perhaps in the source distro only? 
Comments?

Regards,
Arved Sandstrom
-- 
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e-plicity (http://www.e-plicity.com)
Halifax, Nova Scotia
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Re: Release Schedule

2001-08-10 Thread Weiqi Gao

Arved Sandstrom wrote:
>
> At 09:46 PM 8/9/01 -0500, Weiqi Gao wrote:
> >
> > This makes sense.  People who are getting the source
> > release can build the Javadocs from the release.
> > People who are getting the binary release can't
> > build the Java docs, so they need the Javadocs bundled
> > in.
>
> Weiqi,
>
> I assume you meant that what makes sense is neither what
> I suggested nor what Charlie suggested, but rather,
> prepared Javadoc with the binary distro, and none with
> the source. I pretty much assume that the complete set
> of batch files will be identical acrosss different
> distros.

Of course this is assuming that the Javadoc is going to be useful for the
customers of the binary distribution.

> I want to make it clear that the Javadoc is not going
> to help someone all that much in figuring out how to
> make FOP run. We are talking about the API docs when I
> say Javadoc, _not_ the regular HTML documentation.

I have to admit that during the past few months of trying to use FOP I have
never looked at the Javadoc.  The HTML documentation has been adequate.
However I'm just one user.  There might be other users whose experience says
otherwise.

When I said "Javadoc in binary distribution", what I had in mind are things
that I can download from Sun's website, like JAXP 1.1, JSSE, JNDI, etc.
They've always included the Javadocs.  But they distribute only the public
API Javadocs (the javax.naming.*, etc., part, not the com.sun.naming.*,
etc., part).  I don't know how FOP can fit into that model.

Maybe when the public API is separated from the implementation details, FOP
can provide Javadocs only for the public API and not the implemenation
details, thus cutting down the size of the distribution.

Until then, go with your instinct.

> Incidentally, none of this is an issue for me. I have a
> fast machine and I have a cable connection. If all
> potential users also have cable or ADSL connections then
> it's a moot point. But they don't, so distro size (I
> would think) is a consideration.

Speaking as one with a 28.8k modem behind an unlimited hours ISP, I don't
really care about the size either.  (I downloaded my GNOME 1.4 as well as
the .NET SDK over the phone line.  It took only a couple of DAYS.)

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Re: Release Schedule

2001-08-10 Thread Arved Sandstrom

At 09:46 PM 8/9/01 -0500, Weiqi Gao wrote:
>Charlie Wu wrote:
>>
>> Please include javadoc and the batch files in both the
>> src release and binary release.. it took me hours to
>> figure out hwo to get fop to work because i only
>> downloaded the binary release (0.19)..
>
>This makes sense.  People who are getting the source release can build the
>Javadocs from the release.  People who are getting the binary release can't
>build the Java docs, so they need the Javadocs bundled in.

Weiqi,

I assume you meant that what makes sense is neither what I suggested nor 
what Charlie suggested, but rather, prepared Javadoc with the binary distro, 
and none with the source. I pretty much assume that the complete set of 
batch files will be identical acrosss different distros.

I want to make it clear that the Javadoc is not going to help someone all 
that much in figuring out how to make FOP run. We are talking about the API 
docs when I say Javadoc, _not_ the regular HTML documentation.

Incidentally, none of this is an issue for me. I have a fast machine and I 
have a cable connection. If all potential users also have cable or ADSL 
connections then it's a moot point. But they don't, so distro size (I would 
think) is a consideration.

Regards,
Arved

Fairly Senior Software Type
e-plicity (http://www.e-plicity.com)
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Re: Release Schedule

2001-08-09 Thread Weiqi Gao

Charlie Wu wrote:
>
> Please include javadoc and the batch files in both the
> src release and binary release.. it took me hours to
> figure out hwo to get fop to work because i only
> downloaded the binary release (0.19)..

This makes sense.  People who are getting the source release can build the
Javadocs from the release.  People who are getting the binary release can't
build the Java docs, so they need the Javadocs bundled in.

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RE: Release Schedule

2001-08-09 Thread Charlie Wu

Please include javadoc and the batch files in both the src release and
binary release.. it took me hours to figure out hwo to get fop to work
because i only downloaded the binary release (0.19).. 

thanks

Charlie

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From: Arved Sandstrom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 4:14 PM
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Subject: Release Schedule


Hi, all

I have the 0.18 to 0.19 changes put into the CHANGES file. Please review 
carefully. I am committing the 0.19 to 0.20 changes to that file tomorrow 
evening.

You'll have until Sunday to review the CHANGES file. I'll make final mods to

that file Sunday, immediately prior to building the release. If you've got
an 
issue with credits, please pipe up. :-)

We had quality control problems (my fault) with existence, location and 
condition of DOS batch files in the last release. I promise to be more 
careful with these this time. Can anyone think of anything else that relates

to the suitability and serviceability of the distributions?

I am still (and have been for quite a while) very undecided about whether to

include Javadoc (size considerations). Perhaps in the source distro only? 
Comments?

Regards,
Arved Sandstrom
-- 
Fairly Senior Software Type
e-plicity (http://www.e-plicity.com)
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Wireless * B2B * J2EE * XML

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Release Schedule

2001-08-09 Thread Arved Sandstrom

Hi, all

I have the 0.18 to 0.19 changes put into the CHANGES file. Please review 
carefully. I am committing the 0.19 to 0.20 changes to that file tomorrow 
evening.

You'll have until Sunday to review the CHANGES file. I'll make final mods to 
that file Sunday, immediately prior to building the release. If you've got an 
issue with credits, please pipe up. :-)

We had quality control problems (my fault) with existence, location and 
condition of DOS batch files in the last release. I promise to be more 
careful with these this time. Can anyone think of anything else that relates 
to the suitability and serviceability of the distributions?

I am still (and have been for quite a while) very undecided about whether to 
include Javadoc (size considerations). Perhaps in the source distro only? 
Comments?

Regards,
Arved Sandstrom
-- 
Fairly Senior Software Type
e-plicity (http://www.e-plicity.com)
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Wireless * B2B * J2EE * XML

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