Re: Missing file mk1logo.tif

2005-11-15 Thread Jeremias Maerki
No, we cannot be sure if there are any legal issues unless we perform a
complete legal audit of the full FOP codebase. We'd have to go through
EVERYTHING. I think that's not in anybody's interest, nor would not
doing this be neglecting our duties. IMO it was a good move to remove
the hyphenation patterns because there we knew (more or less) where the
original files came from and we had license headers indicating an ugly
mix of licenses. The example files are most probably files that were
sent by users, even giro.fo. Jarno Elovirta was on this mailing for some
time, after all. If we found code or things like the hyphenation
patterns that might be a problem from a legal POV, we'd need to go after
it. There's certainly not much harm if we by chance have some example FO
file in our repo that somebody plucked from the net somewhere without
asking and it was before our time here in the project.

As I said, I'd remove the file. I may add a similar demo file in a few
weeks showing a Swiss giro form that I want to do anyway, maybe even as
a XSLT snippet to be used by anyone who wants.

On 15.11.2005 15:15:22 Manuel Mall wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 09:15 pm, Jeremias Maerki wrote:
> > mk1logo.tif seems to never have made it into the repository. Here's
> > the revision when this made it into the repository:
> > http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs?rev=194119&view=rev
> >
> > The whole thing seems to come from here:
> > http://www.elovirta.com/2001/06/28/giro/
> >
> > I can't find any post in the archives that suggests that Jarno
> > Elovirta formally donated his example to the project. I assume he
> > sent it to Arved Sandstrom directly back then. Given that the file
> > would need some touch-up anyway I'd say we simply remove the file. If
> > anyone wants to contact Jarno to clear that up, please do.
> >
> 
> Hmm, this makes me hesitate especially after reading thread 
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-legal-discuss/200511.mbox/browser
> which Jeremias pointed to in another post today.
> 
> None of the examples/fo files have an Apache licence header. As 
> indicated above some of their origins may be clouded and possibly 
> predate the times when legal and licensing issues became a topic of 
> serious concern for the ASF. Can we (or more specifically the PMC 
> members) be sure that there are no legal issues with any of these 
> files? If there is doubt should they be in the repository or even in 
> the planned release?
> 
> > On 15.11.2005 12:16:05 Manuel Mall wrote:
> > > The example fo examples/fo/advanced/giro.fo wants a graphics called
> > > mk1logo.tif. That file doesn't appear to be in svn. Any one come
> > > across that file or has a local copy or knows anything about this?
> > >
> > > Manuel
> >
> > Jeremias Maerki
> 
> Manuel



Jeremias Maerki



Re: Missing file mk1logo.tif

2005-11-15 Thread Manuel Mall
On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 09:15 pm, Jeremias Maerki wrote:
> mk1logo.tif seems to never have made it into the repository. Here's
> the revision when this made it into the repository:
> http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs?rev=194119&view=rev
>
> The whole thing seems to come from here:
> http://www.elovirta.com/2001/06/28/giro/
>
> I can't find any post in the archives that suggests that Jarno
> Elovirta formally donated his example to the project. I assume he
> sent it to Arved Sandstrom directly back then. Given that the file
> would need some touch-up anyway I'd say we simply remove the file. If
> anyone wants to contact Jarno to clear that up, please do.
>

Hmm, this makes me hesitate especially after reading thread 
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-legal-discuss/200511.mbox/browser
which Jeremias pointed to in another post today.

None of the examples/fo files have an Apache licence header. As 
indicated above some of their origins may be clouded and possibly 
predate the times when legal and licensing issues became a topic of 
serious concern for the ASF. Can we (or more specifically the PMC 
members) be sure that there are no legal issues with any of these 
files? If there is doubt should they be in the repository or even in 
the planned release?

> On 15.11.2005 12:16:05 Manuel Mall wrote:
> > The example fo examples/fo/advanced/giro.fo wants a graphics called
> > mk1logo.tif. That file doesn't appear to be in svn. Any one come
> > across that file or has a local copy or knows anything about this?
> >
> > Manuel
>
> Jeremias Maerki

Manuel


Re: Missing file mk1logo.tif

2005-11-15 Thread Jeremias Maerki
mk1logo.tif seems to never have made it into the repository. Here's the
revision when this made it into the repository:
http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs?rev=194119&view=rev

The whole thing seems to come from here:
http://www.elovirta.com/2001/06/28/giro/

I can't find any post in the archives that suggests that Jarno Elovirta
formally donated his example to the project. I assume he sent it to
Arved Sandstrom directly back then. Given that the file would need some
touch-up anyway I'd say we simply remove the file. If anyone wants to
contact Jarno to clear that up, please do.

On 15.11.2005 12:16:05 Manuel Mall wrote:
> The example fo examples/fo/advanced/giro.fo wants a graphics called 
> mk1logo.tif. That file doesn't appear to be in svn. Any one come across 
> that file or has a local copy or knows anything about this?
> 
> Manuel



Jeremias Maerki