RE: FOP in production app

2003-03-11 Thread Hans Kappert
Title: RE: FOP in production app





We are. We're using it to deliver printed offers to the customer, the size of documents are, however, fairly small. No problems so far.

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 Is anyone using FOP in a production app? 
 
 Should I expect a commercial product like XEP or XSLFormatter 
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 Any experiences/comments appreciated.
 
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RE: FOP in production app

2003-03-11 Thread Kielen, Agnes
Hi David,

For one customer we use FOP in a production environment. For another we use
XEP. This choice is made in consultation with our customers with respect to
their requirements and the money they want to spend.

Cheers,
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SV: FOP in production app

2003-03-11 Thread Uwe Klosa
We are using it in production for dynamic pages on the web, for an internal
workflow and for printing of parts of thesis and dissertations.

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Is anyone using FOP in a production app? 

Should I expect a commercial product like XEP or XSLFormatter to be more
robust in a production application?

Any experiences/comments appreciated.

David Holk


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SVG to PDF: CMYK conversion / Can't open PDF in Adobe Illustrator

2003-03-11 Thread Hans Stoessel
Hi

I convert an SVG file into a PDF file using FOP:


//--
 // Save as PDF

//--
  boolean saveAsPDF() {
try {
  Configuration.put(strokeSVGText, Boolean.FALSE);
  // create a JPEG transcoder
  PDFTranscoder t = new PDFTranscoder();
  // set the transcoding hints
  // create the transcoder input
  String s = new File(C:\\Temp\\Chart.svg).toURL().toString();
  TranscoderInput input = new TranscoderInput(s);
  // create the transcoder output
  OutputStream ostream = new FileOutputStream(C:\\Temp\\Chart.pdf);
  TranscoderOutput output = new TranscoderOutput(ostream);
  // save the image
  t.transcode(input, output);
  // flush and close the stream then exit
  ostream.flush();
  ostream.close();
}
catch (FileNotFoundException e) {
return false;
}
catch (IOException e) {
return false;
}
catch (TranscoderException e) {
return false;
}
  return true;
 }

The conversion works fine, but I have 2 problems:

- The SVG file is in RGB colorspace, the PDF should be in CMYK.
How can I convert RGB to CMYK?

- I can open the PDF in Adobe Reader, but not in Adobe Illustrator.
What could be wrong?
Has anybody the same effect?

Thanks for help

Hans




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Re: FOP in production app

2003-03-11 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Lundi, 10 mars 2003, à 18:36 Europe/Zurich, Holk, David A a écrit :
Is anyone using FOP in a production app?
...
Several customers of companies that I'm working with are, daily 
production of small to medium-sized documents (from a few to 250 pages).

Stability is no problem IMHO, you can get good support here (best 
effort though) assuming you're ready to dig in to analyze possible 
problems precisely, and you have to limit your XSL-FO documents to what 
FOP can handle today.

If you keep these concerns in mind, using FOP in production is 
realistic IMHO.

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Re: FOP in production app

2003-03-11 Thread Jochen . Maes

Hi there,


I'm using FOP in production and we render up to 5000 in 1 run (once a
night), another application makes pdf's continuously during the day
(0-1500)
and another application is a webapplication and reders dynamic pdf's
depending on the clients requests.

Non of the machines use more the 85 Meg mem for FOP, although they are all
dynamic, and sometimes 1 pdf goes upt to 50 pages..

depending on how you write your application FOP is stable :-]


this is a succes Story for our company!


greetings

Jochen Maes
ICT Development


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Le Lundi, 10 mars 2003, à 18:36 Europe/Zurich, Holk, David A a écrit :

 Is anyone using FOP in a production app?
 ...

Several customers of companies that I'm working with are, daily
production of small to medium-sized documents (from a few to 250 pages).

Stability is no problem IMHO, you can get good support here (best
effort though) assuming you're ready to dig in to analyze possible
problems precisely, and you have to limit your XSL-FO documents to what
FOP can handle today.

If you keep these concerns in mind, using FOP in production is
realistic IMHO.

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AW: FOP in production app

2003-03-11 Thread Gehrer Helmut
Hello David

We are using FOP in several productive applications in a insurance
environment. 

Mit freundlichen Grüssen
 
Helmut Gehrer
 
Visana Services AG
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 Is anyone using FOP in a production app? 
 
 Should I expect a commercial product like XEP or XSLFormatter 
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 robust in a production application?
 
 Any experiences/comments appreciated.
 
 David Holk
 
 
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AW: AW: left margin different on two printouts...

2003-03-11 Thread Normen Ruhrus
Hi Clay,

Yes, this seems to be the case; FOP does not seem to be the problem.
We changed margins to 1,5cm and voila good print on both printers!
Thank you very much for helping me locating this issue...

Greetings

Normen


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Normen,

Normen Ruhrus wrote:
 I ran under 1.4.1_01 and updated to _02. There was no change... I 
 think there must be some difference in drivers of the two printers, 
 that seem to define additionally to the XSL:FO definition of the 
 margins their own (default) margins. I see that this is not 100% FOP 
 question but perhaps someone in here has some experiences with 
 printing to different printers and can share Knowledge!?
 
 Greetings
 
 Normen

If the problem is related to margin-widths, I would set my outer margin 
(printable-area page margins) generously, and seeing if that makes the 
pages print. You might have one printer whose printable area requires a 
1cm margin, whereas another might require a 1.5cm margin.

HTH

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 Von: Clay Leeds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Normen Ruhrus wrote:
 
Hi there,   i wrote a servlet that supports pdf streaming to a browser
 
 
(works fine) and printing (server side) using the awtrenderer. Problem
 
 
here is, on one printer it looks just fine while on the other one some
 
 
parts are cut off... Well it looks like that its not the font metric
problem. One of the two printers (HP V40) makes a bigger left margin 
than a Samsung laserprinter, while they are using the 100% same
 
 source.
 
Is this a printer driver problem?   Is there an explanation /
 
 workaround
 
??? Hope someone can help me out...   Thanks in advance Normen
 
 
Ruhrus
 
 
 (Much of this message mirrors the previous answer I gave, however 
 there
 is a bit more information below.)
 
 In our testing at my company, we've found that the version of Java 
 being
 
 used may affect the output. In particular, there was a bug in 
 pre-1.4.x
 Sun java that had FontMetrics issues. IBM 1.30 java appears to be 
 unaffected by this bug. As a result, we've indicated to our clients
that
 
 our FOP implementation requires Sun Java 1.4.1+ or IBM Java 1.30+.
 
 If you're having problems, see if you can install one of these JAVA
 upgrades (you shouldn't need to change the server to default to this
new
 
 version to test. Just open a new terminal window, and set $JAVA_HOME 
 to
 that new version of JAVA), and then do more testing. If you find it 
 works, that may be the culprit. However, you'll want to test any other

 applications currently running on your server to make certain nothing 
 breaks with the updated JRE before you implement the change.
 
 HTH!
 


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AW: FOP in production app

2003-03-11 Thread Normen Ruhrus
Hi David,

We are just starting to use FOP for Printing and PDF Streaming issues in

A Data Warehouse application.
Works good, no big stones in our way, yet :-)

Greetings

Normen


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 Is anyone using FOP in a production app?
 
 Should I expect a commercial product like XEP or XSLFormatter
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 Any experiences/comments appreciated.
 
 David Holk
 
 
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Re: SVG to PDF: CMYK conversion / Can't open PDF in Adobe Illustrator

2003-03-11 Thread Jeremias Maerki
Are you working with the PDF transcoder from a released version or from
the trunk in CVS? If the former I suggest you update to the one in CVS
because it's improved and nearing a release. ...and we could use some
testers. :-)

On 11.03.2003 09:20:01 Hans Stoessel wrote:
 I convert an SVG file into a PDF file using FOP:

snip/
 The conversion works fine, but I have 2 problems:
 
 - The SVG file is in RGB colorspace, the PDF should be in CMYK.
 How can I convert RGB to CMYK?

The PDF transcoder contains some code to pass CMYK color to the PDF if
it's specified as CMYK in the SVG. If you can convert your SVGs to CMYK
colorspace you have some (!) chance of sucess.

The PDF transcoder would have to be extended to provide RGB-to-CMYK
conversion functions. As another option: there maybe some PDF tool
around that can do the conversion for you.

 - I can open the PDF in Adobe Reader, but not in Adobe Illustrator.
 What could be wrong?
 Has anybody the same effect?

Don't have Illustrator available. But doing a quick search in the
archives I found this:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10221860971r=1w=2

If it's something like that and you're not using a current version of
FOP you might be able to solve the problem by upgrading because some
errors in this area have been fixed. What version do you use?

ignore xml:lang=de_CH_LUE Gruess vo Lozärner zo Lozärner! :-)/ignore

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Re: AW: left margin different on two printouts...

2003-03-11 Thread Jeremias Maerki
Philip,

(just for completeness) when printing from Acrobat Reader 5, you've got
to take into account the three checkboxes in the print dialog (in
Copies and Adjustments) which can distort your print output by scaling
the PDF (the function is dependant on the printable areas supplied by
the printer drivers). I guess you know that one, but I can't tell from
your mail if you took that into account.

On 10.03.2003 22:58:21 Philip Semanchuk wrote:
 Normen,
 I am using FOP to produce my PDFs and have had the same problem, but I'm
 99% sure it has nothing to do with FOP. My left/right margins are
 specified at exactly 25mm and they appear correct in the PDF. Here are
 my left/right margin results from a few printer tests. I did all my
 printing from Acrobat Reader 5:
 HP Laserjet 5/5M, from Linux with gimp-print driver: 29/27mm
 HP 5SiMX from NT4 (driver == ???): 29/27mm
 Xerox DC460 from NT4 (I think): 25/25mm
 
 As you can see some of these are off by  10% which I find annoying.
 We're trying to squeeze information-rich tables onto our pages and I
 don't like losing 2-3% of my page width to the printer's whims. But I
 think if we want to solve our problem we'll need to a) figure it out
 ourselves or b) take it to a newsgroup like comp.periphs.printers. I
 think FOP is not the culprit.

Jeremias Maerki


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Re: PDF boomarks not created due to location?

2003-03-11 Thread Jeremias Maerki
The outline extension is documented here:
http://xml.apache.org/fop/extensions.html

The original file where this is documented is the file
xml-fop/src/documentation/content/xdocs/extensions.xml
(trunk in CVS).

You're invited to provide a patch. Documentation on the XML format used
for documentation is available at http://xml.apache.org/forrest

On 11.03.2003 00:30:49 Philip Semanchuk wrote:
 Thanks J. I haven't been able to find any information on this. Is it a
 feature? Bug? Documented anywhere? It is easy to work around the problem
 but I want to document this for the programmer who takes over this
 project after me.
 
 Thank you 
 Philip
 
 On Mon, 2003-03-10 at 18:20, J.Pietschmann wrote:
  Philip Semanchuk wrote:
   I have a problem with FOP extension for PDF bookmarks. It seems that FOP
   will not generate bookmarks in the PDF if the fox:outline elements
   come after a page-sequence element.
  
  That's correct: since around 0.20.1 bookmarks are only
  rendered correctly if they preceed the first fo:page-sequence.


Jeremias Maerki

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newbie: testing FOP on an existing document

2003-03-11 Thread Robert P. J. Day

  as a beginner to FOP, i'm testing running it on an 
existing document to see how the PDF output differs from
that produced by passivetex.

  as a testbed, i'm playing with tim waugh's selfdocbookx
document, which has a nice working environment, a sample
docbook document, and a Makefile to produce HTML, FO
or PDF, depending on what you're after (if you're
interested, this tarball is at www.cyberelk.net).

  as a test, i generated the FO file, then produced
the final PDF file both using the standard passivetex
that his Makefile uses, then using the latest version
of FOP.

  as more than one person has already mentioned, FOP
clearly does not handle some of the docbook features
in that example.

  as a learning experience, i'm going to examine what's
going on to see where it's failing and see if there are
ways around that.

  if anyone has far too much time on their hands, 
they're welcome to take a look at the same document
and give me advice on why things aren't being rendered
properly.  i'll be keeping a list. :-)

rday


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Re: SVG to PDF: CMYK conversion / Can't open PDF in Adobe Illustrator

2003-03-11 Thread Hans Stoessel
Hi

Thanks for your answer.

Update in CVS:
...I suggest you update to the one in CVS because it's improved and nearing
a release. ...and we could use some testers. :-)
I have downloaded the latest version and built it. But it doesn't work. The
class org.apache.fop.configuration.Configuration is missing. I removed it
from my code and tried to transcode the SVG to PDF. But in the method
transcode in the class PDFTranscoder the error ClassNotFoundException
occured in URLClassLoader. I suppose a class isn't available. 

CMYK conversion:
The PDF transcoder contains some code to pass CMYK color to the PDF if it's
specified as CMYK in the SVG. If you can convert your SVGs to CMYK
colorspace you have some (!) chance of sucess.
I can't convert my SVg to CMYK because SVg doesn't support CMYK, only RGB.

Can't open PDF in Adobe Illustrator:
But doing a quick search in the archives I found this:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10221860971r=1w=2
I have a look in this group and changed PDFStream.java like discribed. But
it doesn't work.

The PDF transcoder would have to be extended to provide RGB-to-CMYK
conversion functions.
As another option: there maybe some PDF tool around that can do the
conversion for you.
Do you know such a tool? Or a lib for Java?

ignore xml:lang=de_CH_LUVele Dank ond au e Gruess! :-)/ignore

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Re: rendering XML from TIFF

2003-03-11 Thread Oleg Tkachenko
Rick Delpo wrote:
Is there a way to parse elements from TIFF format into XML ?
OCR
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Re: SVG to PDF: CMYK conversion / Can't open PDF in Adobe Illustrator

2003-03-11 Thread Jeremias Maerki

On 11.03.2003 12:05:43 Hans Stoessel wrote:
 Hi
 
 Thanks for your answer.
 
 Update in CVS:
 ...I suggest you update to the one in CVS because it's improved and nearing
 a release. ...and we could use some testers. :-)
 I have downloaded the latest version and built it. But it doesn't work. The
 class org.apache.fop.configuration.Configuration is missing. I removed it
 from my code and tried to transcode the SVG to PDF. But in the method
 transcode in the class PDFTranscoder the error ClassNotFoundException
 occured in URLClassLoader. I suppose a class isn't available. 

Setting the strokeSVGText property is not necessary anymore because the
PDF transcoder decides itself if it can use the PDF TextPainter or if
the text must be stroked because there is some complex transformation.

Can you post a complete stacktrace and maybe a little SVG file that is
failing in your application?

 CMYK conversion:
 The PDF transcoder contains some code to pass CMYK color to the PDF if it's
 specified as CMYK in the SVG. If you can convert your SVGs to CMYK
 colorspace you have some (!) chance of sucess.
 I can't convert my SVg to CMYK because SVg doesn't support CMYK, only RGB.

Learn something new every day. Thanks for pointing this out.

 Can't open PDF in Adobe Illustrator:
 But doing a quick search in the archives I found this:
 http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10221860971r=1w=2
 I have a look in this group and changed PDFStream.java like discribed. But
 it doesn't work.

Can you try to find the smallest SVG example that works with Illustrator
(if that exists) and then add features again (text, lines, shapes...)
until you experience the bug in Illustrator. That should help narrowing
down the problem point. Maybe you could also send the PDF to Adobe
support and ask them to analyze what's wrong with it. That feedback
could also help us to find the problem.

 The PDF transcoder would have to be extended to provide RGB-to-CMYK
 conversion functions.
 As another option: there maybe some PDF tool around that can do the
 conversion for you.
 Do you know such a tool? Or a lib for Java?

Searching for pdf rgb cmyk conversion shows quite a few promising
links. http://www.pdfstore.com/details.asp?ProdID=215, for example.


Jeremias Maerki


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Re: SVG to PDF: CMYK conversion / Can't open PDF in Adobe Illustrator

2003-03-11 Thread Hans Stoessel
Sorry, attachment forgotten...

Hans

Jeremias Maerki [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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 On 11.03.2003 12:05:43 Hans Stoessel wrote:
  Hi
 
  Thanks for your answer.
 
  Update in CVS:
  ...I suggest you update to the one in CVS because it's improved and
nearing
  a release. ...and we could use some testers. :-)
  I have downloaded the latest version and built it. But it doesn't work.
The
  class org.apache.fop.configuration.Configuration is missing. I removed
it
  from my code and tried to transcode the SVG to PDF. But in the method
  transcode in the class PDFTranscoder the error ClassNotFoundException
  occured in URLClassLoader. I suppose a class isn't available.

 Setting the strokeSVGText property is not necessary anymore because the
 PDF transcoder decides itself if it can use the PDF TextPainter or if
 the text must be stroked because there is some complex transformation.

 Can you post a complete stacktrace and maybe a little SVG file that is
 failing in your application?

  CMYK conversion:
  The PDF transcoder contains some code to pass CMYK color to the PDF if
it's
  specified as CMYK in the SVG. If you can convert your SVGs to CMYK
  colorspace you have some (!) chance of sucess.
  I can't convert my SVg to CMYK because SVg doesn't support CMYK, only
RGB.

 Learn something new every day. Thanks for pointing this out.

  Can't open PDF in Adobe Illustrator:
  But doing a quick search in the archives I found this:
  http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10221860971r=1w=2
  I have a look in this group and changed PDFStream.java like discribed.
But
  it doesn't work.

 Can you try to find the smallest SVG example that works with Illustrator
 (if that exists) and then add features again (text, lines, shapes...)
 until you experience the bug in Illustrator. That should help narrowing
 down the problem point. Maybe you could also send the PDF to Adobe
 support and ask them to analyze what's wrong with it. That feedback
 could also help us to find the problem.

  The PDF transcoder would have to be extended to provide RGB-to-CMYK
  conversion functions.
  As another option: there maybe some PDF tool around that can do the
  conversion for you.
  Do you know such a tool? Or a lib for Java?

 Searching for pdf rgb cmyk conversion shows quite a few promising
 links. http://www.pdfstore.com/details.asp?ProdID=215, for example.


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Re: SVG to PDF: CMYK conversion / Can't open PDF in Adobe Illustrator

2003-03-11 Thread Jeremias Maerki
That's easy. See below.

On 11.03.2003 14:31:19 Hans Stoessel wrote:
 In the attachment, you'll find a zipfile who contains the following files:
 
 test.svg - svg file
 chart.pdf - created from test.svg, can't open in illustrator, only in Adobe
 Reader
 fehlermeldung.pdf - error message if I try to open chart.pdf in adobe
 illustrator 10 (mac)
 
 test big.svg - bigger svg file
 
 The problem with the ClassNotFoundException occurs only if I try to convert
 test big.svg. With test.svg it works.
 And here the stacktrace:
 
 Hit Unbehandelte Exception java.lang.ClassNotFoundException
 Hit Unbehandelte Exception java.lang.ClassNotFoundException
 java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/apache/avalon/framework/ValuedEnum

That's a class from avalon-framework.jar. Please put it in your
classpath. This fact will be documented before we make the initial
release of the PDF transcoder.

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Re: SVG to PDF: CMYK conversion / Can't open PDF in Adobe Illustrator

2003-03-11 Thread Hans Stoessel
OK, I can transcode my SVG file now with the new FOP version. The PDF is
much bigger than before, but I can't still open it in Adobe Illustrator.
With the Reader it works.

Hans

Jeremias Maerki [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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 That's easy. See below.

 On 11.03.2003 14:31:19 Hans Stoessel wrote:
  In the attachment, you'll find a zipfile who contains the following
files:
 
  test.svg - svg file
  chart.pdf - created from test.svg, can't open in illustrator, only in
Adobe
  Reader
  fehlermeldung.pdf - error message if I try to open chart.pdf in adobe
  illustrator 10 (mac)
 
  test big.svg - bigger svg file
 
  The problem with the ClassNotFoundException occurs only if I try to
convert
  test big.svg. With test.svg it works.
  And here the stacktrace:
 
  Hit Unbehandelte Exception java.lang.ClassNotFoundException
  Hit Unbehandelte Exception java.lang.ClassNotFoundException
  java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/apache/avalon/framework/ValuedEnum

 That's a class from avalon-framework.jar. Please put it in your
 classpath. This fact will be documented before we make the initial
 release of the PDF transcoder.

 snip/


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Re: SVG to PDF: CMYK conversion / Can't open PDF in Adobe Illustrator

2003-03-11 Thread Hans Stoessel
If I convert the SVG file with the version of FOP, the PDF file is much
bigger (about 5 times). And a font I use (Arial) in the SVG file is changed
in the PDF file. With the version 0.20.5 works this correct. I think I use
the old version for the moment...

One more question:
Can I change the size (widht and height) of the generated PDF file?

Thanks and have a nice evening

Hans


Jeremias Maerki [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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 That's easy. See below.

 On 11.03.2003 14:31:19 Hans Stoessel wrote:
  In the attachment, you'll find a zipfile who contains the following
files:
 
  test.svg - svg file
  chart.pdf - created from test.svg, can't open in illustrator, only in
Adobe
  Reader
  fehlermeldung.pdf - error message if I try to open chart.pdf in adobe
  illustrator 10 (mac)
 
  test big.svg - bigger svg file
 
  The problem with the ClassNotFoundException occurs only if I try to
convert
  test big.svg. With test.svg it works.
  And here the stacktrace:
 
  Hit Unbehandelte Exception java.lang.ClassNotFoundException
  Hit Unbehandelte Exception java.lang.ClassNotFoundException
  java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/apache/avalon/framework/ValuedEnum

 That's a class from avalon-framework.jar. Please put it in your
 classpath. This fact will be documented before we make the initial
 release of the PDF transcoder.

 snip/


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Distribution of FOP - the different jars

2003-03-11 Thread Zmitko, Jan
Hello,

I have a question mentioned the FOP Release 0.20.5. In this distribution are
the following JARS Xerces version 2.2.1, Xalan version 2.4.1 and Batik
version 1.5beta4. and avalon-framework-cvs-20020806.jar the original. In
this JARS, is there only the needed minimum for FOP or contain this JARS the
complete Files as defined in the original. 

Thanks all,

Jan

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conditional include of fluff material

2003-03-11 Thread rhodespc
I have dynamic report, with chapters and pages.  Each Chapter begins a new page.

This is working in FOP.   But if the chapter ends on a page that is more than 
1/2 empty, I want to display some filler material (quotes from famous people, 
images, etc)...

Is there a way to do a conditional include of content, the condition being that 
the page has enough space to fit the content?

I don't want the filler material to generated a new page.  


Thanks!

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Best Image Format for FOP for printing and viewing?

2003-03-11 Thread rhodespc
This is for reports that people can view on-line and to print.  So it's not a 
either view or print situation.  It's like I need the best of both worlds.  I 
need to have print quality and view quality in the same document.

I am trying to get quality images in FOP, but have not been pleased with 
jpeg,png formats.

If I use SVG, the print quality seems better, the on screen display is awful.

What have people been doing to achieve a superior image quality in a PDF 
document with FOP for printing.

Another thought was to try to create my images much bigger, than to scale them 
down to fit in the pdf.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Thank you.  I will share my results on how I achieve this with the group when I 
hit the right answer.

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Re: Best Image Format for FOP for printing and viewing?

2003-03-11 Thread Peter Solberg

SVG is the best for printing It is a vector graphic and will sustain it's quality throughout... However, the source MUST be from a vector based application such as Adobe Illustrator.
SVG's can import other raster images inside of an SVG and are NOT vector based. Therefore you must sustain the vector characteristics of the image throughout the rendering process
Pete

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Subject: Best Image Format for FOP for printing and viewing? 
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 12:31:40 -0500 (EST) 
 
This is for reports that people can view on-line and to print. So it's not a 
either "view or print" situation. It's like I need the best of both worlds. I 
need to have print quality and view quality in the same document. 
 
I am trying to get quality images in FOP, but have not been pleased with 
jpeg,png formats. 
 
If I use SVG, the print quality seems better, the on screen display is awful. 
 
What have people been doing to achieve a superior image quality in a PDF 
document with FOP for printing. 
 
Another thought was to try to create my images much bigger, than to scale them 
down to fit in the pdf. 
 
Any thoughts would be appreciated. 
 
Thank you. I will share my results on how I achieve this with the group when I 
hit the right answer. 
 
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Question about Word character encoding.

2003-03-11 Thread s-oualid
Hi,

I have a little query : I am looking for a table with the hexadecimal code 
for the MS Word specific characters (eg: ... or the ' character).

I am coding a java class that will clean the Word input to avoid FOP to 
render specific character as #.

eg :

if (c == 0x85) {
  stBuffer.append(...);
} else {
  stBuffer.append(c);
}

I looked over the web using google and didn't find it ... I began the work 
with an hexadecimal editor, but a such table would be really usefull ! =)

The best would be a existing class, but I don't think it exists yet. If 
someone need a such class, I'll send mine here once I will have finished 
to code it.

Thanks,

Simon

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RE: FOP in production app

2003-03-11 Thread s-oualid
Hi !

We are using fop 0.20.5 in client/server app (300 users, calls are 
synchronised) and in our websites (servlet embedded, synchronised too) running 
on tomcat 3.23 app server. We only use FOP for generating PDF dynamic catalogs 
(example here http://www.tatouage.fr/temp/fop_user_example.pdf).

We just got some out of memory problem on the biggest document with lot of 
images, but we ran out of it by adding some memory to the serv, and we recently 
decided to use a dedicated server for fo rendering.

I never used XEP or other concurrent, so I can't tell you about that. But we 
are really happy with FOP and never got any problem with it in production app.

Cheers,

Simon

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 Sent: maandag 10 maart 2003 18:37
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: FOP in production app
 
 
 Is anyone using FOP in a production app? 
 
 Should I expect a commercial product like XEP or XSLFormatter 
 to be more
 robust in a production application?
 
 Any experiences/comments appreciated.
 
 David Holk
 

Re: Distribution of FOP - the different jars

2003-03-11 Thread J.Pietschmann
Zmitko, Jan wrote:
I have a question mentioned the FOP Release 0.20.5. In this distribution are
the following JARS Xerces version 2.2.1, Xalan version 2.4.1 and Batik
version 1.5beta4. and avalon-framework-cvs-20020806.jar the original. In
this JARS, is there only the needed minimum for FOP or contain this JARS the
complete Files as defined in the original. 
AFAIK these jars are unmodified from either a binary distribution
or from an unmodified source compile. OTOH the ant.jar has the style
task added.
J.Pietschmann
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Re: conditional include of fluff material

2003-03-11 Thread J.Pietschmann
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is working in FOP.   But if the chapter ends on a page that is more than 
1/2 empty, I want to display some filler material (quotes from famous people, 
images, etc)...

Is there a way to do a conditional include of content, the condition being that 
the page has enough space to fit the content?
Check the spec:
 http://www.w3.org/TR/xsl/
Let me know if you find something interesting...
The other usual answers:
1. Try to estimate whether there will be space left while doing XSLT
and add the fluff there.
2. Try tricks with markers and/or footnotes. The latter might actually
work due to a bug in FOP (footnotes at the end of a page sequences are
discarded if they don't fit on the last page).
J.Pietschmann

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Re: PDF boomarks not created due to location?

2003-03-11 Thread Philip Semanchuk
Thank you very much Jeremias. The documentation that I have not been
able to find is something that states whether this feature is WAD
(working as designed) or if it is just a known quirk/bug. If patches are
welcome then I guess it is the latter. =)

Thanks again
Philip

On Tue, 2003-03-11 at 04:43, Jeremias Maerki wrote:
 The outline extension is documented here:
 http://xml.apache.org/fop/extensions.html
 
 The original file where this is documented is the file
 xml-fop/src/documentation/content/xdocs/extensions.xml
 (trunk in CVS).
 
 You're invited to provide a patch. Documentation on the XML format used
 for documentation is available at http://xml.apache.org/forrest
 
 On 11.03.2003 00:30:49 Philip Semanchuk wrote:
  Thanks J. I haven't been able to find any information on this. Is it a
  feature? Bug? Documented anywhere? It is easy to work around the problem
  but I want to document this for the programmer who takes over this
  project after me.
  
  Thank you 
  Philip
  
  On Mon, 2003-03-10 at 18:20, J.Pietschmann wrote:
   Philip Semanchuk wrote:
I have a problem with FOP extension for PDF bookmarks. It seems that FOP
will not generate bookmarks in the PDF if the fox:outline elements
come after a page-sequence element.
   
   That's correct: since around 0.20.1 bookmarks are only
   rendered correctly if they preceed the first fo:page-sequence.
 
 
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Re: AW: left margin different on two printouts...

2003-03-11 Thread Philip Semanchuk
I had not taken that into account and that was indeed the problem.
That's two problems you've fixed for me today, Jeremias! Any chance you
want to make it three and fix this file I/O bug I've got in my Java
code? =)

If you want to email me your SnailMail address, I'll send you a
thank-you postcard.

P

On Tue, 2003-03-11 at 04:36, Jeremias Maerki wrote:
 Philip,
 
 (just for completeness) when printing from Acrobat Reader 5, you've got
 to take into account the three checkboxes in the print dialog (in
 Copies and Adjustments) which can distort your print output by scaling
 the PDF (the function is dependant on the printable areas supplied by
 the printer drivers). I guess you know that one, but I can't tell from
 your mail if you took that into account.
 
 On 10.03.2003 22:58:21 Philip Semanchuk wrote:
  Normen,
  I am using FOP to produce my PDFs and have had the same problem, but I'm
  99% sure it has nothing to do with FOP. My left/right margins are
  specified at exactly 25mm and they appear correct in the PDF. Here are
  my left/right margin results from a few printer tests. I did all my
  printing from Acrobat Reader 5:
  HP Laserjet 5/5M, from Linux with gimp-print driver: 29/27mm
  HP 5SiMX from NT4 (driver == ???): 29/27mm
  Xerox DC460 from NT4 (I think): 25/25mm
  
  As you can see some of these are off by  10% which I find annoying.
  We're trying to squeeze information-rich tables onto our pages and I
  don't like losing 2-3% of my page width to the printer's whims. But I
  think if we want to solve our problem we'll need to a) figure it out
  ourselves or b) take it to a newsgroup like comp.periphs.printers. I
  think FOP is not the culprit.
 
 Jeremias Maerki
 
 
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can FOP generate .fo from the original XML?

2003-03-11 Thread Robert P. J. Day

  from its command-line options, it appears that FOP
can take the original XML and XSL and go straight to
PDF.  can i have it just generate the .fo file instead?

  as far as i can see, the -fo option is strictly
for referring to the .fo input file.  is this
correct?

rday


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embedded svg with blank anchor elements causes NullPointerException in 1.0Dev

2003-03-11 Thread Krautbauer, Bruce
Hi,

The following document processes without error with 0.20.5rc2 but causes a 
java.lang.NullPointerException with 1.0Dev.  I narrowed it down to the fact 
that the a has 'null' content.  Should I submit a bug or is this bad XSL:FO?

Thanks,
Bruce

?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8 ?
fo:root xmlns:fo=http://www.w3.org/1999/XSL/Format;
fo:layout-master-set
fo:simple-page-master master-name=simple page-height=12cm 
page-width=20cm margin-top=.5cm margin-bottom=.5cm margin-left=.5cm 
margin-right=.5cm
fo:region-body margin-top=.5cm /
fo:region-before extent=.5cm /
fo:region-after extent=.5cm /
/fo:simple-page-master
/fo:layout-master-set
fo:page-sequence master-reference=simple
fo:flow flow-name=xsl-region-body
fo:block font-size=12pt font-family=sans-serif 
line-height=15pt space-after.optimum=3pt text-align=justify
Embedded SVG
fo:instream-foreign-object
svg xmlns=http://www.w3.org/2000/svg; 
width=20 height=20
a
g
/g
/a
/svg
/fo:instream-foreign-object
/fo:block
/fo:flow
/fo:page-sequence
/fo:root




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