AW: Viewing PDF without AcrobatReader or FOP??

2002-11-18 Thread Müller, Markus
Hi Oleg,

when viewing PDFs with embedded fonts, you will see differences between the
platform specific and the Java version of AcrobatReader. The Java-version
does some ugly character spacing, embedded fonts are not displayed properly.
That's really not a *good* thing. And the fact that it has not been updated
since 1998 shows, that adobe is not interested in providing a real solution
for java.

Markus

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# Von: Oleg Tkachenko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
# Gesendet am: Samstag, 16. November 2002 18:41
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# Müller, Markus wrote:
# 
#  we're just testing FOP to generate PDF on a host, then 
# sending the PDF
#  document in a way we don't know yet to some clients. The 
# clients should be
#  able to view (and perhaps to print) the document. Is this 
# possible without
#  AcrobatReader? The AcroRead for Java is not really a good thing,
# btw, what's wrong with it? I've been told it's ok despite the 
# fact that 
# it was not updated long time.
# 
#   and using
#  FOP only to display a file isn't a solution, too (since 
# it's too large). Has
#  anybody a little hint?
# If wanna high-quality pdf preview, I believe using Acrobat is 
# the only 
# way. Surely client must have Acrobat Reader installed, but 
# it's free and 
# absence of it can be detected in javascript.
# 
# -- 
# Oleg Tkachenko
# eXperanto team
# Multiconn Technologies, Israel
# 


Re: AW: Viewing PDF without AcrobatReader or FOP??

2002-11-18 Thread Oleg Tkachenko
Müller, Markus wrote:
when viewing PDFs with embedded fonts, you will see differences between the
platform specific and the Java version of AcrobatReader. The Java-version
does some ugly character spacing, embedded fonts are not displayed properly.
That's really not a *good* thing. And the fact that it has not been updated
since 1998 shows, that adobe is not interested in providing a real solution
for java.
I see. btw, problems sound familiar, we have the same ones with AWT Viewer.
--
Oleg Tkachenko
eXperanto team
Multiconn Technologies, Israel


Re: AW: Viewing PDF without AcrobatReader or FOP??

2002-11-16 Thread Oleg Tkachenko
Müller, Markus wrote:
Nice idea, but the size of a TIFF is much greater than the PDF. 
Not necessarily true, TIFF format has many compression schemas. Loot at 
my TIFFRenderer demo[1] for example. But TIFF also requires browser 
plugin so no advantage here.

[1] http://www.tkachenko.com/fop/TIFFRendererDemo
--
Oleg Tkachenko
eXperanto team
Multiconn Technologies, Israel


Viewing PDF without AcrobatReader or FOP??

2002-11-15 Thread Müller, Markus
Hi there,

we're just testing FOP to generate PDF on a host, then sending the PDF
document in a way we don't know yet to some clients. The clients should be
able to view (and perhaps to print) the document. Is this possible without
AcrobatReader? The AcroRead for Java is not really a good thing, and using
FOP only to display a file isn't a solution, too (since it's too large). Has
anybody a little hint?

Markus


Re: Viewing PDF without AcrobatReader or FOP??

2002-11-15 Thread Jeremias Maerki
Hmm, what about converting the PDF to a TIFF (or similar) on the server
and sending that to the client? Can be accomplished with GhostScript,
for example.

On Fri, 15 Nov 2002 09:55:04 +0100 Müller, Markus wrote:
 Hi there,
 
 we're just testing FOP to generate PDF on a host, then sending the PDF
 document in a way we don't know yet to some clients. The clients should be
 able to view (and perhaps to print) the document. Is this possible without
 AcrobatReader? The AcroRead for Java is not really a good thing, and using
 FOP only to display a file isn't a solution, too (since it's too large). Has
 anybody a little hint?
 
 Markus


Jeremias Maerki



RE: Viewing PDF without AcrobatReader or FOP??

2002-11-15 Thread Victor Mote
Markus Müller wrote:

 we're just testing FOP to generate PDF on a host, then sending the PDF
 document in a way we don't know yet to some clients. The clients should be
 able to view (and perhaps to print) the document. Is this possible without
 AcrobatReader? The AcroRead for Java is not really a good thing, and using
 FOP only to display a file isn't a solution, too (since it's too
 large). Has
 anybody a little hint?

Obviously you can always write your own viewer and there are other PDF
viewers available, but it will be difficult to answer your question unless
you can tell us what shortcoming in Acrobat Reader you are trying to
overcome.

Victor Mote