Re: Em Space - UTF8
the problem only appears when it's the first element of a new line. I tried 2 different methods to get the effect and both fail with fop. fo:inline space-start=10pt/fo:inline fo:inline font-size=10pt#8195;/fo:inline Note that this works in Antenna House XSLFormatter. I need this for my workaround for line indenting, because I want to indent lines after a xml node called absatz /. Olli 2007/1/6, Manuel Mall [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Saturday 06 January 2007 23:15, Oliver Müller wrote: Hi, I'm using 0.92 beta and font Minion. The problem is: I have an inline element with no other content then the Em Space #8195; in this case it's not displayed. If I put a letter before the space it works. Olli, interesting - I can reproduce your problem. Seems fop 0.92beta treats these spaces as removable at the start/end of a line. Same issue exists in the upcoming fop 0.93 release. Can you confirm that the problem only appears if the inline with the single Em Space is the first or last element in a line? A more recent change to fop (Unicode compliant linebreaking) appears to have fixed the problem. Unfortunately I don't have a workaround for you. Manuel Olli 2007/1/6, Manuel Mall [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Saturday 06 January 2007 03:29, Oliver Müller wrote: Hi, does anyone's got an idea why the Em Space #8195; is not displayed in a pdf generated with FOP ? http://unicode.e-workers.de/unicode3.php Oliver, you didn't state the version of fop you have the problem with nor the font you are using. I just tested this with the latest fop version and all the spaces (#x2000; to #x200b;) display fine using the PDF default fonts. Manuel --- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Em Space - UTF8
Oliver Müller a écrit : the problem only appears when it's the first element of a new line. I tried 2 different methods to get the effect and both fail with fop. fo:inline space-start=10pt/fo:inline fo:inline font-size=10pt#8195;/fo:inline Note that this works in Antenna House XSLFormatter. I need this for my workaround for line indenting, because I want to indent lines after a xml node called absatz /. Why can't you use the text-indent property? Vincent - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Em Space - UTF8
Oliver Müller wrote: the problem only appears when it's the first element of a new line. I tried 2 different methods to get the effect and both fail with fop. fo:inline space-start=10pt/fo:inline fo:inline font-size=10pt#8195;/fo:inline Note that this works in Antenna House XSLFormatter. I need this for my workaround for line indenting, because I want to indent lines after a xml node called absatz /. I can hardly believe you need a workaround for spacing text, the last time I saw that it was really needed was in the HTML 2.0 time, where tables were not yet a part of the standard. However, if you must use spaces and cannot use text-indent or the like, consider a workaround with either: #x200C; -- Zero Width Non-Joiner #x200D; -- Zero Width Joiner #x200E; -- Left-To-Right-Mark #x200F; -- Right-To-Left-Mark For example, you could try this: EM SPACE -- ZWJ -- HAIR SPACE But if that is still truncated down to nothing (as spaces appear to be stripped), you can try holding it into two characters that are not spaces, like this: LRM -- EM SPACE -- LRM (or if your text is supposed to be right-to-left, replace that with RLM) (look here for possible candidates that are better suited than a character that actually has a function: http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/category/Cf/list.htm) But, these seem to me like terrible workarounds: not all fonts support them, you should, in any case, use an indentation method or try to apply one, and spacing characters are not defined to be of equal width amongst fonts, leaving you with unequal indentation when you try to apply this techniques with other fonts. Cheers, -- Abel Braaksma http://www.nuntia.nl - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Em Space - UTF8
Maybe I don't got any other solution because I'm quite new to XSL-FO ... I would really love to use text-indent, but in my case I don't see a chance to do so. This is due to the fact that text-indent only works with fo:block. my XML doc looks like.. Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit absatz / Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit absatz / Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit there shall be a linebreak and text-indent after every occur of absatz /. I found no possibility to apply a new fo:block to all of the text before and after absatz /. Thats why I'm using fo:block /fo:inline font-size=10pt#8195;/fo:inline to get my linebreak and indent. If any of you got a better idea I would love to hear it. Olli 2007/1/7, Abel Braaksma [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Oliver Müller wrote: the problem only appears when it's the first element of a new line. I tried 2 different methods to get the effect and both fail with fop. fo:inline space-start=10pt/fo:inline fo:inline font-size=10pt#8195;/fo:inline Note that this works in Antenna House XSLFormatter. I need this for my workaround for line indenting, because I want to indent lines after a xml node called absatz /. I can hardly believe you need a workaround for spacing text, the last time I saw that it was really needed was in the HTML 2.0 time, where tables were not yet a part of the standard. However, if you must use spaces and cannot use text-indent or the like, consider a workaround with either: #x200C; -- Zero Width Non-Joiner #x200D; -- Zero Width Joiner #x200E; -- Left-To-Right-Mark #x200F; -- Right-To-Left-Mark For example, you could try this: EM SPACE -- ZWJ -- HAIR SPACE But if that is still truncated down to nothing (as spaces appear to be stripped), you can try holding it into two characters that are not spaces, like this: LRM -- EM SPACE -- LRM (or if your text is supposed to be right-to-left, replace that with RLM) (look here for possible candidates that are better suited than a character that actually has a function: http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/category/Cf/list.htm) But, these seem to me like terrible workarounds: not all fonts support them, you should, in any case, use an indentation method or try to apply one, and spacing characters are not defined to be of equal width amongst fonts, leaving you with unequal indentation when you try to apply this techniques with other fonts. Cheers, -- Abel Braaksma http://www.nuntia.nl - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FOP Bridge available for FOP 0.93
On Sat, Jan 06, 2007 at 05:39:53PM -0500, Amin Ahmad wrote: Hello FOP and Eclipse Users, I have updated the FOP Bridge plugin for Eclipse to support FOP 0.93. For those who are not familiar, the plugin allows you to transform XSL FO documents from within eclipse with a simple right-click. You can download it from http://www.ahmadsoft.org/fopbridge.html or you can use the update site located at http://www.ahmadsoft.org/update/. Great, and very speedy. Simon -- Simon Pepping home page: http://www.leverkruid.eu - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Em Space - UTF8
On Monday 08 January 2007 02:21, Oliver Müller wrote: Maybe I don't got any other solution because I'm quite new to XSL-FO ... I would really love to use text-indent, but in my case I don't see a chance to do so. This is due to the fact that text-indent only works with fo:block. my XML doc looks like.. Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit absatz / Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit absatz / Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit there shall be a linebreak and text-indent after every occur of absatz /. I found no possibility to apply a new fo:block to all of the text before and after absatz /. Thats why I'm using fo:block /fo:inline font-size=10pt#8195;/fo:inline to get my linebreak and indent. If any of you got a better idea I would love to hear it. Olli, while I am sure there are XSLT solutions which would allow to generate a block per absatz / why don't you simply use one or more non breaking spaces (#160;)? Manuel Olli 2007/1/7, Abel Braaksma [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Oliver Müller wrote: the problem only appears when it's the first element of a new line. I tried 2 different methods to get the effect and both fail with fop. fo:inline space-start=10pt/fo:inline fo:inline font-size=10pt#8195;/fo:inline Note that this works in Antenna House XSLFormatter. I need this for my workaround for line indenting, because I want to indent lines after a xml node called absatz /. I can hardly believe you need a workaround for spacing text, the last time I saw that it was really needed was in the HTML 2.0 time, where tables were not yet a part of the standard. However, if you must use spaces and cannot use text-indent or the like, consider a workaround with either: #x200C; -- Zero Width Non-Joiner #x200D; -- Zero Width Joiner #x200E; -- Left-To-Right-Mark #x200F; -- Right-To-Left-Mark For example, you could try this: EM SPACE -- ZWJ -- HAIR SPACE But if that is still truncated down to nothing (as spaces appear to be stripped), you can try holding it into two characters that are not spaces, like this: LRM -- EM SPACE -- LRM (or if your text is supposed to be right-to-left, replace that with RLM) (look here for possible candidates that are better suited than a character that actually has a function: http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/category/Cf/list.htm) But, these seem to me like terrible workarounds: not all fonts support them, you should, in any case, use an indentation method or try to apply one, and spacing characters are not defined to be of equal width amongst fonts, leaving you with unequal indentation when you try to apply this techniques with other fonts. Cheers, -- Abel Braaksma http://www.nuntia.nl --- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Em Space - UTF8
I could do so if I knew how the size of a non breaking space is calculated. cheers, olli 2007/1/7, Manuel Mall [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Monday 08 January 2007 02:21, Oliver Müller wrote: Maybe I don't got any other solution because I'm quite new to XSL-FO ... I would really love to use text-indent, but in my case I don't see a chance to do so. This is due to the fact that text-indent only works with fo:block. my XML doc looks like.. Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit absatz / Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit absatz / Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit there shall be a linebreak and text-indent after every occur of absatz /. I found no possibility to apply a new fo:block to all of the text before and after absatz /. Thats why I'm using fo:block /fo:inline font-size=10pt#8195;/fo:inline to get my linebreak and indent. If any of you got a better idea I would love to hear it. Olli, while I am sure there are XSLT solutions which would allow to generate a block per absatz / why don't you simply use one or more non breaking spaces (#160;)? Manuel Olli 2007/1/7, Abel Braaksma [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Oliver Müller wrote: the problem only appears when it's the first element of a new line. I tried 2 different methods to get the effect and both fail with fop. fo:inline space-start=10pt/fo:inline fo:inline font-size=10pt#8195;/fo:inline Note that this works in Antenna House XSLFormatter. I need this for my workaround for line indenting, because I want to indent lines after a xml node called absatz /. I can hardly believe you need a workaround for spacing text, the last time I saw that it was really needed was in the HTML 2.0 time, where tables were not yet a part of the standard. However, if you must use spaces and cannot use text-indent or the like, consider a workaround with either: #x200C; -- Zero Width Non-Joiner #x200D; -- Zero Width Joiner #x200E; -- Left-To-Right-Mark #x200F; -- Right-To-Left-Mark For example, you could try this: EM SPACE -- ZWJ -- HAIR SPACE But if that is still truncated down to nothing (as spaces appear to be stripped), you can try holding it into two characters that are not spaces, like this: LRM -- EM SPACE -- LRM (or if your text is supposed to be right-to-left, replace that with RLM) (look here for possible candidates that are better suited than a character that actually has a function: http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/category/Cf/list.htm) But, these seem to me like terrible workarounds: not all fonts support them, you should, in any case, use an indentation method or try to apply one, and spacing characters are not defined to be of equal width amongst fonts, leaving you with unequal indentation when you try to apply this techniques with other fonts. Cheers, -- Abel Braaksma http://www.nuntia.nl --- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Em Space - UTF8
On Monday 08 January 2007 07:51, Oliver Müller wrote:
I could do so if I knew how the size of a non breaking space is
calculated.
With respect to size a non breaking space behaves the same as a normal
space I believe.
Manuel
cheers,
olli
2007/1/7, Manuel Mall [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Monday 08 January 2007 02:21, Oliver Müller wrote:
Maybe I don't got any other solution because I'm quite new to
XSL-FO ... I would really love to use text-indent, but in my case
I don't see a chance to do so.
This is due to the fact that text-indent only works with
fo:block.
my XML doc looks like..
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit
absatz /
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit
absatz /
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit
there shall be a linebreak and text-indent after every occur of
absatz /. I found no possibility to apply a new fo:block to all
of the text before and after
absatz /.
Thats why I'm using fo:block /fo:inline
font-size=10pt#8195;/fo:inline to get my linebreak and
indent.
If any of you got a better idea I would love to hear it.
Olli,
while I am sure there are XSLT solutions which would allow to
generate a block per absatz / why don't you simply use one or
more non breaking spaces (#160;)?
Manuel
Olli
2007/1/7, Abel Braaksma [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Oliver Müller wrote:
the problem only appears when it's the first element of a new
line. I tried 2 different methods to get the effect and both
fail with fop.
fo:inline space-start=10pt/fo:inline
fo:inline font-size=10pt#8195;/fo:inline
Note that this works in Antenna House XSLFormatter.
I need this for my workaround for line indenting, because I
want to indent lines after a xml node called absatz /.
I can hardly believe you need a workaround for spacing text,
the last time I saw that it was really needed was in the HTML
2.0 time, where tables were not yet a part of the standard.
However, if you must use spaces and cannot use text-indent or
the like, consider a workaround with either:
#x200C; -- Zero Width Non-Joiner
#x200D; -- Zero Width Joiner
#x200E; -- Left-To-Right-Mark
#x200F; -- Right-To-Left-Mark
For example, you could try this:
EM SPACE -- ZWJ -- HAIR SPACE
But if that is still truncated down to nothing (as spaces
appear to be stripped), you can try holding it into two
characters that are not spaces, like this:
LRM -- EM SPACE -- LRM
(or if your text is supposed to be right-to-left, replace that
with RLM) (look here for possible candidates that are better
suited than a character that actually has a function:
http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/category/Cf/list.htm)
But, these seem to me like terrible workarounds: not all fonts
support them, you should, in any case, use an indentation
method or try to apply one, and spacing characters are not
defined to be of equal width amongst fonts, leaving you with
unequal indentation when you try to apply this techniques with
other fonts.
Cheers,
-- Abel Braaksma
http://www.nuntia.nl
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