Re: Central European characters in PDF with Base14 fonts
I solved the problem last year and just described the solution: http://tv.com.pl/stepbystep/fop_pdf/ National characters in PDF base fonts using Apache™ FOP -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Central-European-characters-in-PDF-with-Base14-fonts-tp31910912p33544793.html Sent from the FOP - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: fop-users-unsubscr...@xmlgraphics.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: fop-users-h...@xmlgraphics.apache.org
Re: Central European characters in PDF with Base14 fonts
you say in your document: Regular PDF file does not support such extra characters in basic fonts and - according to common opinion - it's necessary to use embedded True type fonts. This will add extra 300KB to final PDF document. is the 300KB number just a guess or have you verified it? the use of embedded font does not, in general, include glyphs for all characters supported by a given font, but only those used in the document; in any case, i agree that FOP should attempt to support additional non-ASCII national characters in the Base14 fonts; i have a two comments and a question on your submission: (1) you use tabs in your changes to source materials (e.g., the Helvetica*.xml files); these need to be replaced with SPACE characters only; (2) to make this change only for Helvetica is sub-optimal, and will cause interoperability problems, so all of the Base14 fonts should be modified at the same time; (3) does your changes to the font files include kerning data updates? if not, then it probably should regards, glenn On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Tomasz Judycki tjudy...@tv.com.pl wrote: I solved the problem last year and just described the solution: http://tv.com.pl/stepbystep/fop_pdf/ National characters in PDF base fonts using Apache™ FOP -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Central-European-characters-in-PDF-with-Base14-fonts-tp31910912p33544793.html Sent from the FOP - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: fop-users-unsubscr...@xmlgraphics.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: fop-users-h...@xmlgraphics.apache.org
Re: Central European characters in PDF with Base14 fonts
W dniu 2012-03-27 21:41, Glenn Adams pisze: you say in your document: Regular PDF file does not support such extra characters in basic fonts and - according to common opinion - it's necessary to use embedded True type fonts. This will add extra 300KB to final PDF document. is the 300KB number just a guess or have you verified it? Well, it's not exact number because final size depends on the size of used fonts. However look here http://www.aivosto.com/vbtips/pdf-optimize.html - at the bottom of this article there is an example of pdf with and without embedded font, the difference is 6 kB versus 273 kB. the use of embedded font does not, in general, include glyphs for all characters supported by a given font, but only those used in the document; That's right, but - as I mentioned in my article - in several countries in central Europe we use regular Latin alphabet enhanced with some extra characters, so it's not possible to use Base14 font for most of the text and mix it with a few additional characters from another font, because it will not look good. It would look like mixing characters from Arial and Times New Roman. Hence most of embedded font will be always used. i have a two comments and a question on your submission: (1) you use tabs in your changes to source materials (e.g., the Helvetica*.xml files); these need to be replaced with SPACE characters only; I didn't noticed that, I'm not the author of that changes. Does it make any difference? It's just xml. (2) to make this change only for Helvetica is sub-optimal, and will cause interoperability problems, so all of the Base14 fonts should be modified at the same time; That's right. This is just a part of final solution. By the way - I'm not sure if this mechanism works with all Base14 fonts. I used to have problems with Courier several years ago when I implemented that solution in another technology. (3) does your changes to the font files include kerning data updates? if not, then it probably should It's hard coded in PDFFactory.java. I'm ashamed of that but due to my limited time I was not able to find a better way to do it. Regards, Tomasz Judycki Textus Virtualis Al. Wilanowska 313 02-665 Warszawa tel/fax (48 22) 879 82 00 http://www.tv.com.pl - To unsubscribe, e-mail: fop-users-unsubscr...@xmlgraphics.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: fop-users-h...@xmlgraphics.apache.org
Re: Central European characters in PDF with Base14 fonts
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Tomasz Judycki tjudy...@tv.com.pl wrote: ** W dniu 2012-03-27 21:41, Glenn Adams pisze: (1) you use tabs in your changes to source materials (e.g., the Helvetica*.xml files); these need to be replaced with SPACE characters only; I didn't noticed that, I'm not the author of that changes. Does it make any difference? It's just xml. it is a convention followed in FOP source materials
Re: Central European characters in PDF with Base14 fonts
Hi Tomasz FOP currently hardcodes the base14 fonts as Java classes and in single-byte, single-encoding mode. That means (except for Symbol and ZapfDingbats) WinAnsiEncoding only. So currently, there is no possibility to get CE characters out of the box, because FOP doesn't have the character metrics for these additional characters. PDF 1.4 defines the set of Base 14 fonts and mentions that the corresponding AFM metrics files can be downloaded from Adobe's website. That also implies that all characters found in the AFM files are to be considered available. As you've seen above, FOP only supports a subset of that at the moment. What you can do at this time is just configure the base 14 fonts in userconfig.xml to override FOP's built-in set: Download the base 14 AFM set from here: http://www.adobe.com/devnet/font.html http://wwwimages.adobe.com/www.adobe.com/content/dam/Adobe/en/devnet/font/pdfs/Core14_AFMs.zip Put all the AFMs in a directory. Repeat the following for every base 14 font that you need: font embed-url=file:///D:/Install/Fonts/Adobe Base 14 AFM/Helvetica.pfb font-triplet name=Helvetica style=normal weight=normal/ font-triplet name=sans-serif style=normal weight=normal/ font-triplet name=any style=normal weight=normal/ /font Obviously, you have to adjust the file URL and change font-triplets as necessary. And you'll note my use of the .pfb file (tha actual font program) which is not in the ZIP downloaded from Adobe. That doesn't matter. FOP derives the .afm file from the .pfb filename. The final clue is not to embed the font by adding: fonts !-- that's the general fonts section, not the format-specific one! -- referenced-fonts match font-family=Helvetica/ /referenced-fonts /fonts See http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/fop/1.0/fonts.html#embedding That should give you what you're looking for. On 23.06.2011 23:42:33 Tomasz Judycki wrote: Mehdi, May be I don't understand details in PDF technology - I'm not an expert in this area. It seems to me that my example of PDF file use WinAnsi encoding for base 14 fonts. Look inside, at font definitions: /Type /Font /Subtype /Type1 /Name /BF5 /Encoding 4 0 R /BaseFont /Helvetica Encoding is defined in 4 0 R, I've quoted it already: 4 0 obj /Type /Encoding /BaseEncoding /WinAnsiEncoding /Differences [ 143 /Zacute 159 /zacute Isn't in Base14 font in WinAnsi encoding? And still some extra characters - defined by glyph names - are displayed properly. I don't want FOP to support other encodings in Base14 fonts - I'm not sure if it's possible according to PDF format. I just want to add that /Differences - this mechanism is supported in PDFEncoding.java but that's for embedded fonts only, I believe. If you know perfectly FOP source code and assure that there is absolutely no way to produce a PDF like the one I've attached then I'll try to implement that mechanism in FOP. It could be difficult to me because of my limited knowledge of FOP and PDF but it's worth trying. Tomasz mehdi houshmand wrote: Hi Tomasz, Sorry, maybe I didn't communicate what I meant properly. I wasn't saying there's no way to do that in PDF, or that the PDF spec doesn't allow that. I only meant that in FOP the base 14 fonts are encoded using WinAnsi. This means that FOP doesn't do what you're asking for. It is possible to get FOP to support more encodings, but the feature would have to be implemented. Mehdi On 23 June 2011 18:36, Tomasz Judycki tjudy...@tv.com.pl wrote: Hi Mehdi, Have you looked at pdf_pl.pdf attached to my first post? This is proof that it's possible to do what I want. The size of this file is 12kb, definitely no embedded fonts but all Polish characters are properly printed. I guess you can't read Polish but compare PDF with JPG and if they look the same you can't say that there's no way to do that. I just don't know how to use the same method using FOP. Regards, Tomasz mehdi houshmand wrote: Hi Tomasz, I could be wrong here, since I haven't tested this myself, but I'm pretty sure that currently there's no way to do what you're wanting without embedding the font. The Base14Fonts only look like they support WinAnsi encoding (with the obvious exception of ZapfDingbats and Symbol). Hope that helps, Mehdi On 23 June 2011 13:45, Tomasz Judycki tjudy...@tv.com.pl wrote: Hi! People say that it's not possible to generate a PDF file with Central European characters using only Base14 fonts and that embedding true type fonts is necessary to achieve that. However I managed to do so, using another technology, several years ago. Look at the example http://old.nabble.com/file/p31910912/pdf_pl.pdf pdf_pl.pdf (it should looks like http://old.nabble.com/file/p31910912/pdf_pl.jpg pdf_pl.jpg ). This PDF file contains: 4 0 obj /Type /Encoding /BaseEncoding
Re: Central European characters in PDF with Base14 fonts
Hi Jeremias, Thanks for your detailed answer. I'm trying to follow your instructions but got some troubles. I've put that: font embed-url=file:///C:/home/debug/pdf/base14/Helvetica.pfb ... in PDF renderer section and referenced-fonts match font-family=Helvetica/ /referenced-fonts in general section, before renderer definitions and get: SEVERE: Exception org.apache.fop.apps.FOPException: Failed to resolve font with embed-url 'file:///C:/home/debug/pdf/base14/Helvetica.pfb' at org.apache.fop.util.LogUtil.handleError(LogUtil.java:38) at org.apache.fop.fonts.FontInfoConfigurator.getFontInfo(FontInfoConfigurator.java:212) Changing .pfb into .amf doesn't help: SEVERE: Exception org.apache.fop.apps.FOPException: Failed to resolve font with embed-url 'file:///C:/home/debug/pdf/base14/Helvetica.amf' at org.apache.fop.util.LogUtil.handleError(LogUtil.java:38) at org.apache.fop.fonts.FontInfoConfigurator.getFontInfo(FontInfoConfigurator.java:212) I've double checked path and file names. Am I missing something? What do you think about another idea: I could change src\codegen\fonts\Helvetica.xml from StandardEncoding into CEEncoding, then modify codegen target in build.xml, replacing WinAnsiEncoding with CEEncoding and build FOP from sources. Is it proper way to go? Regards, Tomasz Jeremias Maerki-2 wrote: Hi Tomasz FOP currently hardcodes the base14 fonts as Java classes and in single-byte, single-encoding mode. That means (except for Symbol and ZapfDingbats) WinAnsiEncoding only. So currently, there is no possibility to get CE characters out of the box, because FOP doesn't have the character metrics for these additional characters. PDF 1.4 defines the set of Base 14 fonts and mentions that the corresponding AFM metrics files can be downloaded from Adobe's website. That also implies that all characters found in the AFM files are to be considered available. As you've seen above, FOP only supports a subset of that at the moment. What you can do at this time is just configure the base 14 fonts in userconfig.xml to override FOP's built-in set: Download the base 14 AFM set from here: http://www.adobe.com/devnet/font.html http://wwwimages.adobe.com/www.adobe.com/content/dam/Adobe/en/devnet/font/pdfs/Core14_AFMs.zip Put all the AFMs in a directory. Repeat the following for every base 14 font that you need: font-triplet name=Helvetica style=normal weight=normal/ font-triplet name=sans-serif style=normal weight=normal/ font-triplet name=any style=normal weight=normal/ Obviously, you have to adjust the file URL and change font-triplets as necessary. And you'll note my use of the .pfb file (tha actual font program) which is not in the ZIP downloaded from Adobe. That doesn't matter. FOP derives the .afm file from the .pfb filename. The final clue is not to embed the font by adding: fonts !-- that's the general fonts section, not the format-specific one! -- referenced-fonts match font-family=Helvetica/ /referenced-fonts /fonts See http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/fop/1.0/fonts.html#embedding That should give you what you're looking for. On 23.06.2011 23:42:33 Tomasz Judycki wrote: Mehdi, May be I don't understand details in PDF technology - I'm not an expert in this area. It seems to me that my example of PDF file use WinAnsi encoding for base 14 fonts. Look inside, at font definitions: /Type /Font /Subtype /Type1 /Name /BF5 /Encoding 4 0 R /BaseFont /Helvetica Encoding is defined in 4 0 R, I've quoted it already: 4 0 obj /Type /Encoding /BaseEncoding /WinAnsiEncoding /Differences [ 143 /Zacute 159 /zacute Isn't in Base14 font in WinAnsi encoding? And still some extra characters - defined by glyph names - are displayed properly. I don't want FOP to support other encodings in Base14 fonts - I'm not sure if it's possible according to PDF format. I just want to add that /Differences - this mechanism is supported in PDFEncoding.java but that's for embedded fonts only, I believe. If you know perfectly FOP source code and assure that there is absolutely no way to produce a PDF like the one I've attached then I'll try to implement that mechanism in FOP. It could be difficult to me because of my limited knowledge of FOP and PDF but it's worth trying. Tomasz mehdi houshmand wrote: Hi Tomasz, Sorry, maybe I didn't communicate what I meant properly. I wasn't saying there's no way to do that in PDF, or that the PDF spec doesn't allow that. I only meant that in FOP the base 14 fonts are encoded using WinAnsi. This means that FOP doesn't do what you're asking for. It is possible to get FOP to support more encodings, but the feature would have to be implemented. Mehdi On 23 June 2011 18:36, Tomasz Judycki tjudy...@tv.com.pl wrote: Hi Mehdi, Have you looked at pdf_pl.pdf attached to
Re: Central European characters in PDF with Base14 fonts
Hi Tomasz, I could be wrong here, since I haven't tested this myself, but I'm pretty sure that currently there's no way to do what you're wanting without embedding the font. The Base14Fonts only look like they support WinAnsi encoding (with the obvious exception of ZapfDingbats and Symbol). Hope that helps, Mehdi On 23 June 2011 13:45, Tomasz Judycki tjudy...@tv.com.pl wrote: Hi! People say that it's not possible to generate a PDF file with Central European characters using only Base14 fonts and that embedding true type fonts is necessary to achieve that. However I managed to do so, using another technology, several years ago. Look at the example http://old.nabble.com/file/p31910912/pdf_pl.pdf pdf_pl.pdf (it should looks like http://old.nabble.com/file/p31910912/pdf_pl.jpg pdf_pl.jpg ). This PDF file contains: 4 0 obj /Type /Encoding /BaseEncoding /WinAnsiEncoding /Differences [ 143 /Zacute 159 /zacute 140 /Sacute 156 /sacute 202 /Eogonek 234 /eogonek 198 /Cacute 230 /cacute 209 /Nacute 241 /nacute 211 /Oacute 243 /oacute 163 /Lslash 179 /lslash 165 /Aogonek 185 /aogonek 175 /Zdotaccent 191 /zdotaccent ] endobj The problem was described several times, e.g.: http://old.nabble.com/Using-Central-European-characters-td3739791.html https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=17828 It seems that FOP 1.0 implements Central European encoding, for example in src/codegen/fonts/encodings.xml there is definition of CE_ENCODING. The question is: how could I generate PDF from http://old.nabble.com/file/p31910912/pltext.fo pltext.fo (effect should looks like http://old.nabble.com/file/p31910912/pltext.jpg pltext.jpg ) using just Base14 fonts? I would like to avoid embedding true type fonts to simplify the solution and to keep PDF small. Embedded font means +300kb. Regards, Tomasz Judycki -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Central-European-characters-in-PDF-with-Base14-fonts-tp31910912p31910912.html Sent from the FOP - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: fop-users-unsubscr...@xmlgraphics.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: fop-users-h...@xmlgraphics.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: fop-users-unsubscr...@xmlgraphics.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: fop-users-h...@xmlgraphics.apache.org
Re: Central European characters in PDF with Base14 fonts
Hi Mehdi, Have you looked at pdf_pl.pdf attached to my first post? This is proof that it's possible to do what I want. The size of this file is 12kb, definitely no embedded fonts but all Polish characters are properly printed. I guess you can't read Polish but compare PDF with JPG and if they look the same you can't say that there's no way to do that. I just don't know how to use the same method using FOP. Regards, Tomasz mehdi houshmand wrote: Hi Tomasz, I could be wrong here, since I haven't tested this myself, but I'm pretty sure that currently there's no way to do what you're wanting without embedding the font. The Base14Fonts only look like they support WinAnsi encoding (with the obvious exception of ZapfDingbats and Symbol). Hope that helps, Mehdi On 23 June 2011 13:45, Tomasz Judycki tjudy...@tv.com.pl wrote: Hi! People say that it's not possible to generate a PDF file with Central European characters using only Base14 fonts and that embedding true type fonts is necessary to achieve that. However I managed to do so, using another technology, several years ago. Look at the example http://old.nabble.com/file/p31910912/pdf_pl.pdf pdf_pl.pdf (it should looks like http://old.nabble.com/file/p31910912/pdf_pl.jpg pdf_pl.jpg ). This PDF file contains: 4 0 obj /Type /Encoding /BaseEncoding /WinAnsiEncoding /Differences [ 143 /Zacute 159 /zacute 140 /Sacute 156 /sacute 202 /Eogonek 234 /eogonek 198 /Cacute 230 /cacute 209 /Nacute 241 /nacute 211 /Oacute 243 /oacute 163 /Lslash 179 /lslash 165 /Aogonek 185 /aogonek 175 /Zdotaccent 191 /zdotaccent ] endobj The problem was described several times, e.g.: http://old.nabble.com/Using-Central-European-characters-td3739791.html https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=17828 It seems that FOP 1.0 implements Central European encoding, for example in src/codegen/fonts/encodings.xml there is definition of CE_ENCODING. The question is: how could I generate PDF from http://old.nabble.com/file/p31910912/pltext.fo pltext.fo (effect should looks like http://old.nabble.com/file/p31910912/pltext.jpg pltext.jpg ) using just Base14 fonts? I would like to avoid embedding true type fonts to simplify the solution and to keep PDF small. Embedded font means +300kb. Regards, Tomasz Judycki -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Central-European-characters-in-PDF-with-Base14-fonts-tp31910912p31910912.html Sent from the FOP - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: fop-users-unsubscr...@xmlgraphics.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: fop-users-h...@xmlgraphics.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: fop-users-unsubscr...@xmlgraphics.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: fop-users-h...@xmlgraphics.apache.org -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Central-European-characters-in-PDF-with-Base14-fonts-tp31910912p31911981.html Sent from the FOP - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: fop-users-unsubscr...@xmlgraphics.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: fop-users-h...@xmlgraphics.apache.org
Re: Central European characters in PDF with Base14 fonts
Hi Tomasz, Sorry, maybe I didn't communicate what I meant properly. I wasn't saying there's no way to do that in PDF, or that the PDF spec doesn't allow that. I only meant that in FOP the base 14 fonts are encoded using WinAnsi. This means that FOP doesn't do what you're asking for. It is possible to get FOP to support more encodings, but the feature would have to be implemented. Mehdi On 23 June 2011 18:36, Tomasz Judycki tjudy...@tv.com.pl wrote: Hi Mehdi, Have you looked at pdf_pl.pdf attached to my first post? This is proof that it's possible to do what I want. The size of this file is 12kb, definitely no embedded fonts but all Polish characters are properly printed. I guess you can't read Polish but compare PDF with JPG and if they look the same you can't say that there's no way to do that. I just don't know how to use the same method using FOP. Regards, Tomasz mehdi houshmand wrote: Hi Tomasz, I could be wrong here, since I haven't tested this myself, but I'm pretty sure that currently there's no way to do what you're wanting without embedding the font. The Base14Fonts only look like they support WinAnsi encoding (with the obvious exception of ZapfDingbats and Symbol). Hope that helps, Mehdi On 23 June 2011 13:45, Tomasz Judycki tjudy...@tv.com.pl wrote: Hi! People say that it's not possible to generate a PDF file with Central European characters using only Base14 fonts and that embedding true type fonts is necessary to achieve that. However I managed to do so, using another technology, several years ago. Look at the example http://old.nabble.com/file/p31910912/pdf_pl.pdf pdf_pl.pdf (it should looks like http://old.nabble.com/file/p31910912/pdf_pl.jpg pdf_pl.jpg ). This PDF file contains: 4 0 obj /Type /Encoding /BaseEncoding /WinAnsiEncoding /Differences [ 143 /Zacute 159 /zacute 140 /Sacute 156 /sacute 202 /Eogonek 234 /eogonek 198 /Cacute 230 /cacute 209 /Nacute 241 /nacute 211 /Oacute 243 /oacute 163 /Lslash 179 /lslash 165 /Aogonek 185 /aogonek 175 /Zdotaccent 191 /zdotaccent ] endobj The problem was described several times, e.g.: http://old.nabble.com/Using-Central-European-characters-td3739791.html https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=17828 It seems that FOP 1.0 implements Central European encoding, for example in src/codegen/fonts/encodings.xml there is definition of CE_ENCODING. The question is: how could I generate PDF from http://old.nabble.com/file/p31910912/pltext.fo pltext.fo (effect should looks like http://old.nabble.com/file/p31910912/pltext.jpg pltext.jpg ) using just Base14 fonts? I would like to avoid embedding true type fonts to simplify the solution and to keep PDF small. Embedded font means +300kb. Regards, Tomasz Judycki -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Central-European-characters-in-PDF-with-Base14-fonts-tp31910912p31910912.html Sent from the FOP - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: fop-users-unsubscr...@xmlgraphics.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: fop-users-h...@xmlgraphics.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: fop-users-unsubscr...@xmlgraphics.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: fop-users-h...@xmlgraphics.apache.org -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Central-European-characters-in-PDF-with-Base14-fonts-tp31910912p31911981.html Sent from the FOP - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: fop-users-unsubscr...@xmlgraphics.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: fop-users-h...@xmlgraphics.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: fop-users-unsubscr...@xmlgraphics.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: fop-users-h...@xmlgraphics.apache.org
Re: Central European characters in PDF with Base14 fonts
Mehdi, May be I don't understand details in PDF technology - I'm not an expert in this area. It seems to me that my example of PDF file use WinAnsi encoding for base 14 fonts. Look inside, at font definitions: /Type /Font /Subtype /Type1 /Name /BF5 /Encoding 4 0 R /BaseFont /Helvetica Encoding is defined in 4 0 R, I've quoted it already: 4 0 obj /Type /Encoding /BaseEncoding /WinAnsiEncoding /Differences [ 143 /Zacute 159 /zacute Isn't in Base14 font in WinAnsi encoding? And still some extra characters - defined by glyph names - are displayed properly. I don't want FOP to support other encodings in Base14 fonts - I'm not sure if it's possible according to PDF format. I just want to add that /Differences - this mechanism is supported in PDFEncoding.java but that's for embedded fonts only, I believe. If you know perfectly FOP source code and assure that there is absolutely no way to produce a PDF like the one I've attached then I'll try to implement that mechanism in FOP. It could be difficult to me because of my limited knowledge of FOP and PDF but it's worth trying. Tomasz mehdi houshmand wrote: Hi Tomasz, Sorry, maybe I didn't communicate what I meant properly. I wasn't saying there's no way to do that in PDF, or that the PDF spec doesn't allow that. I only meant that in FOP the base 14 fonts are encoded using WinAnsi. This means that FOP doesn't do what you're asking for. It is possible to get FOP to support more encodings, but the feature would have to be implemented. Mehdi On 23 June 2011 18:36, Tomasz Judycki tjudy...@tv.com.pl wrote: Hi Mehdi, Have you looked at pdf_pl.pdf attached to my first post? This is proof that it's possible to do what I want. The size of this file is 12kb, definitely no embedded fonts but all Polish characters are properly printed. I guess you can't read Polish but compare PDF with JPG and if they look the same you can't say that there's no way to do that. I just don't know how to use the same method using FOP. Regards, Tomasz mehdi houshmand wrote: Hi Tomasz, I could be wrong here, since I haven't tested this myself, but I'm pretty sure that currently there's no way to do what you're wanting without embedding the font. The Base14Fonts only look like they support WinAnsi encoding (with the obvious exception of ZapfDingbats and Symbol). Hope that helps, Mehdi On 23 June 2011 13:45, Tomasz Judycki tjudy...@tv.com.pl wrote: Hi! People say that it's not possible to generate a PDF file with Central European characters using only Base14 fonts and that embedding true type fonts is necessary to achieve that. However I managed to do so, using another technology, several years ago. Look at the example http://old.nabble.com/file/p31910912/pdf_pl.pdf pdf_pl.pdf (it should looks like http://old.nabble.com/file/p31910912/pdf_pl.jpg pdf_pl.jpg ). This PDF file contains: 4 0 obj /Type /Encoding /BaseEncoding /WinAnsiEncoding /Differences [ 143 /Zacute 159 /zacute 140 /Sacute 156 /sacute 202 /Eogonek 234 /eogonek 198 /Cacute 230 /cacute 209 /Nacute 241 /nacute 211 /Oacute 243 /oacute 163 /Lslash 179 /lslash 165 /Aogonek 185 /aogonek 175 /Zdotaccent 191 /zdotaccent ] endobj The problem was described several times, e.g.: http://old.nabble.com/Using-Central-European-characters-td3739791.html https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=17828 It seems that FOP 1.0 implements Central European encoding, for example in src/codegen/fonts/encodings.xml there is definition of CE_ENCODING. The question is: how could I generate PDF from http://old.nabble.com/file/p31910912/pltext.fo pltext.fo (effect should looks like http://old.nabble.com/file/p31910912/pltext.jpg pltext.jpg ) using just Base14 fonts? I would like to avoid embedding true type fonts to simplify the solution and to keep PDF small. Embedded font means +300kb. Regards, Tomasz Judycki -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Central-European-characters-in-PDF-with-Base14-fonts-tp31910912p31910912.html Sent from the FOP - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: fop-users-unsubscr...@xmlgraphics.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: fop-users-h...@xmlgraphics.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: fop-users-unsubscr...@xmlgraphics.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: fop-users-h...@xmlgraphics.apache.org -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Central-European-characters-in-PDF-with-Base14-fonts-tp31910912p31911981.html Sent from the FOP - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: fop-users-unsubscr...@xmlgraphics.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail:
