Re: [foreman-dev] Retire the RFC repo?

2017-03-28 Thread Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden
On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 01:32:02PM +0100, Greg Sutcliffe wrote: > On Tuesday, 28 March 2017 12:50:14 BST Marek Hulán wrote: > > > While I agree that we need a better way to end discussions, I think that > > > on point 1 we can improve as well. To me it feels like we lack > > > visibility. It has be

Re: [foreman-dev] Retire the RFC repo?

2017-03-28 Thread Greg Sutcliffe
On Tuesday, 28 March 2017 12:50:14 BST Marek Hulán wrote: > > While I agree that we need a better way to end discussions, I think that > > on point 1 we can improve as well. To me it feels like we lack > > visibility. It has been suggested to move back to the mailing list since > > that has more vi

Re: [foreman-dev] Retire the RFC repo?

2017-03-28 Thread Marek Hulán
On úterý 28. března 2017 13:38:31 CEST Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden wrote: > On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 03:39:45PM +, Greg Sutcliffe wrote: > > I've been meaning to reply to this for about a week, sorry for the delay. > > This is a topic I've been thinking about for a *long* time, so apologies > > f

Re: [foreman-dev] Retire the RFC repo?

2017-03-28 Thread Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden
On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 03:39:45PM +, Greg Sutcliffe wrote: > I've been meaning to reply to this for about a week, sorry for the delay. > This > is a topic I've been thinking about for a *long* time, so apologies for the > long thread :P Let me be even later to the party. > I think there's

Re: [foreman-dev] Retire the RFC repo?

2017-03-22 Thread Lukas Zapletal
I find email (properly tagged) more comfortable than github or wiki, but I can live with current status if folks prefer. So you can bucket me in "keep as is". LZ On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 4:39 PM, Greg Sutcliffe wrote: > I've been meaning to reply to this for about a week, sorry for the delay. Thi

Re: [foreman-dev] Retire the RFC repo?

2017-03-21 Thread Greg Sutcliffe
I've been meaning to reply to this for about a week, sorry for the delay. This is a topic I've been thinking about for a *long* time, so apologies for the long thread :P I think there's two issues here. One is *how* to have the discussion, and the other is how to *end* the discussion. From the

Re: [foreman-dev] Retire the RFC repo?

2017-03-15 Thread Perry Gagne
I also have not made a contribution to the RFC repo, but from time to time have read others. I like the idea of the RFC repo, but wonder if it could be better organized. One frustration I have with it is it is if you want to get a full idea of new and upcoming ideas, you have to browse each indivi

Re: [foreman-dev] Retire the RFC repo?

2017-03-15 Thread John Mitsch
I have an open design in the RFC repo that contains screenshots and feedback that I still plan to implement. I've kept it open due to some refactoring that has to happen before it can be implemented. I like having a central place that I can design out a feature with other developers and UX team. I

Re: [foreman-dev] Retire the RFC repo?

2017-03-15 Thread Eric D Helms
I also like the RFC repository. I have not merged or closed a lot of my RFCs because I consider the designs to still be open discussions that need re-visting and continued visibility. The ability to comment on specific issues and have multiple threads going makes it much easier to follow than a mai

Re: [foreman-dev] Retire the RFC repo?

2017-03-15 Thread Justin Sherrill
On 03/13/2017 07:10 AM, Tomas Strachota wrote: For me the biggest advantage of RFC repo over design discussions on mailing list is that when you come back to it later, you immediately see the latest state of the proposal without any need for reading through the whole email thread. At the same t

Re: Re: [foreman-dev] Retire the RFC repo?

2017-03-13 Thread Daniel Lobato Garcia
On 03/13, Lukas Zapletal wrote: > >some design decisions are still being made without going through the RFC > >process, either by mailing list discussions or by people just creating PRs > >without any prior discussion. > > I've seen this several times particularly in Smart Proxy repo where > some

Re: [foreman-dev] Retire the RFC repo?

2017-03-13 Thread Tomas Strachota
For me the biggest advantage of RFC repo over design discussions on mailing list is that when you come back to it later, you immediately see the latest state of the proposal without any need for reading through the whole email thread. At the same time, when you what to see the whole discussion you

Re: [foreman-dev] Retire the RFC repo?

2017-03-13 Thread Marek Hulán
On pondělí 13. března 2017 9:44:12 CET Lukas Zapletal wrote: > >some design decisions are still being made without going through the RFC > >process, either by mailing list discussions or by people just creating PRs > >without any prior discussion. > I've seen this several times particularly in Smar

Re: [foreman-dev] Retire the RFC repo?

2017-03-13 Thread Lukas Zapletal
>some design decisions are still being made without going through the RFC >process, either by mailing list discussions or by people just creating PRs >without any prior discussion. I've seen this several times particularly in Smart Proxy repo where some design changes were part of regular PRs wi

[foreman-dev] Retire the RFC repo?

2017-03-12 Thread Tomer Brisker
Hello, About a year ago, we decided to try using a new system for discussing design decisions prior to making changes, by creating a repo for RFCs [1]. Part of the problem was that when discussing on the mailing list, discussions tended to die out without a resolution, and eventually whoever wrote