Re: [fossil-users] How to change 'binary' to non-binary?

2010-10-20 Thread Ron Aaron
On Tuesday 19 October 2010 15:52:48 Richard Hipp wrote:

 The diff limitation only comes up when you try to merge.  You must be doing
 something more than backing things up.

Ah, no; it was my mistake.

I thought my fossil repo was growing too quickly (as in, simply putting the 
new version of the SQL file in as-is).  But that was a mistaken perception on 
my part.   So, never mind ...

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Re: [fossil-users] Fossil enhancements: Please test

2010-10-20 Thread Hakki Dogusan
Hi,

19/10/2010 23:59, Richard Hipp wrote:
 There is a file-format enhancement to Fossil that seeks to make Fossil
 run more efficiently on projects with a large number of files in each
 checkout.  Help in testing this enhancement will be appreciated.

 [snip]

 It will be very helpful if you can try out this experimental Fossil and
 report both successes and failures.  This is a great opportunity for you
 to contribute to the Fossil project even if you don't have the skills or
 desire to go code diving.

 [snip]

 Thanks for testing out the recent Fossil changes.  Please be sure to
 report either success or failure (whichever you encounter) with the new
 Fossil to this mailing list, or directly to me at d...@sqlite.org
 mailto:d...@sqlite.org.


I test it against a repo which has ~4780 files in it.

No observable difference with version [8474ca6747].

(I only did some edit and commit.)


Note: It seems detach command may useful in normal usage too; ie. you 
want history of repo but need to brake the heritage/sync from the real 
repo.


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Re: [fossil-users] Fossil enhancements: Please test

2010-10-20 Thread Richard Hipp
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 5:32 AM, Hakki Dogusan dogus...@tr.net wrote:

 Hi,

 19/10/2010 23:59, Richard Hipp wrote:
  There is a file-format enhancement to Fossil that seeks to make Fossil
  run more efficiently on projects with a large number of files in each
  checkout.  Help in testing this enhancement will be appreciated.
 
  [snip]
 
  It will be very helpful if you can try out this experimental Fossil and
  report both successes and failures.  This is a great opportunity for you
  to contribute to the Fossil project even if you don't have the skills or
  desire to go code diving.
 
  [snip]
 
  Thanks for testing out the recent Fossil changes.  Please be sure to
  report either success or failure (whichever you encounter) with the new
  Fossil to this mailing list, or directly to me at d...@sqlite.org
  mailto:d...@sqlite.org.
 

 I test it against a repo which has ~4780 files in it.

 No observable difference with version [8474ca6747].


But it works, right?

The performance bottleneck was coming up on a fossil rebuild command on
repository with about 200,000 commits where each commit contained about
60,000 files.  With older versions of Fossil, the rebuild was taking about
10 hours.  We are hoping to get it down to the 5-10 minute range.

Clearly the performance aspect is something that you cannot test easily.  AT
this point, I'm just wanting to make sure that all the old edit/commit
infrastructure still works correctly.

Another thing to check:  For your new checkins on this repository, please go
click on the link to the detailed information about that checkin, then click
on the Manifest link.  Does the manifest show all 4780 files in your
check-in, or only those that changed?  (I'm hoping it only shows those that
changed.)

Thanks for testing!



 (I only did some edit and commit.)


 Note: It seems detach command may useful in normal usage too; ie. you
 want history of repo but need to brake the heritage/sync from the real
 repo.


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Re: [fossil-users] Fossil enhancements: Please test

2010-10-20 Thread Hakki Dogusan
Hi,

20/10/2010 14:26, Richard Hipp wrote:


 On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 5:32 AM, Hakki Dogusan dogus...@tr.net
 mailto:dogus...@tr.net wrote:

 [snip]


 I test it against a repo which has ~4780 files in it.

 No observable difference with version [8474ca6747].

 But it works, right?

Yes, of course :)

I only got a warning on open:
WARNING: manifest checksum does not agree with disk

Addendum: Files link crashes fossil.exe!
Then it shows http://127.0.0.1:8080/dir?ci=tip; in address bar.
(I checked with 'real' fossil.exe; Files link works there.)


 The performance bottleneck was coming up on a fossil rebuild command
 on repository with about 200,000 commits where each commit contained
 about 60,000 files.  With older versions of Fossil, the rebuild was
 taking about 10 hours.  We are hoping to get it down to the 5-10 minute
 range.

 Clearly the performance aspect is something that you cannot test
 easily.  AT this point, I'm just wanting to make sure that all the old
 edit/commit infrastructure still works correctly.

 Another thing to check:  For your new checkins on this repository,
 please go click on the link to the detailed information about that
 checkin, then click on the Manifest link.  Does the manifest show all
 4780 files in your check-in, or only those that changed?  (I'm hoping it
 only shows those that changed.)


Only changed ones showed.


 Thanks for testing!

 [snip]

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Re: [fossil-users] Fossil enhancements: Please test

2010-10-20 Thread Richard Hipp
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 8:01 AM, Hakki Dogusan dogus...@tr.net wrote:

 I only got a warning on open:
 WARNING: manifest checksum does not agree with disk

 Addendum: Files link crashes fossil.exe!
 Then it shows http://127.0.0.1:8080/dir?ci=tip; in address bar.
 (I checked with 'real' fossil.exe; Files link works there.)


Please try again using
http://www.fossil-scm.org/fossil-w32-20101020123125.zip and let me know
whether or not these problems have been fixed.  Thanks!

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Re: [fossil-users] Fossil enhancements: Please test

2010-10-20 Thread Hakki Dogusan
Hi,

20/10/2010 15:34, Richard Hipp wrote:


 On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 8:01 AM, Hakki Dogusan dogus...@tr.net
 mailto:dogus...@tr.net wrote:

 I only got a warning on open:
 WARNING: manifest checksum does not agree with disk

 Addendum: Files link crashes fossil.exe!
 Then it shows http://127.0.0.1:8080/dir?ci=tip; in address bar.
 (I checked with 'real' fossil.exe; Files link works there.)


 Please try again using
 http://www.fossil-scm.org/fossil-w32-20101020123125.zip and let me know
 whether or not these problems have been fixed.  Thanks!


Both warning and crash gone with this version. Thank you!


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Re: [fossil-users] user capabilities - ui improvements?

2010-10-20 Thread Ramon Ribó
Also, It is not clear for me the difference between:

a   -  Admin: Create and delete users

and

s  -  Setup/Super-user: Setup and configure this website


Is it really necessary to have these two separated options? They
really confuse my co-workers
and myself

Ramon Ribó


2010/10/20 Wilson, Ronald rwils...@harris.com

 I’d like to make some observations of and suggestions for improving the ui 
 admin of users.



 The User List screen is very clear; the notes with each capability as a 
 letter spelled out is very neat and usable.  However, when you click on a 
 specific user, e.g. anonymous, the capabilities selection screen doesn’t show 
 the letters anywhere and the list is in a different order from the letters.  
 Also, some capabilities are renamed, e.g. on the user list, ‘h’ is for 
 ‘hyperlinks’ whereas on the capabilities selection screen, I’m pretty sure 
 ‘h’ is for ‘History’.



 Also, the default capabilities seem to imply that ‘developer’ inherits the 
 capabilities of ‘reader’ (because the Password capability is not given to 
 developer by default).  This could be explained in the special logins section 
 of the capabilities selection screen.



 All of this makes user administration a little cumbersome.  I suggest that as 
 a minimum, the capabilities selection screen should have the letters next to 
 the checkboxes in that correspond to the letters defined on the user list 
 screen.



 One last thing – just a question.  Capability ‘b’ or Attach controls adding 
 attachments to wiki or tickets.  Does this depend on the capabilities ‘m’ 
 (append-wiki) or ‘c’ (append-tkt) or ‘f’ (new-wiki) or ‘n’ (new-tkt)?  I’d 
 like to allow anonymous users to add attachments to tickets, but not wikis.  
 Is that even possible?



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Re: [fossil-users] user capabilities - ui improvements?

2010-10-20 Thread Wilson, Ronald
I just notices at the bottom of the user list there is note #4:



4. Users with privilege v inherit the combined privileges of developer, 
anonymous, and nobody.



Well, 'v' is 'Developer' - so I'm thinking it wasn't really meant that 
developers should inherit the privileges of developer.  Probably this is a typo 
and what was meant was this:



4. Users with privilege v inherit the combined privileges of reader, anonymous, 
and nobody.



This would resolve one of my comments below.



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 -Original Message-

 From: fossil-users-boun...@lists.fossil-scm.org [mailto:fossil-users-

 boun...@lists.fossil-scm.org] On Behalf Of Ramon Ribó

 Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 10:29 AM

 To: fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org

 Subject: Re: [fossil-users] user capabilities - ui improvements?



 Also, It is not clear for me the difference between:



 a   -  Admin: Create and delete users



 and



 s  -  Setup/Super-user: Setup and configure this website





 Is it really necessary to have these two separated options? They

 really confuse my co-workers

 and myself



 Ramon Ribó





 2010/10/20 Wilson, Ronald rwils...@harris.com

 

  I'd like to make some observations of and suggestions for improving the

 ui admin of users.

 

 

 

  The User List screen is very clear; the notes with each capability as a

 letter spelled out is very neat and usable.  However, when you click on a

 specific user, e.g. anonymous, the capabilities selection screen doesn't

 show the letters anywhere and the list is in a different order from the

 letters.  Also, some capabilities are renamed, e.g. on the user list, 'h'

 is for 'hyperlinks' whereas on the capabilities selection screen, I'm

 pretty sure 'h' is for 'History'.

 

 

 

  Also, the default capabilities seem to imply that 'developer' inherits

 the capabilities of 'reader' (because the Password capability is not given

 to developer by default).  This could be explained in the special logins

 section of the capabilities selection screen.

 

 

 

  All of this makes user administration a little cumbersome.  I suggest

 that as a minimum, the capabilities selection screen should have the

 letters next to the checkboxes in that correspond to the letters defined

 on the user list screen.

 

 

 

  One last thing - just a question.  Capability 'b' or Attach controls

 adding attachments to wiki or tickets.  Does this depend on the

 capabilities 'm' (append-wiki) or 'c' (append-tkt) or 'f' (new-wiki) or

 'n' (new-tkt)?  I'd like to allow anonymous users to add attachments to

 tickets, but not wikis.  Is that even possible?

 

 

 

  RW

 

 

 

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[fossil-users] Jurassic Fossil backup question

2010-10-20 Thread markovi...@inwind.it
Hi,
I want to (properly) implement a backup feature in Jurassic. The rationale is, 
I want all my .fossil files to be copied to a (secure) directory.

I think the fossil push command may be what I'm looking for, or is it better 
to simply copy the .fossil files?

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Re: [fossil-users] Jurassic Fossil backup question

2010-10-20 Thread Kees Nuyt
On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 18:03:21 +0200 (CEST), you wrote:

 Hi,
 I want to (properly) implement a backup feature in Jurassic. The rationale 
 is, 
 I want all my .fossil files to be copied to a (secure) directory.

Every .fossil repository is a SQLite database file, you
could use the .backup command of the SQLite command line
tool  (sqlite3), or the sqlite3_backup_*() C API.

 I think the fossil push command may be what I'm looking for,
 or is it better to simply copy the .fossil files?

Copy is fine, unless someone changes the database at the
same time, so you should lock the file somehow.

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