Re: [fossil-users] "permuted index" doc-page: request for feedback (was: "Remove redundant shun links from doc page.")

2015-08-24 Thread Sergei Gavrikov
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015, Michai Ramakers wrote:

> On 24 August 2015 at 13:29, Sergei Gavrikov  wrote:
> > On Mon, 24 Aug 2015, Stephan Beal wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 12:42 PM, Sergei Gavrikov wrote:
> >>   Two lists (C/P) look too long for human. Perhaps, Fossil
> >>   documentation reached the state when tag cloud
> >>   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tag_cloud would be the next
> >>   solution and we could have some  "horizontal" layout for the
> >>   "permuted index". But, all articles must have the precision set
> >>   of key words.
> >>
> >> Fossil's tagging model inherently supports tagging arbitrary content
> >> (including doc files, for use in a tag cloud, or even tagging other tags),
> >> but we've currently got no code for handling tags anywhere except commits.
> >> Looking at the schema's comments, it seems that tag propagation (which 
> >> would
> >> be needed for tagging doc files) only applies to checkins, and i'm not sure
> >> what change(s) would be needed to support that.
> >
> > Really.
> >
> >> http://fossil-scm.org/index.html/artifact/cae75601dd0b3940bc192ff5a8b142d09
> >> 9bbc4e3?txt=1&ln=376-390
> >
> > Then `mkindex.tcl' script would "grep" `fossil tags` output to build
> > tag-cloud in HTML if all doc pages were tagged using known semantic,
> > however, it is possible also to set any tag(s) directly in Tcl script
> > (in addition to a title) for that.
>
> that's a bit outside my skill and interest w.r.t. HTML/CSS I fear, but
> the idea looks interesting.  Do you have any example (URL?) or idea of
> how a tag-cloud could look for Fossil, taking into account the
> appearance of the rest of the site?

I did not resist on tag cloud. That was just an idea about compact
layout for long list of Fossil documents.

How would it look. For example, surf to http://www.tagcrowd.com/, choose
'Web Page URL' tab. I entered the URL
http://fossil-scm.org/index.html/doc/trunk/www/permutedindex.html and
got one nice example (auto-generated tag cloud can be downloaded as
embedded HTML, an image or PDF file). I saw two big (bold) words between
50 other, *fossil* and ...  *git* :-) I do not sure that  generated PDF
(http://www.tagcrowd.com/pdf/1440448147_cloud.pdf) will be exist a
while, but, you can create own version.

Sergei
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Re: [fossil-users] "permuted index" doc-page: request for feedback (was: "Remove redundant shun links from doc page.")

2015-08-24 Thread jungle Boogie
On 24 August 2015 at 12:55, Michai Ramakers  wrote:
> On 24 August 2015 at 20:30, jungle Boogie  wrote:
>>
>> Do you think the permuted index should be listed on the sitemap? It's
>> already in the header as 'Docs' but so are wiki, timeline, tickets,
>> etc.
>
> I don't know... To me "permuted index" didn't ring a bell before I saw
> Fossil, but some people are familiar with it.
> To me, "Docs" and "Download" (and "About") or similar are perhaps the
> first things I look for on a site, and they are pretty easy to find on
> fossil-scm.org :)
>

Whatever it's called, it's _not_ on the sitemap. Do you think it
should be listed as something on the sitemap?

> Michai


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Re: [fossil-users] "permuted index" doc-page: request for feedback (was: "Remove redundant shun links from doc page.")

2015-08-24 Thread Michai Ramakers
On 24 August 2015 at 13:29, Sergei Gavrikov  wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Aug 2015, Stephan Beal wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 12:42 PM, Sergei Gavrikov wrote:
>>   Two lists (C/P) look too long for human. Perhaps, Fossil
>>   documentation reached the state when tag cloud
>>   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tag_cloud would be the next
>>   solution and we could have some  "horizontal" layout for the
>>   "permuted index". But, all articles must have the precision set
>>   of key words.
>>
>> Fossil's tagging model inherently supports tagging arbitrary content
>> (including doc files, for use in a tag cloud, or even tagging other tags),
>> but we've currently got no code for handling tags anywhere except commits.
>> Looking at the schema's comments, it seems that tag propagation (which would
>> be needed for tagging doc files) only applies to checkins, and i'm not sure
>> what change(s) would be needed to support that.
>
> Really.
>
>> http://fossil-scm.org/index.html/artifact/cae75601dd0b3940bc192ff5a8b142d09
>> 9bbc4e3?txt=1&ln=376-390
>
> Then `mkindex.tcl' script would "grep" `fossil tags` output to build
> tag-cloud in HTML if all doc pages were tagged using known semantic,
> however, it is possible also to set any tag(s) directly in Tcl script
> (in addition to a title) for that.

that's a bit outside my skill and interest w.r.t. HTML/CSS I fear, but
the idea looks interesting.
Do you have any example (URL?) or idea of how a tag-cloud could look
for Fossil, taking into account the appearance of the rest of the
site?

Michai
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Re: [fossil-users] "permuted index" doc-page: request for feedback (was: "Remove redundant shun links from doc page.")

2015-08-24 Thread Michai Ramakers
On 24 August 2015 at 20:30, jungle Boogie  wrote:
>
> Do you think the permuted index should be listed on the sitemap? It's
> already in the header as 'Docs' but so are wiki, timeline, tickets,
> etc.

I don't know... To me "permuted index" didn't ring a bell before I saw
Fossil, but some people are familiar with it.
To me, "Docs" and "Download" (and "About") or similar are perhaps the
first things I look for on a site, and they are pretty easy to find on
fossil-scm.org :)

Michai
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Re: [fossil-users] Files shared (and updated) between repos?

2015-08-24 Thread jungle Boogie
On 21 August 2015 at 03:02, Johan Kuuse  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Everytime I create a new repos, I use a few files which I would like
> to have access to in all my repos:
>
> - README.fossil.new.repo : My own notes about how to setup a new repo.
> - setup-fossil.sh : A script how to setup a new repo automatically.
> - fossil-config.txt: A common configure file I would like to apply to
> all my repos.
>
> I would like to share these files among all my repos, both to access
> them and to update/improve them when needed.
> Anyway, to avoid duplicates of these files, I would preferred to
> update them in one single place, so these files probably should be
> stored in their own repos, what I would called a "shared" repos.
> Is there a way to achieve this? Or otherwise, any other solutions or 
> workaround?
>
> Any suggestions appreciated.
>

There is a Fossil template option and it would be cool to see it
expanded to setup a skeleton directory, like unix-like OS' can do for
new user accounts.


> Best Regards,
> Johan

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Re: [fossil-users] "permuted index" doc-page: request for feedback (was: "Remove redundant shun links from doc page.")

2015-08-24 Thread jungle Boogie
Hi Michai,
On 24 August 2015 at 02:02, Michai Ramakers  wrote:
> On 17 August 2015 at 21:12, Michai Ramakers  wrote:
>>
>> Another suggestion was to move the list of canonical titles in front
>> of the original permuted index - which sounds perfect to me.
>
> Done in http://fossil-scm.org/index.html/info/49a77b5184ef2f5a , and
> for preview visit
> http://fossil-scm.org/index.html/doc/doc-bold-canonical/www/permutedindex.html
> .
>

Looks nice to me, nice work.

Do you think the permuted index should be listed on the sitemap? It's
already in the header as 'Docs' but so are wiki, timeline, tickets,
etc.



> Michai

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Re: [fossil-users] "permuted index" doc-page: request for feedback (was: "Remove redundant shun links from doc page.")

2015-08-24 Thread Sergei Gavrikov
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015, Stephan Beal wrote:

> On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 12:42 PM, Sergei Gavrikov wrote:
>   Two lists (C/P) look too long for human. Perhaps, Fossil
>   documentation reached the state when tag cloud
>   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tag_cloud would be the next
>   solution and we could have some  "horizontal" layout for the
>   "permuted index". But, all articles must have the precision set
>   of key words.
>
> Fossil's tagging model inherently supports tagging arbitrary content
> (including doc files, for use in a tag cloud, or even tagging other tags),
> but we've currently got no code for handling tags anywhere except commits.
> Looking at the schema's comments, it seems that tag propagation (which would
> be needed for tagging doc files) only applies to checkins, and i'm not sure
> what change(s) would be needed to support that.

Really.

> http://fossil-scm.org/index.html/artifact/cae75601dd0b3940bc192ff5a8b142d09
> 9bbc4e3?txt=1&ln=376-390

Then `mkindex.tcl' script would "grep" `fossil tags` output to build
tag-cloud in HTML if all doc pages were tagged using known semantic,
however, it is possible also to set any tag(s) directly in Tcl script
(in addition to a title) for that.

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Re: [fossil-users] "permuted index" doc-page: request for feedback (was: "Remove redundant shun links from doc page.")

2015-08-24 Thread Stephan Beal
On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 12:42 PM, Sergei Gavrikov  wrote:

> Two lists (C/P) look too long for human. Perhaps, Fossil documentation
> reached the state when tag cloud https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tag_cloud
> would be the next solution and we could have some  "horizontal" layout
> for the "permuted index". But, all articles must have the precision set
> of key words.
>

Fossil's tagging model inherently supports tagging arbitrary content
(including doc files, for use in a tag cloud, or even tagging other tags),
but we've currently got no code for handling tags anywhere except commits.
Looking at the schema's comments, it seems that tag propagation (which
would be needed for tagging doc files) only applies to checkins, and i'm
not sure what change(s) would be needed to support that.

http://fossil-scm.org/index.html/artifact/cae75601dd0b3940bc192ff5a8b142d099bbc4e3?txt=1&ln=376-390

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Re: [fossil-users] "permuted index" doc-page: request for feedback (was: "Remove redundant shun links from doc page.")

2015-08-24 Thread Sergei Gavrikov
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015, Stephan Beal wrote:

> On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Michai Ramakers wrote:
>   Done in http://fossil-scm.org/index.html/info/49a77b5184ef2f5a ,
>   and for preview visit
> http://fossil-scm.org/index.html/doc/doc-bold-canonical/www/permutedindex.html
>
>
> IMO that is far less likely to confuse people than the current
> (permuted-only) page.

For my current screen resolution new design takes 7 PgDn, old - 5 PgDn
(something similar for "mice" scrolling). IMO, "Canonical Index" once
more duplicates "Permuted Index" and it would be enough for now just
to add a footnote for the title, "What Permuted Index is" or add the
very first item for the list

 Permuted Index:

 * 0 What Permuted Index is
 * 5 Minutes as a Single User — Update and Running in
 * ...

Two lists (C/P) look too long for human. Perhaps, Fossil documentation
reached the state when tag cloud https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tag_cloud
would be the next solution and we could have some  "horizontal" layout
for the "permuted index". But, all articles must have the precision set
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Re: [fossil-users] "permuted index" doc-page: request for feedback (was: "Remove redundant shun links from doc page.")

2015-08-24 Thread Stephan Beal
On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Michai Ramakers 
wrote:

> Done in http://fossil-scm.org/index.html/info/49a77b5184ef2f5a , and
> for preview visit
>
> http://fossil-scm.org/index.html/doc/doc-bold-canonical/www/permutedindex.html


IMO that is far less likely to confuse people than the current
(permuted-only) page.

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Re: [fossil-users] "permuted index" doc-page: request for feedback (was: "Remove redundant shun links from doc page.")

2015-08-24 Thread Michai Ramakers
On 17 August 2015 at 21:12, Michai Ramakers  wrote:
>
> Another suggestion was to move the list of canonical titles in front
> of the original permuted index - which sounds perfect to me.

Done in http://fossil-scm.org/index.html/info/49a77b5184ef2f5a , and
for preview visit
http://fossil-scm.org/index.html/doc/doc-bold-canonical/www/permutedindex.html
.

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Re: [fossil-users] problem with (svn) import

2015-08-24 Thread Gour
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 10:24:21 +0200
Stephan Beal  wrote:

> Please try again with the trunk. That seems to have been fixed
> recently:
> 
> http://fossil-scm.org/index.html/info/915d61933c0a3a4c

Thank you. It fixes the problem.


Sincerely,
Gour

p.s. Btw, I recenlty felt (again, for the 2nd time) pain in my right
wrist and decided to permanently settle on vim not wanting to arrive at
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Re: [fossil-users] problem with (svn) import

2015-08-24 Thread Stephan Beal
On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 9:55 AM, Gour  wrote:

> fossil: ./src/blob.c:276: blob_append: Assertion `aData!=0' failed.
>

Please try again with the trunk. That seems to have been fixed recently:

http://fossil-scm.org/index.html/info/915d61933c0a3a4c

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[fossil-users] problem with (svn) import

2015-08-24 Thread Gour
Hello,

Recently bought a book to learn Object Pascal and the code examples are
onine in Subversion repo...

Tried to convert to Fossil with the following sequence:

svnrdump  dump
http://code.marcocantu.com/svn_public/marcocantu_objectpascalhandbook >
oph.dump

fossil import --svn --flat oph.fossil ~/repos/external/oph.dump 

and 'fossil open looked fine'.

However, when I do 'fossil ui' and try 'Timeline' I get:

fossil: ./src/blob.c:276: blob_append: Assertion `aData!=0' failed.

Any idea?

Btw, repo is freely available online if someone wants to reproduce it...


Sincerely,
Gour

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