Re: [fossil-users] Show time...
On Sun, 3 Jun 2018 20:03:44 -0700 Jungle Boogie wrote: > This line: > SQLite project gets excellent 73:1 compression. $ fossil dbstat project-name: Osobne financije repository-size: 6,873,088 bytes artifact-count:2,578 (stored as 1,394 full text and 1,184 deltas) artifact-sizes:3,962,610 average, 13,965,692 max, 10,215,609,449 total compression-ratio: 1486:1 check-ins: 1,507 ... :-) Sincerely, Gour -- You have a right to perform your prescribed duty, but you are not entitled to the fruits of action. Never consider yourself the cause of the results of your activities, and never be attached to not doing your duty. ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Show time...
On Sun 03 Jun 2018 9:28 PM, Richard Hipp wrote: > There is suddenly a big uptick in traffic to fossil-scm.org, > apparently due to the recent GitHub rumor. Unlike that traditional > "slashdot effect", though, the referrals seem to be coming for a large > variety of sources. > > So, if anybody sees any last minute tidying up that we need to do to > the website in anticipation of a huge influx of first-time visitors, > please speak up. Quickly. On the homepage: Maybe a blurb about using sha3 in light of what happened with sha1. Link to reports and/or stats page: https://www.fossil-scm.org/index.html/reports This is not to show off how active fossil itself is, but Github projects have the insights tab easily available. > > -- > D. Richard Hipp > d...@sqlite.org ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Show time...
On Sun 03 Jun 2018 11:06 PM, Richard Hipp wrote: > On 6/3/18, Jungle Boogie wrote: > > On Sun 03 Jun 2018 10:47 PM, Richard Hipp wrote: > >> On 6/3/18, jungle Boogie wrote: > >> > > >> > Since it's linked from the homepage, maybe this can be updated to show > >> > that > >> > a) project website is still updated and b) to show fossil is still > >> > efficient. > >> > > >> > http://fossil-scm.org/index.html/doc/trunk/www/stats.wiki > >> > > >> > >> Updated. > > > > This line: > > SQLite project gets excellent 73:1 compression. > > > > Chart now shows 80:1! Perhaps just 73:1 or better? > > I got 80:1 on a fresh clone. You get something different? No, the text under 'Analysis And Supplemental Data' shows the older 73:1. > -- > D. Richard Hipp > d...@sqlite.org ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Show time...
On 6/3/18, Jungle Boogie wrote: > On Sun 03 Jun 2018 10:47 PM, Richard Hipp wrote: >> On 6/3/18, jungle Boogie wrote: >> > >> > Since it's linked from the homepage, maybe this can be updated to show >> > that >> > a) project website is still updated and b) to show fossil is still >> > efficient. >> > >> > http://fossil-scm.org/index.html/doc/trunk/www/stats.wiki >> > >> >> Updated. > > This line: > SQLite project gets excellent 73:1 compression. > > Chart now shows 80:1! Perhaps just 73:1 or better? I got 80:1 on a fresh clone. You get something different? -- D. Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Show time...
On Sun 03 Jun 2018 10:47 PM, Richard Hipp wrote: > On 6/3/18, jungle Boogie wrote: > > > > Since it's linked from the homepage, maybe this can be updated to show that > > a) project website is still updated and b) to show fossil is still > > efficient. > > > > http://fossil-scm.org/index.html/doc/trunk/www/stats.wiki > > > > Updated. This line: SQLite project gets excellent 73:1 compression. Chart now shows 80:1! Perhaps just 73:1 or better? > -- > D. Richard Hipp > d...@sqlite.org ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Show time...
On Sun 03 Jun 2018 9:28 PM, Richard Hipp wrote: > There is suddenly a big uptick in traffic to fossil-scm.org, > apparently due to the recent GitHub rumor. Unlike that traditional > "slashdot effect", though, the referrals seem to be coming for a large > variety of sources. > > So, if anybody sees any last minute tidying up that we need to do to > the website in anticipation of a huge influx of first-time visitors, > please speak up. Quickly. > Perhaps expand point #2 to talk about themes/skins built into fossil, and a link to the URL where the user can browse the examples. You might consider remove or moving the 'Fuel' link down the list. There sadly hasn't been an update to the repo since Oct 2015. > -- > D. Richard Hipp > d...@sqlite.org ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Show time...
On 6/3/18, Joseph R. Justice wrote: > > Neither is Git. > The point is that Fossil comes bundled with many of the same features as GitHub/GitLab. So the comparison is no so much of Fossil-vs-Git, but Fossil-vs-Git(Hub|Lab). -- D. Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Show time...
On 6/3/18, jungle Boogie wrote: > > Since it's linked from the homepage, maybe this can be updated to show that > a) project website is still updated and b) to show fossil is still > efficient. > > http://fossil-scm.org/index.html/doc/trunk/www/stats.wiki > Updated. -- D. Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Show time...
On Sun, Jun 3, 2018, 9:33 PM Richard Hipp wrote: > On 6/3/18, Richard Hipp wrote: > > > > So, if anybody sees any last minute tidying up that we need to do... > > For example, on the front page > (https://fossil-scm.org/index.html/doc/trunk/www/index.wiki), what if > I add some text to item 8 to talk about how Fossil is "Independent and > not beholden to venture capitalists". Too snarky? > Neither is Git. The Fossil-based competition to GitHub would be, for instance, Chiselapp (IIRC). I dare say that the greatest beneficiary of this stuff is likely to be Gitlab. Is anybody doing any serious for-profit Fossil repository hosting yet? Joseph ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Show time...
On 6:28PM, Sun, Jun 3, 2018 Richard Hipp wrote: > > There is suddenly a big uptick in traffic to fossil-scm.org, > apparently due to the recent GitHub rumor. Unlike that traditional > "slashdot effect", though, the referrals seem to be coming for a large > variety of sources. > > So, if anybody sees any last minute tidying up that we need to do to > the website in anticipation of a huge influx of first-time visitors, > please speak up. Quickly. > Since it's linked from the homepage, maybe this can be updated to show that a) project website is still updated and b) to show fossil is still efficient. http://fossil-scm.org/index.html/doc/trunk/www/stats.wiki > -- > D. Richard Hipp > d...@sqlite.org > ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Show time...
On 03/06/18 20:28, Richard Hipp wrote: > There is suddenly a big uptick in traffic to fossil-scm.org, > apparently due to the recent GitHub rumor. Unlike that traditional > "slashdot effect", though, the referrals seem to be coming for a large > variety of sources. > > So, if anybody sees any last minute tidying up that we need to do to > the website in anticipation of a huge influx of first-time visitors, > please speak up. Quickly. > I think that would be fine to compile some "Powered by Fossil" projects, for the upcoming show time. Maybe that could be a growing list. GitHub is mostly famous by the projects there and their network effect, not because of the inherent goodness of Git. We, using self hosted repositories don't have such central place for visibility and FossilSCM could be that place. Maybe a custom made form (also powered by the Fossil SQL capabilities) could collect repos info (project name, important urls, and maybe some extra comments). This, of course would not be for last minute adds, but to benefit from the increased interest on Fossil that will come with the centralization wave comming from MS+GitHub news. Cheers, Offray ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Show time...
On Mon, Jun 4, 2018, 03:33 Richard Hipp wrote: > On 6/3/18, Richard Hipp wrote: > > > > So, if anybody sees any last minute tidying up that we need to do... > > For example, on the front page > (https://fossil-scm.org/index.html/doc/trunk/www/index.wiki), what if > I add some text to item 8 to talk about how Fossil is "Independent and > not beholden to venture capitalists". Too snarky? > Murphy's Law suggests that the moment you post that the moment you post that, Microsoft, Google, or Oracle will make you an offer you can't refuse (and that statement will remain part of the fossilized record). - stephan Sent from a mobile device, possibly left-handed from bed. Please excuse brevity, typos, and top-posting. ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Show time...
Too snarky, IMHO. State the positive, let the reader figure the negative. Steve On 4 Jun 2018, 9:33 AM +0800, Richard Hipp , wrote: > On 6/3/18, Richard Hipp wrote: > > > > So, if anybody sees any last minute tidying up that we need to do... > > For example, on the front page > (https://fossil-scm.org/index.html/doc/trunk/www/index.wiki), what if > I add some text to item 8 to talk about how Fossil is "Independent and > not beholden to venture capitalists". Too snarky? > > -- > D. Richard Hipp > d...@sqlite.org > ___ > fossil-users mailing list > fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org > http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Show time...
On 6/3/18, Richard Hipp wrote: > > So, if anybody sees any last minute tidying up that we need to do... For example, on the front page (https://fossil-scm.org/index.html/doc/trunk/www/index.wiki), what if I add some text to item 8 to talk about how Fossil is "Independent and not beholden to venture capitalists". Too snarky? -- D. Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
[fossil-users] Show time...
There is suddenly a big uptick in traffic to fossil-scm.org, apparently due to the recent GitHub rumor. Unlike that traditional "slashdot effect", though, the referrals seem to be coming for a large variety of sources. So, if anybody sees any last minute tidying up that we need to do to the website in anticipation of a huge influx of first-time visitors, please speak up. Quickly. -- D. Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Rumor: Microsoft has acquired github
On 2018-06-04 02:24, Stephan Beal wrote: >>> It does kind of make sense: the global leader in creating >>> market-leading-yet-unusable software acquires one more piece of >>> market-leading-yet-unusable software. >> >>This appeals to my sense of order. :) > > Though, to be fair: github goes to great lengths to make git usable, but > with a piece of software so thoroughly misanthropic as git, one can only do > so much. Agreed. > We'll supposedly find out "on Monday" whether this rumor is true. It's > already Monday in my timezone, but the news outlets don't seem to care > about non-US timezones :/. Someone on twitter jested: "Sign in with your Office 365 account to access github.". I think there are a lot of people a gritting their teeth over that joke right now. -- Kind Regards, Jan Danielsson ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Rumor: Microsoft has acquired github
On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 2:08 AM, Jan Danielsson wrote: > On 2018-06-04 00:35, Stephan Beal wrote: > [---] > > It does kind of make sense: the global leader in creating > > market-leading-yet-unusable software acquires one more piece of > > market-leading-yet-unusable software. > >This appeals to my sense of order. :) > Though, to be fair: github goes to great lengths to make git usable, but with a piece of software so thoroughly misanthropic as git, one can only do so much. We'll supposedly find out "on Monday" whether this rumor is true. It's already Monday in my timezone, but the news outlets don't seem to care about non-US timezones :/. -- - stephan beal http://wanderinghorse.net/home/stephan/ "Freedom is sloppy. But since tyranny's the only guaranteed byproduct of those who insist on a perfect world, freedom will have to do." -- Bigby Wolf ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
Re: [fossil-users] Rumor: Microsoft has acquired github
On 2018-06-04 00:35, Stephan Beal wrote: [---] > It does kind of make sense: the global leader in creating > market-leading-yet-unusable software acquires one more piece of > market-leading-yet-unusable software. This appeals to my sense of order. :) -- Kind Regards, Jan Danielsson ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users
[fossil-users] Rumor: Microsoft has acquired github
This is currently just a rumor, but a juicy one which should interest some Fossil users: https://www.theverge.com/2018/6/3/17422752/microsoft-github-acquisition-rumors It does kind of make sense: the global leader in creating market-leading-yet-unusable software acquires one more piece of market-leading-yet-unusable software. -- - stephan beal http://wanderinghorse.net/home/stephan/ "Freedom is sloppy. But since tyranny's the only guaranteed byproduct of those who insist on a perfect world, freedom will have to do." -- Bigby Wolf ___ fossil-users mailing list fossil-users@lists.fossil-scm.org http://lists.fossil-scm.org:8080/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fossil-users