On Sat, Sep 06, 2014 at 06:05:33PM -0600, Scott Robison wrote:
On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Nico Williams n...@cryptonector.com wrote:
git branch -D name
Eh, filesystems let you delete files. Unlike most filesystems, git lets
you restore your deleted branches (yes, provided you
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 10:18 AM, John Long codeb...@inbox.lv wrote:
On Sat, Sep 06, 2014 at 06:05:33PM -0600, Scott Robison wrote:
On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Nico Williams n...@cryptonector.com wrote:
git branch -D name
Eh, filesystems let you delete files. Unlike most
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Nico Williams n...@cryptonector.com
wrote:
Nothing can really be made immutable, but you can detect mutation.
No. Version 9491ba7d738528f168657adb43a198238abde19e (the SQLite 3.8.6
release) cannot be modified in any way without changing its hash value,
thus
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 11:18 AM, Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org wrote:
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Nico Williams n...@cryptonector.com
wrote:
Nothing can really be made immutable, but you can detect mutation.
No. Version 9491ba7d738528f168657adb43a198238abde19e (the SQLite 3.8.6
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote:
No, he can't. Well, he can, but he will break the hashes of other records,
so any tamping will be noticed. Specifically, the Z- and R-cards detect any
sort of tampering.
Right. He can. If you've not pushed the
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 6:33 PM, Nico Williams n...@cryptonector.com
wrote:
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com
wrote:
No, he can't. Well, he can, but he will break the hashes of other
records,
so any tamping will be noticed. Specifically, the Z- and
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 12:18 PM, Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org wrote:
(Unless you can mount a pre-image attack against SHA1 - let's assume that
is impossible.)
FYI, FWIW, SHA1 seems to be deprecated. There was a summary on slashdot.org
about Google planning to change Chrome's default setting
On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 10:03 PM, Nico Williams n...@cryptonector.com
wrote:
To me the designed to forget comments seem like a
stretch.
git branch -D name
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- stephan beal
http://wanderinghorse.net/home/stephan/
http://gplus.to/sgbeal
Freedom is sloppy. But since tyranny's the only
On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 5:24 PM, Nico Williams n...@cryptonector.com wrote:
git branch -D name
Eh, filesystems let you delete files. Unlike most filesystems, git lets
you restore your deleted branches (yes, provided you don't gc the repo).
Then just use a file system and various command
On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 10:29 AM, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote:
Okay, more git bashing...
Seems like a lot of the complaints are the sorts of complaints you
would get about -say- laptops:
- it's easy to forget you left something on your laptop two flights
ago, when you had no
On Tue, 2 Sep 2014 08:07:48 -0600
Scott Robison sc...@casaderobison.com
wrote:
Interesting you should write this. One of my newest uses for fossil
is the one case in which I'm using it distributed (even though all by
myself): My blog (such as it is). It is not a unique idea at all, but
I
Hello,
On 3 September 2014 09:12, Gour g...@atmarama.net wrote:
On Tue, 2 Sep 2014 08:07:48 -0600
Scott Robison sc...@casaderobison.com
wrote:
Interesting you should write this. One of my newest uses for fossil
is the one case in which I'm using it distributed (even though all by
myself):
On Mon, 1 Sep 2014 17:29:41 +0200
Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote:
It occurred to me today that in nearly 31 years of using a computer i
have, in total, lost more data to git (while following the
instructions!!!) than any other single piece of software. Also
concluded is that git is
On Mon, Sep 01, 2014 at 05:29:41PM +0200, Stephan Beal wrote:
Okay, more git bashing...
Yeah. It's too easy _not_ to do.
Git is just another steaming Linux-centric pile that makes me so thankful
there are people like Dr. Hipp and you and all the fossil guys.
Consider the following points:
1)
On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 11:49 PM, Scott Robison sc...@casaderobison.com
wrote:
Based on reading {Stephan's message}, what do you agree or disagree with?
FWIW: i am in the small minority of my colleagues who regularly have
problems with git. They seem to be able to do the same things, click the
On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 10:08 AM, John Long codeb...@inbox.lv wrote:
specific shells like bash or any other proprietary (yes, I said it!) gnu
LOL!
8) Source control is not a hobby for normal healthy people.
Hey! ;)
You guys scored a huge win by creating fossil and basing it on
On Tue, 2 Sep 2014 08:08:41 +
John Long codeb...@inbox.lv wrote:
8) Source control is not a hobby for normal healthy people.
It's not something to become an expert in for chest-banging purposes.
It's a critical tool that's supposed to stay the hell out of the way
and let you write and
On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 2:44 AM, Gour g...@atmarama.net wrote:
9) Source control system is not only for keeping the code - here it's
used for very general writings (even non-computer-related). (too)
specific = selfish, universal = broad-minded.
Interesting you should write this. One of my
On 2 September 2014 10:08, John Long codeb...@inbox.lv wrote:
7) A source control system should be sensible from the point of view of the
person using it to manage source code. It should not be Linux-centric. It
should not require you to understand its internals to use it effectively
On 9/2/2014 09:00, Dömötör Gulyás wrote:
This is the main issue I have: git does not follow the principle of
least surprise. I'm sure it *can* do everything, if you know all of
the switches and gotchas. But you don't, even if you think you do.
Apparently many advanced git users have their
On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Scott Robison sc...@casaderobison.com
wrote:
It certainly wouldn't work in the same way git is used by the linux kernel
team.
Git was originally created by the Linux Kernel team, including Linus. It's
hardly surprising that git would be a better fir for them
On Tue, Sep 02, 2014 at 02:02:39PM -0400, Ron W wrote:
On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 10:18 AM, sky5w...@gmail.com wrote:
Can Fossil offer 2 solutions? SQLite based and PostgreSQL(insert big RDB
here)?
I think that the only way this will happen would be to fork Fossil into a
new project. This
On Sep 2, 2014 12:10 PM, Ron W ronw.m...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Scott Robison sc...@casaderobison.com
wrote:
It certainly wouldn't work in the same way git is used by the linux
kernel team.
Git was originally created by the Linux Kernel team, including Linus.
It's
On 9/1/2014 15:49, Scott Robison wrote:
the reasons I use fossil
have little to do with its distributed nature (though I'm using it more
often that way as time goes by).
A DVCS can be useful even to a lone developer. Several times since
switching from svn to Fossil, I've spent some of my
On Tue, Sep 02, 2014 at 12:08:22PM -0600, Warren Young wrote:
On 9/2/2014 09:00, Dömötör Gulyás wrote:
This is the main issue I have: git does not follow the principle of
least surprise. I'm sure it *can* do everything, if you know all of
the switches and gotchas. But you don't, even if you
On 9/2/2014 12:38, Joerg Sonnenberger wrote:
On Tue, Sep 02, 2014 at 12:08:22PM -0600, Warren Young wrote:
On 9/2/2014 09:00, Dömötör Gulyás wrote:
This is the main issue I have: git does not follow the principle of
least surprise.
Linus Torvalds is unique. No one else on the planet has a
On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 2:35 PM, Warren Young war...@etr-usa.com wrote:
If you have more than one computer connected to a VCS and at least one is
mobile, you should be using a DVCS. Fossil vs Git is a side issue, when it
comes to that.
I do and I use Fossil (no surprise there, right?)
On 9/2/2014 14:53, Ron W wrote:
On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 2:35 PM, Warren Young war...@etr-usa.com
mailto:war...@etr-usa.com wrote:
(This is also why I've been advocating for the uber-patch feature.
My experience with submitting patches (several different projects) has
been (a) each patch
On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 5:09 PM, Warren Young war...@etr-usa.com wrote:
I've been running an open source project for a decade now, so I can tell
you from experience that a lot of patches come in that do multiple things.
Apparently, the projects I've submitted patches to have stricter rules.
On 9/2/2014 16:07, Ron W wrote:
On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 5:09 PM, Warren Young war...@etr-usa.com
mailto:war...@etr-usa.com wrote:
I've been running an open source project for a decade now, so I can
tell you from experience that a lot of patches come in that do
multiple things.
Okay, more git bashing...
After losing 3 hours' work today from something as simple as git stash
save (where git stashed 3000+ untracked/generated files, despite the docs
saying it doesn't do that), then not being able to do stash apply
(because file already exists... for 3000+ files), and having
On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 9:29 AM, Stephan Beal sgb...@googlemail.com wrote:
Okay, more git bashing...
{snipped stuff went here}
It occurred to me today that in nearly 31 years of using a computer i
have, in total, lost more data to git (while following the instructions!!!)
than any other
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