Re: [fossil-users] Why do people create branches as a separate step? Was: Unable to sign manifest

2011-08-10 Thread Stephan Beal
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 4:50 AM, altufa...@mail.com wrote: It is more like a logical process. You want to work on something, create a branch, work on it and commit. If you have to create a branch when committing, you will have to remember if this is first commit in that branch or subsequent.

Re: [fossil-users] Why do people create branches as a separate step? Was: Unable to sign manifest

2011-08-10 Thread Ron Wilson
On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 2:47 PM, Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org wrote: On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Gé Weijers g...@weijers.org wrote: If you create the branch first you cannot forget later and commit to the wrong branch. I beg to differ!  Just this past Friday, I did three separate commits to

Re: [fossil-users] Why do people create branches as a separate step? Was: Unable to sign manifest

2011-08-10 Thread Richard Hipp
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Ron Wilson ronw.m...@gmail.com wrote: $ fossil branch next espresso-feature That's an interesting feature request. I'll take it under consideration... What about allowing a null commit on branch? That way, fossil commit -branch new-branch

Re: [fossil-users] Why do people create branches as a separate step? Was: Unable to sign manifest

2011-08-10 Thread Will Duquette
On Aug 9, 2011, at 7:58 AM, Richard Hipp wrote: Change the subject: Please help me to understand why people want to create a new branch before adding changes to that branch, rather than just waiting until they check-in their edits? I'm not being sarcastic or critical here. A lot of

Re: [fossil-users] Why do people create branches as a separate step? Was: Unable to sign manifest

2011-08-10 Thread Stephan Beal
On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 1:35 AM, Will Duquette w...@wjduquette.com wrote: ...development context. If I create the new branch explicitly, then I've changed my development context in my head AND in my work area. Thank you for so elegantly describing what i was unable to express nearly as well

Re: [fossil-users] Why do people create branches as a separate step? Was: Unable to sign manifest

2011-08-10 Thread Steve Landers
On 11/08/2011, at 8:02 AM, Stephan Beal wrote: On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 1:35 AM, Will Duquette w...@wjduquette.com wrote: ...development context. If I create the new branch explicitly, then I've changed my development context in my head AND in my work area. Thank you for so elegantly

Re: [fossil-users] Why do people create branches as a separate step? Was: Unable to sign manifest

2011-08-09 Thread Gour-Gadadhara Dasa
On Tue, 9 Aug 2011 10:58:02 -0400 Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org wrote: Please help me to understand why people want to create a new branch before adding changes to that branch, rather than just waiting until they check-in their edits? I'm not being sarcastic or critical here. A lot of people

Re: [fossil-users] Why do people create branches as a separate step? Was: Unable to sign manifest

2011-08-09 Thread Ambrose Bonnaire-Sergeant
Personally, this is a habit I bring from git, mainly because I'm not aware of any other way to doing things. I was not aware of fossil commit -branch new-branch, seems like a much better alternative. Half the time I start hacking on something, then oh, darn I should have started a branch before

Re: [fossil-users] Why do people create branches as a separate step? Was: Unable to sign manifest

2011-08-09 Thread Joshua Paine
On 8/9/2011 10:58 AM, Richard Hipp wrote: Change the subject: Please help me to understand why people want to create a new branch before adding changes to that branch, rather than just waiting until they check-in their edits? In SVN (and possibly others), you have to create the branch first.

Re: [fossil-users] Why do people create branches as a separate step? Was: Unable to sign manifest

2011-08-09 Thread Joshua Paine
On 8/9/2011 11:04 AM, Gour-Gadadhara Dasa wrote: Maybe the way how other DVCS work? Which DVCS can create branch along with the commit? I was thinking it was possible and I had done it in git, but I don't remember how or see it in the documentation, so I think I was mistaken. -- Joshua Paine

Re: [fossil-users] Why do people create branches as a separate step? Was: Unable to sign manifest

2011-08-09 Thread Matt Welland
I often am planning a change or thinking ahead and will create the branch to record my intentions before I've started coding. I do like the ability to checkin changes to a branch but would generally not intentionally use it out of the risk of forgetting that my changes are intended for a branch

Re: [fossil-users] Why do people create branches as a separate step? Was: Unable to sign manifest

2011-08-09 Thread Joshua Paine
On 8/9/2011 11:19 AM, Matt Welland wrote: Note: It is annoying to me that fossil branch new foo won't simply branch from the current node. +1 By the way, how does update differ from co in your step 2 below? If you have no edited files, they have the same effect. But if you have some edits

Re: [fossil-users] Why do people create branches as a separate step? Was: Unable to sign manifest

2011-08-09 Thread Stephan Beal
On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 4:58 PM, Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org wrote: That seems like so much more trouble. What am I missing? Is it that people are unaware that they can make edits that are destined to go into a branch before that branch actually In my experience it's that when i know i've

Re: [fossil-users] Why do people create branches as a separate step? Was: Unable to sign manifest

2011-08-09 Thread Konstantin Khomoutov
On Tue, 9 Aug 2011 17:04:04 +0200 Gour-Gadadhara Dasa g...@atmarama.net wrote: Please help me to understand why people want to create a new branch before adding changes to that branch, rather than just waiting until they check-in their edits? I'm not being sarcastic or critical here. A

Re: [fossil-users] Why do people create branches as a separate step? Was: Unable to sign manifest

2011-08-09 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Tue, Aug 09, 2011 at 10:58:02AM -0400, Richard Hipp wrote: On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 10:28 AM, tpero...@compumation.com tpero...@compumation.com wrote: Change the subject: Please help me to understand why people want to create a new branch before adding changes to that branch, rather than

Re: [fossil-users] Why do people create branches as a separate step? Was: Unable to sign manifest

2011-08-09 Thread Konstantin Khomoutov
On Tue, 9 Aug 2011 08:19:46 -0700 Matt Welland estifo...@gmail.com wrote: I often am planning a change or thinking ahead and will create the branch to record my intentions before I've started coding. I do like the ability to checkin changes to a branch but would generally not intentionally

Re: [fossil-users] Why do people create branches as a separate step? Was: Unable to sign manifest

2011-08-09 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Tue, Aug 09, 2011 at 11:06:23PM +0800, Ambrose Bonnaire-Sergeant wrote: Personally, this is a habit I bring from git, mainly because I'm not aware of any other way to doing things. I was not aware of fossil commit -branch new-branch, seems like a much better alternative. Half the time

Re: [fossil-users] Why do people create branches as a separate step? Was: Unable to sign manifest

2011-08-09 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Tue, Aug 09, 2011 at 11:27:09AM -0400, Joshua Paine wrote: On 8/9/2011 11:19 AM, Matt Welland wrote: Note: It is annoying to me that fossil branch new foo won't simply branch from the current node. +1 By the way, how does update differ from co in your step 2 below? If you have no

Re: [fossil-users] Why do people create branches as a separate step? Was: Unable to sign manifest

2011-08-09 Thread Brian Cottingham
I agree with the others, I usually start a branch as a part of the process of working on some new feature. It just feels more organized than remembering to decide what branch to use when I finally commit, or changing the branch after the fact. 2011/8/9 Lluís Batlle i Rossell virik...@gmail.com

Re: [fossil-users] Why do people create branches as a separate step? Was: Unable to sign manifest

2011-08-09 Thread Ron Wilson
On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org wrote: The way I've *always* done things is:     (1)  ... edit files     (2)  fossil commit -branch new-branch But I see many people want to do a 4-step process:     (1)  fossil branch new new-branch     (2)  fossil update

Re: [fossil-users] Why do people create branches as a separate step? Was: Unable to sign manifest

2011-08-09 Thread Matt Welland
On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 9:25 AM, Ron Wilson ronw.m...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Richard Hipp d...@sqlite.org wrote: The way I've *always* done things is: (1) ... edit files (2) fossil commit -branch new-branch But I see many people want to do a 4-step

Re: [fossil-users] Why do people create branches as a separate step? Was: Unable to sign manifest

2011-08-09 Thread tpero...@compumation.com
So, how do you move commits in the trunk to a new branch after the fact. Thanks, Tony Perovic -Original Message- From: fossil-users-boun...@lists.fossil-scm.org [mailto:fossil-users-boun...@lists.fossil-scm.org] On Behalf Of Joshua Paine Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 10:10 AM To:

Re: [fossil-users] Why do people create branches as a separate step? Was: Unable to sign manifest

2011-08-09 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Tue, Aug 09, 2011 at 01:01:55PM -0500, tpero...@compumation.com wrote: So, how do you move commits in the trunk to a new branch after the fact. Open the UI, click the checkin, then edit... and check the part about starts a new branch. Regards, Lluís. -Original Message- From:

Re: [fossil-users] Why do people create branches as a separate step? Was: Unable to sign manifest

2011-08-09 Thread Brian Cottingham
Is there a way to do in from the command line? 2011/8/9 Lluís Batlle i Rossell virik...@gmail.com On Tue, Aug 09, 2011 at 01:01:55PM -0500, tpero...@compumation.com wrote: So, how do you move commits in the trunk to a new branch after the fact. Open the UI, click the checkin, then edit...

Re: [fossil-users] Why do people create branches as a separate step? Was: Unable to sign manifest

2011-08-09 Thread Gé Weijers
On Tue, 9 Aug 2011, Richard Hipp wrote: Change the subject:  Please help me to understand why people want to create a new branch before adding changes to that branch, rather than just waiting until they check-in their edits?  I'm not being sarcastic or critical here.  A lot of people do

Re: [fossil-users] Why do people create branches as a separate step? Was: Unable to sign manifest

2011-08-09 Thread Lluís Batlle i Rossell
On Tue, Aug 09, 2011 at 11:33:19AM -0700, Gé Weijers wrote: On Tue, 9 Aug 2011, Richard Hipp wrote: Change the subject:  Please help me to understand why people want to create a new branch before adding changes to that branch, rather than just waiting until they check-in their edits? 

Re: [fossil-users] Why do people create branches as a separate step? Was: Unable to sign manifest

2011-08-09 Thread Gé Weijers
On Tue, 9 Aug 2011, Lluís Batlle i Rossell wrote: If you could just tell fossil that you intend to commit to a new branch from the current workspace/checkout creating that extra commit object could be avoided without risking a commit to the wrong branch. You can *later* change the branch,

Re: [fossil-users] Why do people create branches as a separate step? Was: Unable to sign manifest

2011-08-09 Thread Gé Weijers
On Tue, 9 Aug 2011, Richard Hipp wrote: On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Gé Weijers g...@weijers.org wrote: If you create the branch first you cannot forget later and commit to the wrong branch. I beg to differ!  Just this past Friday, I did three separate commits to SQLite that went

Re: [fossil-users] Why do people create branches as a separate step? Was: Unable to sign manifest

2011-08-09 Thread altufaltu
It is more like a logical process. You want to work on something, create a branch, work on it and commit. If you have to create a branch when committing, you will have to remember if this is first commit in that branch or subsequent. You commandline will also be different for first commit that