[Foundation-l] Information about 2009 Board of Trustees election

2009-05-27 Thread philippe
Information concerning the election rules, candidacy, and suffrage/ voting requirements for the 2009 election to the Board of Trustees is now posted at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board_elections/2009/en. I have copied it below, but for the wiki-links to work, you will - of course -

Re: [Foundation-l] Information about 2009 Board of Trustees election

2009-05-27 Thread Ting Chen
Hello Philippe, I thought this year three candidates would be elected. Ting philippe wrote: Information concerning the election rules, candidacy, and suffrage/ voting requirements for the 2009 election to the Board of Trustees is now posted at

[Foundation-l] Third-party GFDL text irrevocably incompatible with Wikipedia as of August 1

2009-05-27 Thread Samuel Klein
Hello, The relicensing process is underway. This means we have only 2 months to help GFDL wikis that want Wikipedia compatibility to follow suit. The clause that allows GFDL wikis to be relicensed to CC-BY-SA 3 expires on August 1 of this year. I am crossposting this from the licensing thread

Re: [Foundation-l] Goodbye

2009-05-27 Thread Chris Down
Thanks for your fantastic work across the board. I do hope that this goodbye only marks an end of formal involvement, and that you can still come along from time to time. :) - Chris On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 6:50 PM, Michael Bimmler mbimm...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, I would like to use this

Re: [Foundation-l] Third-party GFDL text irrevocably incompatible with Wikipedia as of August 1

2009-05-27 Thread Newyorkbrad (Wikipedia)
Thanks for circulating this. Not to create a self-fulfilling prophecy here, but I suspect that 90% or more of those affected by this issue will not care or will not understand the urgency, and they will not do anything, either on their own sites or on-wiki. What are the practical implications of

Re: [Foundation-l] Third-party GFDL text irrevocably incompatible with Wikipedia as of August 1

2009-05-27 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/5/27 Newyorkbrad (Wikipedia) newyorkb...@gmail.com: Thanks for circulating this. Not to create a self-fulfilling prophecy here, but I suspect that 90% or more of those affected by this issue will not care or will not understand the urgency, and they will not do anything, either on their

Re: [Foundation-l] Third-party GFDL text irrevocably incompatible with Wikipedia as of August 1

2009-05-27 Thread geni
2009/5/27 Newyorkbrad (Wikipedia) newyorkb...@gmail.com: Thanks for circulating this. Not to create a self-fulfilling prophecy here, but I suspect that 90% or more of those affected by this issue will not care or will not understand the urgency, and they will not do anything, either on their

Re: [Foundation-l] Third-party GFDL text irrevocably incompatible with Wikipedia as of August 1

2009-05-27 Thread effe iets anders
as long as they convert /before/ the deadline... lodewijk 2009/5/27 Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com: 2009/5/27 Newyorkbrad (Wikipedia) newyorkb...@gmail.com: Thanks for circulating this. Not to create a self-fulfilling prophecy here, but I suspect that 90% or more of those affected by

Re: [Foundation-l] Third-party GFDL text irrevocably incompatible with Wikipedia as of August 1

2009-05-27 Thread Fred Bauder
Hello, The relicensing process is underway. This means we have only 2 months to help GFDL wikis that want Wikipedia compatibility to follow suit. The clause that allows GFDL wikis to be relicensed to CC-BY-SA 3 expires on August 1 of this year. I am crossposting this from the licensing

Re: [Foundation-l] Information about 2009 Board of Trustees election

2009-05-27 Thread effe iets anders
Hm, that was also the information I got :) Besides that, I personally feel that one week in the middle of the vacation is somewhat short for an internet election. Is there an urgent reason not to have it for two weeks? And good luck to count and confirm the votes within two days time! :o I'd find

Re: [Foundation-l] Third-party GFDL text irrevocably incompatible with Wikipedia as of August 1

2009-05-27 Thread Samuel Klein
Brad : the practical implications are that we will lose the ability to copy work from a set of familiar collaborative sites -- many of which chose their license specifically to facilitate long-term exchange with Wikipedia -- and they will slowly lose access to the latest WP updates over months or

Re: [Foundation-l] Third-party GFDL text irrevocably incompatible with Wikipedia as of August 1

2009-05-27 Thread Samuel Klein
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 8:54 AM, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote: The relicensing process is underway.  This means we have only 2 months to help GFDL wikis that want Wikipedia compatibility to follow suit. The clause that allows GFDL wikis to be relicensed to CC-BY-SA 3 expires on

Re: [Foundation-l] Third-party GFDL text irrevocably incompatible with Wikipedia as of August 1

2009-05-27 Thread Newyorkbrad (Wikipedia)
The point I was making is that I expect people will continue importing and exporting as per past practice with no attention given to the issue and few people caring. From a legal point of view that's not optimal, but I think it's highly likely. Who set the August 1 deadline and who has the power

Re: [Foundation-l] Third-party GFDL text irrevocably incompatible with Wikipedia as of August 1

2009-05-27 Thread effe iets anders
2009/5/27 Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com: Brad : the practical implications are that we will lose the ability to copy work from a set of familiar collaborative sites -- many of which chose their license specifically to facilitate long-term exchange with Wikipedia -- and they will slowly lose

Re: [Foundation-l] Third-party GFDL text irrevocably incompatible with Wikipedia as of August 1

2009-05-27 Thread effe iets anders
2009/5/27 Newyorkbrad (Wikipedia) newyorkb...@gmail.com: The point I was making is that I expect people will continue importing and exporting as per past practice with no attention given to the issue and few people caring. From a legal point of view that's not optimal, but I think it's highly

Re: [Foundation-l] Information about 2009 Board of Trustees election

2009-05-27 Thread Al Tally
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Newyorkbrad (Wikipedia) newyorkb...@gmail.com wrote: Is an Elections Committee being appointed, or has one been? Newyorkbrad Yes, see http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Board_elections/2009/Committee/en#Membership Regards, -- Alex (User:Majorly)

Re: [Foundation-l] Goodbye

2009-05-27 Thread Florence Devouard
Michael Bimmler wrote: Dear all, I would like to use this opportunity to say Goodbye to all of you, because my involvement with Wikimedia is now coming to an end. I could make this a long email, taking about my time here and giving my opinion and advice about the state and future of the

Re: [Foundation-l] Information about 2009 Board of Trustees election

2009-05-27 Thread philippe
The reason not to have it in two weeks is that it generally takes longer than that to effectively translate both the policy pages and the candidate statements to allow as many people to participate in as many languages as possible. Two weeks would almost guarantee a primarily

Re: [Foundation-l] Information about 2009 Board of Trustees election

2009-05-27 Thread Angela
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 1:54 AM, philippe philippe.w...@gmail.com wrote: The reason not to have it in two weeks is that it generally takes longer than that to effectively translate both the policy pages and the candidate statements to allow as many people to participate in as many languages as

Re: [Foundation-l] (sin asunto)

2009-05-27 Thread Michael Bimmler
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Re: [Foundation-l] Information about 2009 Board of Trustees election

2009-05-27 Thread effe iets anders
2009/5/27 Angela bees...@gmail.com: On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 1:54 AM, philippe philippe.w...@gmail.com wrote: The reason not to have it in two weeks is that it generally takes longer than that to effectively translate both the policy pages and the candidate statements to allow as many people to

Re: [Foundation-l] Information about 2009 Board of Trustees election

2009-05-27 Thread philippe
Ah, OK, sorry for my misunderstanding of the question. Indeed, we had that same discussion amongst the committee. In the end, the vote timing is driven by Wikimania and the need to purchase tickets for the new trustees-designate to get there (at a reasonable price, which usually requires a

Re: [Foundation-l] Information about 2009 Board of Trustees election

2009-05-27 Thread philippe
I'm certainly not empowered to say yes or no to that on my own, but I'll carry it back to the committee and see what the feeling there is. :-) Philippe ___ philippe On May 27, 2009, at 11:29 AM, Newyorkbrad (Wikipedia) wrote: Would a 10-day period (including two

Re: [Foundation-l] Information about 2009 Board of Trustees election

2009-05-27 Thread effe iets anders
But last year was earlier :) Not in the very middle of the vacation. Lodewijk 2009/5/27 philippe philippe.w...@gmail.com: Ah, OK, sorry for my misunderstanding of the question. Indeed, we had that same discussion amongst the committee.  In the end, the vote timing is driven by Wikimania and

Re: [Foundation-l] Information about 2009 Board of Trustees election

2009-05-27 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
I'm certainly not empowered to say yes or no to that on my own, but I'll carry it back to the committee and see what the feeling there is. :-) That would be very much appreciated. Many of us will be traveling in August. Cheers Yaroslav ___

Re: [Foundation-l] Information about 2009 Board of Trustees election

2009-05-27 Thread Robert Rohde
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 9:16 AM, philippe philippe.w...@gmail.com wrote: Ah, OK, sorry for my misunderstanding of the question. Indeed, we had that same discussion amongst the committee.  In the end, the vote timing is driven by Wikimania and the need to purchase tickets for the new

Re: [Foundation-l] Information about 2009 Board of Trustees election

2009-05-27 Thread Robert Rohde
Have you discussed software requirements with developers? I'm not sure the new SecurePoll software is yet set up to allow for preferential voting (either on the input side or the tallying side). Also, we had a number of problems with tallying [1]. Some of which was a result of essentially

Re: [Foundation-l] Information about 2009 Board of Trustees election

2009-05-27 Thread philippe
My understanding is that SecurePoll can handle the type of vote we're dealing with, but I'll certainly double-check based on your comments. Thanks for the heads-up. ___ philippe philippe.w...@gmail.com Administrator, OTRS Volunteer [[en:User:Philippe]] On May 27, 2009, at

Re: [Foundation-l] Information about 2009 Board of Trustees election

2009-05-27 Thread philippe
I have checked and can confirm that we are dealing with THREE seats. It was a cut/paste error (from last year's document to this year's), for which I take full responsibility. I'm updating the documentation now. :-) Philippe ___ Philippe Beaudette

Re: [Foundation-l] Information about 2009 Board of Trustees election

2009-05-27 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi,SecurePoll is being localised at translatewiki.net. At this moment there are 35 languages ready for this vote and for 65 languages there is some localisation. Please check out if your community will be enabled by the software to vote. Thanks, GerardM ar العربية 100.00% 0.00% be-tarask

Re: [Foundation-l] Licensing resolution

2009-05-27 Thread Benj. Mako Hill
quote who=Samuel Klein date=Fri, May 22, 2009 at 10:05:10AM -0400 There are hundreds of educational sites with excellent material that have chosen their current GFDL license in order to be compatible with Wikipedia. Some of them will not be able to decide to switch licensing terms by August

Re: [Foundation-l] Licensing resolution

2009-05-27 Thread Mike Linksvayer
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Benj. Mako Hill m...@atdot.cc wrote: I'm happy to see that work is already being coordinated here:  http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Licensing_update/Outreach As many people as possible should join in this effort and spread the word.

Re: [Foundation-l] Licensing resolution

2009-05-27 Thread Anthony
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Benj. Mako Hill m...@atdot.cc wrote: This is very important. Wikis licensed under the GFDL after August 1st will not be compatible with Wikimedia wikis. Those wikis will sometimes be able to pull from Wikimedia projects but will never be able to merge their

Re: [Foundation-l] Licensing resolution

2009-05-27 Thread Anthony
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 8:18 PM, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote: On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Benj. Mako Hill m...@atdot.cc wrote: This is very important. Wikis licensed under the GFDL after August 1st will not be compatible with Wikimedia wikis. Those wikis will sometimes be able to

Re: [Foundation-l] Information about 2009 Board of Trustees election

2009-05-27 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The numbers do not read that well. Try this in stead.. http://translatewiki.net/wiki/Temp Thanks, GerardM 2009/5/27 Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com Hoi,SecurePoll is being localised at translatewiki.net. At this moment there are 35 languages ready for this vote and for 65

Re: [Foundation-l] Information about 2009 Board of Trustees election

2009-05-27 Thread Ray Saintonge
Robert Rohde wrote: On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 9:16 AM, philippe philippe.w...@gmail.com wrote: Ah, OK, sorry for my misunderstanding of the question. Indeed, we had that same discussion amongst the committee. In the end, the vote timing is driven by Wikimania and the need to purchase

Re: [Foundation-l] Third-party GFDL text irrevocably incompatible with Wikipedia as of August 1

2009-05-27 Thread Ray Saintonge
Newyorkbrad (Wikipedia) wrote: The point I was making is that I expect people will continue importing and exporting as per past practice with no attention given to the issue and few people caring. From a legal point of view that's not optimal, but I think it's highly likely. That's a

Re: [Foundation-l] Third-party GFDL text irrevocably incompatible with Wikipedia as of August 1

2009-05-27 Thread Ray Saintonge
effe iets anders wrote: Which makes me wonder how a judge would rule on this btw. Because if the GFDL and CCBYSA are enough similar before the deadline to interchange, why wouldn't they be afterwards? Except for that line in the GFDL version, I don't see legal reasoning behind that... So just

Re: [Foundation-l] Third-party GFDL text irrevocably incompatible with Wikipedia as of August 1

2009-05-27 Thread Samuel Klein
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 1:30 AM, Ray Saintonge sainto...@telus.net wrote: Newyorkbrad (Wikipedia) wrote: The point I was making is that I expect people will continue importing and exporting as per past practice with no attention given to the issue and few people caring. From a legal point of