Re: [Foundation-l] FlaggedRevisions status (March 2010)

2010-03-04 Thread MZMcBride
Erik Moeller wrote: We're very thankful for Aaron's hard work on the FlaggedRevs extension over the years; it's really almost entirely due to him that the extension is now in active use in more than 20 wikis, with more than 1M pages patrolled in dewiki alone. That's an amazing achievement for

Re: [Foundation-l] FlaggedRevisions status (March 2010)

2010-03-04 Thread Chad
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 12:44 AM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: 2010/3/1 Austin Hair adh...@gmail.com: I think it would be great if someone on the project could put the initial tone aside, turn the other cheek, and let everyone interested (and I know there are several) know what's

Re: [Foundation-l] FlaggedRevisions status (March 2010)

2010-03-04 Thread K. Peachey
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 11:33 PM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: I'm curious as to whether there's anything official behind this poll[1] on en.wikipedia to simply turn on flagged revs in the form that the Germans use it until the proposed enwiki changes are ready. -Chad [1]

Re: [Foundation-l] FlaggedRevisions status (March 2010)

2010-03-04 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The answer is already given ... When it is done. You have been informed with the latest developments.. so you know the existing issues. Thanks, GerardM 2010/3/4 MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com Erik Moeller wrote: We're very thankful for Aaron's hard work on the FlaggedRevs extension

Re: [Foundation-l] FlaggedRevisions status (March 2010)

2010-03-04 Thread Stephen Bain
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 12:51 AM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: The answer is already given ... When it is done. You have been informed with the latest developments.. so you know the existing issues. That's normally the perfect answer, but the point of this discussion is that

Re: [Foundation-l] Texas Instruments signing key controversy

2010-03-04 Thread Dan Rosenthal
You've identified one of the criticisms of OCILLA/DMCA -- that it can be easily abused by copyright holder to keep stuff offline. (This is what the EFF is probably getting involved over). However, the proper response to that is for the alleged infringer to request sanctions against the copyright

Re: [Foundation-l] Building up the reserves

2010-03-04 Thread effe iets anders
hm, wouldn't that be more a question that would suit more the board? It seems a rather strategic one. Lodewijk 2010/3/4 Geoffrey Plourde geo.p...@yahoo.com Veronique, what would be the maximum we'd want to go with a reserve fund. I know that with Army Emergency Relief for example, they get

Re: [Foundation-l] FlaggedRevisions status (March 2010)

2010-03-04 Thread William Pietri
Hi, Stephen. Thanks for making your point in a polite, low-drama way. On 03/04/2010 05:58 AM, Stephen Bain wrote: The answer is already given ... When it is done. You have been informed with the latest developments.. so you know the existing issues. That's normally the perfect answer,

Re: [Foundation-l] FlaggedRevisions status (March 2010)

2010-03-04 Thread MZMcBride
William Pietri wrote: Instead, I think the right approach is to put new software out there frequently, so people can try it out for themselves and form their own opinions of how close we are. Eventually, both the builders and the community will agree that there's something worth shipping. And

Re: [Foundation-l] Building up the reserves

2010-03-04 Thread William Pietri
On 03/03/2010 06:41 PM, Veronique Kessler wrote: Hi, The question of what is the right reserve amount is a common one. I've hear of ranges from 0 to 3 months to 3 years. I agree that one year is a good measure and that could be increased or decreased depending on a variety of circumstances

Re: [Foundation-l] FlaggedRevisions status (March 2010)

2010-03-04 Thread David Gerard
On 4 March 2010 17:20, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Also, David Gerard made a suggestion about weekly updates that concretely list the progress that's being made with regard to FlaggedRevs development. William has mentioned there are software checkins, etc. in progress. Even a list of

Re: [Foundation-l] FlaggedRevisions status (March 2010)

2010-03-04 Thread William Pietri
On 03/04/2010 09:20 AM, MZMcBride wrote: William Pietri wrote: Instead, I think the right approach is to put new software out there frequently, so people can try it out for themselves and form their own opinions of how close we are. Eventually, both the builders and the community will

Re: [Foundation-l] FlaggedRevisions status (March 2010)

2010-03-04 Thread William Pietri
On 03/04/2010 09:59 AM, David Gerard wrote: William has mentioned there are software checkins, etc. in progress. Even a list of those would be excellent stuff. This appears to be the best source: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/author/aaron William

Re: [Foundation-l] FlaggedRevisions status (March 2010)

2010-03-04 Thread Chad
Even better is [1], since it includes commits to FlaggedRevs other than Aaron's. -Chad [1] http://mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki?path=/trunk/extensions/FlaggedRevs On Mar 4, 2010 1:20 PM, William Pietri will...@scissor.com wrote: On 03/04/2010 09:59 AM, David Gerard wrote: William

Re: [Foundation-l] FlaggedRevisions status (March 2010)

2010-03-04 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
William Pietri wrote: On 03/04/2010 09:20 AM, MZMcBride wrote: William Pietri wrote: Instead, I think the right approach is to put new software out there frequently, so people can try it out for themselves and form their own opinions of how close we are. Eventually, both the

Re: [Foundation-l] FlaggedRevisions status (March 2010)

2010-03-04 Thread William Pietri
On 03/04/2010 10:57 AM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote: Purely as a point of fact it is simply inaccurate that the 20 implementations of flagged revs and patrolled edits across the other wikies than English Wikipedia are monolithically identical. I know this firsthand. Sorry if I gave that

Re: [Foundation-l] Building up the reserves

2010-03-04 Thread Andrew Gray
On 3 March 2010 20:53, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk wrote: mid-2007 - - - - - $1m end-2007 - - - - - $2.3m - - - - - $0.21m - - - - - 11 mos. mid-2008 - - - - - $3m - - - - - ($0.32m) - - - - - 9 mos. end-2008 - - - - - $6.7m - - - - - $0.43m - - - - - 15 mos. mid-2009 - - - - -

Re: [Foundation-l] FlaggedRevisions status (March 2010)

2010-03-04 Thread Mike.lifeguard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 37-01--10 03:59 PM, William Pietri wrote: we think there are some interface changes are going to improve both the user experience and the value of the enwiki trial. Why did it take this request from enwiki to have the UX aspect of flagged

Re: [Foundation-l] FlaggedRevisions status (March 2010)

2010-03-04 Thread William Pietri
On 03/04/2010 01:45 PM, Mike.lifeguard wrote: Why did it take this request from enwiki to have the UX aspect of flagged revisions taken seriously? This has been one of the main complaints about the implementation since day zero. All other complaints I've heard have been regarding the idea,

Re: [Foundation-l] FlaggedRevisions status (March 2010)

2010-03-04 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
William Pietri wrote: On 03/04/2010 10:57 AM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote: Purely as a point of fact it is simply inaccurate that the 20 implementations of flagged revs and patrolled edits across the other wikies than English Wikipedia are monolithically identical. I know this firsthand.

Re: [Foundation-l] Texas Instruments signing key controversy

2010-03-04 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote: Dan Rosenthal wrote: You've identified one of the criticisms of OCILLA/DMCA -- that it can be easily abused by copyright holder to keep stuff offline. (This is what the EFF is probably getting involved over). However, the proper response to that is for the alleged

Re: [Foundation-l] Texas Instruments signing key controversy

2010-03-04 Thread George Herbert
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 2:38 PM, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen cimonav...@gmail.com wrote: Jussi-Ville Heiskanen wrote: Dan Rosenthal wrote: You've identified one of the criticisms of OCILLA/DMCA -- that it can be easily abused by copyright holder to keep stuff offline. (This is what the EFF is

Re: [Foundation-l] FlaggedRevisions status (March 2010)

2010-03-04 Thread Anthony
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 8:33 AM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: I'm curious as to whether there's anything official behind this poll[1] on en.wikipedia to simply turn on flagged revs in the form that the Germans use it until the proposed enwiki changes are ready. Is it even technically

Re: [Foundation-l] FlaggedRevisions status (March 2010)

2010-03-04 Thread Anthony
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 7:43 PM, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote: On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 8:33 AM, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: I'm curious as to whether there's anything official behind this poll[1] on en.wikipedia to simply turn on flagged revs in the form that the Germans use it

Re: [Foundation-l] Building up the reserves

2010-03-04 Thread Anthony
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 4:15 PM, Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.ukwrote: presumably, it gets a little tighter right before the fundraisers. In 2009 it was tightest end of september/beginning of october. In October and November, revenues exceeded expenses. That's a great chart (*) by the