Re: [Foundation-l] Wiki Travel Guide

2012-04-09 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Dear James, In general the idea sounds interesting, and Wikitravel is certainly one of the notable wiki community projects. But I am not sure whether Wikitravel (or the content it provides) fit into the scope of Wikimedia. Is it really 'educational' content? Kind regards Ziko 2012/4/9 James

Re: [Foundation-l] Wiki Travel Guide

2012-04-09 Thread Patricio Molina
On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 12:19 PM, Ziko van Dijk vand...@wmnederland.nl wrote: I am not sure whether Wikitravel (or the content it provides) fit into the scope of Wikimedia. Is it really 'educational' content? Hum... I thought this project was adequate for Wikimedia, but now I'm having some

Re: [Foundation-l] Wiki Travel Guide

2012-04-09 Thread Pharos
I think I would consider it educational. Travel itself is an educational experience, and a fuller travel experience enabled by the sharing of Wikimedia-style free knowledge all the more so :) Thanks, Richard (User:Pharos) On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Patricio Molina patriciomol...@gmail.com

Re: [Foundation-l] Wiki Travel Guide

2012-04-09 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Consider the number of links that are possible from a travel experience to an encyclopaedic experience .. !! Travelling has always been considered educational. Thanks, Gerard On 9 April 2012 18:39, Pharos pharosofalexand...@gmail.com wrote: I think I would consider it educational.

Re: [Foundation-l] Wiki Travel Guide

2012-04-09 Thread Dan Rosenthal
One of the most useful articles on Wikitravel that I've found is an outline of different Bavarian beers, and which groups they are popular with in Bavaria. I refer back to it regularly. I can't say I see the not educational argument. Dan Rosenthal On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 7:46 PM, Gerard Meijssen

Re: [Foundation-l] Wiki Travel Guide

2012-04-09 Thread aude
On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 6:59 PM, Dan Rosenthal swatjes...@gmail.com wrote: One of the most useful articles on Wikitravel that I've found is an outline of different Bavarian beers, and which groups they are popular with in Bavaria. I refer back to it regularly. I can't say I see the not

Re: [Foundation-l] Wiki Travel Guide

2012-04-09 Thread Juergen Fenn
Am 9. April 2012 06:50 schrieb James Heilman jmh...@gmail.com: The core group of editors at Wikitravel are interested in joining a WMF run Wiki Travel Guide. A proposal for creating such a project has been outlined here http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Travel_Guide and would develop from

Re: [Foundation-l] Wiki Travel Guide

2012-04-09 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Hello, Possibly, what is educational in Wikitravel (-voyage) can go into Wikipedia, and what not, is not educational. One might get problems with policies such as NOR and NPOV. I suppose that they should be applied on Wiki Travel Guide, as on Wikipedia, Wikibooks and other Wikimedia sites. Kind

[Foundation-l] Volunteers Wanted: Funds Dissemination Process Advisory Group

2012-04-09 Thread Barry Newstead
Dear all, Following up on the Wikimedia Foundation's Board resolution on Funds Dissemination[1], we are launching work on the design of the Funds Dissemination Committee[2] To help in the design and implementation work ahead, we are creating an Advisory Group which will begin work very soon.

Re: [Foundation-l] Volunteers Wanted: Funds Dissemination Process Advisory Group

2012-04-09 Thread Thomas Dalton
Can you explain why we need this proposed process? The decision has been made to form a committee to make recommendations to the WMF board about funds dissemination. The only decision still to be made, as far as I can see, is who should be on the committee. What questions do you want to answer

[Foundation-l] Buzzfeed articles

2012-04-08 Thread Andreas Kolbe
Note that there have been two recent Buzzfeed articles about Commons and Wikipedia, by Jack Stuef, who is a writer for The Onion: 1. The Epic Battle For Wikipedia's Autofellatio Page In the underbelly of Wikipedia is an exhibitionist subculture dedicated to one thing: Ensuring that their penis

Re: [Foundation-l] [Commons-l] Personality rights

2012-04-08 Thread Samuel Klein
On Sun, Apr 8, 2012 at 8:42 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 8 April 2012 13:39, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: I've sent you and Ryan an e-mail with a link to the deletion discussion. In a discussion like this, secret evidence is approximately worthless. Indeed. This

[Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Wikimedia Hungary Report – March 2011

2012-04-08 Thread Bence Damokos
Deal all, The March report of Wikimedia Hungary is available in English at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_chapters/Reports/Wikim%C3%A9dia_Magyarorsz%C3%A1g/March_2012 (and for your convenience, copied below). Translations, questions, comments, +1's, likes, etc. are appreciated. Best

[Foundation-l] Wiki Travel Guide

2012-04-08 Thread James Heilman
The core group of editors at Wikitravel are interested in joining a WMF run Wiki Travel Guide. A proposal for creating such a project has been outlined here http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wiki_Travel_Guide and would develop from the content currently at wikitravel.org *Wikitravel is currently in

Re: [Foundation-l] help.wikimedia.org - QA site

2012-04-07 Thread Jan Kučera
FD seem to collect lots of crappy feedback... Why WMF promis always think a wiki interface will save the world? It definitely will not, because newbies will never touch this interface... and this is a BIG BIG problem nobody wants to acknowledge. We do need services that are easier to use than a

Re: [Foundation-l] help.wikimedia.org - QA site

2012-04-07 Thread Pharos
On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Gregory Varnum gregory.var...@gmail.com wrote: Some modifications and requested info has been added to:   http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Ask.wikimedia.org_(Q%26A_site) -greg aka varnent There have also been a couple of other proposals on meta along these same

Re: [Foundation-l] New Project Process

2012-04-07 Thread Pharos
Indeed, I would expect for the 'Sister Projects Committee' to have both the options of project fission and project fusion within its toolbag. Thanks, Richard (User:Pharos) On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 11:24 AM, Tarc Meridian t...@hotmail.com wrote: In some respects, that change would be quite good.

Re: [Foundation-l] Improving Wikipedia Information graphics

2012-04-07 Thread David Richfield
Can we please also have information on how to update them, and source files?  It's good to have brilliant graphics, but also very important to be able to recreate them. I guess not all students followed the best practice (and more will next time): some of those images are SVG. That's a good

Re: [Foundation-l] Call for POTY Helpers and Translators

2012-04-07 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
Will you use the Translate extension for translations or will you just ask the translators to do it old-style? Please consider the extension - it's far more convenient for the translators and for the managers. It's already installed in Meta. 06.04.2012 6:42 пользователь Mono monom...@gmail.com

Re: [Foundation-l] FAQ for fundraising resolutions

2012-04-07 Thread Michael Peel
Hi Phoebe, Thanks for posting this. I've asked a question (OK, three related questions) at: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Fundraising_and_Funds_Dissemination/Board_FAQ#Why_just_the_four_chapters.3F Thanks, Mike On 5 Apr 2012, at 19:29, Thomas Dalton wrote: On 5 April 2012 19:14, phoebe

Re: [Foundation-l] New Project Process

2012-04-07 Thread Samuel Klein
There have been some good suggestions in this thread! I've summarized some of them on meta here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Sister_Projects_Committee Please help improve that page, and indicate if you would be interested in this work. SJ On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 8:25 AM, Pharos

Re: [Foundation-l] Call for POTY Helpers and Translators

2012-04-07 Thread Thehelpfulone
On 7 April 2012 22:00, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: Will you use the Translate extension for translations or will you just ask the translators to do it old-style? Please consider the extension - it's far more convenient for the translators and for the managers. It's

Re: [Foundation-l] A discussion list for Wikimedia (not Foundation) matters

2012-04-07 Thread Erik Moeller
Looking a bit further into the best way to do this - since mailman doesn't have any sensible export/import features that retain list member settings, we'll probably need to make a full copy of the list on the server, and then remove the members of the old one. I'll ask Daniel to look into that

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Fwd: Announcement: New editor engagement experiments team!

2012-04-06 Thread Jan Kučera
Yes we might be on the same page, but I think in general the employment policy of WFM is one big disaster. I would rather not make a research on productivity among the employees... which from a POV of an outsider seems to be a tragedy looking at the site usability and editing stats... I have no

[Foundation-l] help.wikimedia.org - QA site

2012-04-06 Thread Jan Kučera
Hi there, new projects suck, because there are (close to) none asked some time ago already with few positive replies bug was already filled at https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=29923 is there someone who can help move on? not really expecting tremendous action(s), but just giving

Re: [Foundation-l] help.wikimedia.org - QA site

2012-04-06 Thread K. Peachey
On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Jan Kučera kozuc...@gmail.com wrote: new projects suck, because there are (close to) none Well propose a non sucky one then? TBH I don't class a QA site really as a new project. Since that bug (if memory serves correctly) is just about setting one up for

Re: [Foundation-l] New Project Process

2012-04-06 Thread Tarc Meridian
In some respects, that change would be quite good. My experience on Wikiquote has been unfavorable, to put it mildly, where the en.wiki concept of BLP is non-existent. Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2012 14:42:41 +1000 From: jay...@gmail.com To: foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re:

[Foundation-l] Creative Commons licenses v4 drafts available

2012-04-06 Thread David Gerard
https://creativecommons.org/weblog/entry/32157 The fussy buggers of Wikimedia need to get nitpicking ... - d. ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] help.wikimedia.org - QA site

2012-04-06 Thread Jan Kučera
Yes and why the damn WMF does not throw their support behind such projects? Do they consider us all to be useless idiots when proposing such things? 2012/4/6 Mono monom...@gmail.com: Well, I don't think it could be successful unless the Foundation threw their support behind it. On Friday,

Re: [Foundation-l] Improving Wikipedia Information graphics

2012-04-06 Thread David Richfield
Very good stuff! Can we please also have information on how to update them, and source files? It's good to have brilliant graphics, but also very important to be able to recreate them. By the way, in the same breath, let me plug my basic, simple, parliament diagram creator (which writes svg

Re: [Foundation-l] help.wikimedia.org - QA site

2012-04-06 Thread Gregory Varnum
I would be interested in helping with this project from a third-party wiki and MediaWiki developer perspective. -greg aka varnent On Apr 6, 2012, at 2:26 PM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 3:45 AM, Jan Kučera kozuc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there, new projects

Re: [Foundation-l] help.wikimedia.org - QA site

2012-04-06 Thread Samuel Klein
Great! Could you two please revise the current dormant proposal at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiAnswers And note that one of the active uses of the site would be a channel dedicated to QA about using the Wikimedia projects and MediaWiki? I think it is simpler and easier to say let's start

[Foundation-l] Do you use MediaWiki as a conference website?

2012-04-06 Thread Samuel Klein
Forwarding to f-l/ -- Forwarded message -- From: Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Internal-l] Do you use MediaWiki as a conference website? Related to this idea, OpenMeetings is a site established to capture meetings and video/audio/text of talks at them, under a

Re: [Foundation-l] help.wikimedia.org - QA site

2012-04-06 Thread Jan Kučera
I will be happy to set such a site for the Foundation, as soon as someone gives me the power to do so... the only development task is to connect existing software (probably OSQA) to Global login system... Btw, Erik, I actually like acting rather than talking and I am terribly frustrated from the

Re: [Foundation-l] help.wikimedia.org - QA site

2012-04-06 Thread Gregory Varnum
Some modifications and requested info has been added to: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Ask.wikimedia.org_(Q%26A_site) -greg aka varnent On Apr 6, 2012, at 2:52 PM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: Great! Could you two please revise the current dormant proposal at

Re: [Foundation-l] help.wikimedia.org - QA site

2012-04-06 Thread Mono
Take a look at toolserver.org/~mono/qua On Friday, April 6, 2012, Gregory Varnum wrote: Some modifications and requested info has been added to: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Ask.wikimedia.org_(Q%26A_site) -greg aka varnent On Apr 6, 2012, at 2:52 PM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com

Re: [Foundation-l] help.wikimedia.org - QA site

2012-04-06 Thread Gregory Varnum
Is there a more wiki like version of that platform available - or would development of such a platform be feasible and of interest to our volunteer developers? -greg On Apr 6, 2012, at 4:30 PM, Mono monom...@gmail.com wrote: Take a look at toolserver.org/~mono/qua On Friday, April 6,

Re: [Foundation-l] help.wikimedia.org - QA site

2012-04-06 Thread John
WOW, you guys are bashing the WMF for not supporting a legal nightmare, and yet another clone of an existing service (answers.yahoo.com). The legalities and paperwork necessary to avoid the WMF from getting their asses sued off for bad answers is probably a multi-year endeavor, and a money sink.

Re: [Foundation-l] help.wikimedia.org - QA site

2012-04-06 Thread Mono
I believ you misinterpreted the use. This tool would only do users EDITing Wikipedia. On Friday, April 6, 2012, John wrote: WOW, you guys are bashing the WMF for not supporting a legal nightmare, and yet another clone of an existing service (answers.yahoo.com). The legalities and paperwork

Re: [Foundation-l] help.wikimedia.org - QA site

2012-04-06 Thread Mono
Possibly, but maybe more trouble that it's worth. On Friday, April 6, 2012, Gregory Varnum wrote: Is there a more wiki like version of that platform available - or would development of such a platform be feasible and of interest to our volunteer developers? -greg On Apr 6, 2012, at 4:30

Re: [Foundation-l] help.wikimedia.org - QA site

2012-04-06 Thread Gregory Varnum
I'm unclear from a legal perspective how this presents a nightmare. In what ways do volunteers responding to QA's about Wikimedia projects and content present great challenges than existing efforts like enWP's Reference Desk and MW.org's Support desk? In regards to answers.yahoo.com - I think

Re: [Foundation-l] help.wikimedia.org - QA site

2012-04-06 Thread Gregory Varnum
Fair enough - I could also go around and around on the value or challenge of using wiki style editing to help folks running into problems using wiki edit tools.. -greg On Apr 6, 2012, at 4:58 PM, Mono monom...@gmail.com wrote: Possibly, but maybe more trouble that it's worth. On Friday,

Re: [Foundation-l] help.wikimedia.org - QA site

2012-04-06 Thread Thomas Morton
You might want to warn stackexchange ;-) Tom Morton On 6 Apr 2012, at 21:44, John phoenixoverr...@gmail.com wrote: WOW, you guys are bashing the WMF for not supporting a legal nightmare, and yet another clone of an existing service (answers.yahoo.com). The legalities and paperwork necessary

Re: [Foundation-l] help.wikimedia.org - QA site

2012-04-06 Thread Peter Coombe
Wasn't there a proposal a while back for a Stack Exchange [1] site like this? It seems like the ideal software for it. Although IMO if MediaWiki discussions are too confusing for new users, we should be concentrating on fixing that (*cough* LiquidThreads *cough*) rather than going to a different

Re: [Foundation-l] help.wikimedia.org - QA site

2012-04-06 Thread Gregory Varnum
This site could be an interesting test ground for the developing visual editor and future LiquidThreads projects. I always feel a little weird when we develop new platforms rather than enhance the MediaWiki platform. -greg On Apr 6, 2012, at 5:07 PM, Peter Coombe thewub.w...@googlemail.com

Re: [Foundation-l] Improving Wikipedia Information graphics

2012-04-06 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Steven Walling, 06/04/2012 00:39: These are fantastic. I don't see them on (EN) articles or Commons yet, though it's easy to miss... do the students need help uploading etc? All those images are hotlinked from Commons, or are we talking about different things? Some of them are in articles

Re: [Foundation-l] help.wikimedia.org - QA site

2012-04-06 Thread Erik Moeller
On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Peter Coombe thewub.w...@googlemail.com wrote: Wasn't there a proposal a while back for a Stack Exchange [1] site like this? It seems like the ideal software for it. StackExchange and the open source OSQA equivalent are indeed powerful tools and worth

Re: [Foundation-l] WMF Engineering org charts

2012-04-06 Thread Erik Moeller
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 9:46 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: What about personal development? Do your managers play an active role in helping their reports develop with objectives, feedback, training, etc? Yes, of course. There's a standard $ allotment for each employee in the

Re: [Foundation-l] New Project Process

2012-04-05 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The WikiData project is at first very much technical. Software is developed and as the software gains a certain level of maturity, a community will start to grow. This community will slowly but surely become integrated with other Wikimedia projects. At this stage all eyes are on Wikipedia

Re: [Foundation-l] New Project Process

2012-04-05 Thread Fajro
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 8:34 PM, Jürgen Fenn schneeschme...@googlemail.com wrote: Am 3. April 2012 22:22 schrieb Samuel Klein sjkl...@hcs.harvard.edu: I would like to add another option: Who not merge all projects into Wikipedia proper? The lack in participation in the sister projects is

Re: [Foundation-l] New Project Process

2012-04-05 Thread Yann Forget
Hi, Le 5 avril 2012 05:04, Jürgen Fenn schneeschme...@googlemail.com a écrit : Am 3. April 2012 22:22 schrieb Samuel Klein sjkl...@hcs.harvard.edu: Ziko: what would a WMF evaluation of Wikinews or Wikispecies say? Should we shut down such a project... cease to mention it on Wikipedia main

[Foundation-l] FAQ for fundraising resolutions

2012-04-05 Thread phoebe ayers
Hi all, The Board has published a QA document around the recently published fundraising funds dissemination resolutions. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_and_Funds_Dissemination/Board_FAQ It's quite long -- sorry! -- but hopefully informative. Note that we did this as everyone was

Re: [Foundation-l] FAQ for fundraising resolutions

2012-04-05 Thread Thomas Dalton
Thanks for posting this, Phoebe. My question about what you intend to do over the next 3 years wasn't answered. There is no point waiting three years and then re-evaluating the situation if you haven't made sure you've been gathering all the right information during those 3 years and that you are

Re: [Foundation-l] Board of Trustees resolutions

2012-04-05 Thread phoebe ayers
On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 10:47 PM, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, The Board of Trustees had a meeting this weekend in conjunction with the Wikimedia chapters conference held in Berlin. As an outcome of the meeting we discussed and passed nine resolutions, which are

Re: [Foundation-l] FAQ for fundraising resolutions

2012-04-05 Thread phoebe ayers
Thanks, Tom. If you don't mind I'll put it on the talk page; this will likely require some discussion to answer. -- phoebe On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for posting this, Phoebe. My question about what you intend to do over the next 3

Re: [Foundation-l] FAQ for fundraising resolutions

2012-04-05 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 5 April 2012 19:14, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, Tom. If you don't mind I'll put it on the talk page; this will likely require some discussion to answer. By all means. ___ foundation-l mailing list

[Foundation-l] Improving Wikipedia Information graphics

2012-04-05 Thread Leinonen Teemu
Hi, I have a nice little project to share. Our graphic design students have been improving some of the information graphics in the Wikipedia articles. The work was done as part of their Information Design class. The teachers of the class wrote about the class and its results in here:

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Fwd: Announcement: New editor engagement experiments team!

2012-04-05 Thread Jan Kučera
You are still doomed as WMF with your new job probram unless you allow remote work or start a reasonable grant-program to general public... you will never find the best talents in a limited space... (mainly US now) go to the full globe instead... 2012/3/28 birgitte...@yahoo.com: It seems to me

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Fwd: Announcement: New editor engagement experiments team!

2012-04-05 Thread Oliver Keyes
On 5 April 2012 22:42, Jan Kučera kozuc...@gmail.com wrote: You are still doomed as WMF with your new job probram unless you allow remote work or start a reasonable grant-program to general public... you will never find the best talents in a limited space... (mainly US now) go to the full

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Fwd: Announcement: New editor engagement experiments team!

2012-04-05 Thread Steven Walling
On Apr 5, 2012 2:42 PM, Jan Kučera kozuc...@gmail.com wrote: You are still doomed as WMF with your new job probram unless you allow remote work or start a reasonable grant-program to general public... you will never find the best talents in a limited space... (mainly US now) go to the full

Re: [Foundation-l] Improving Wikipedia Information graphics

2012-04-05 Thread Andrew Lih
That's great stuff, thanks for letting the list know about it. Wikipedia may have squashed Encarta and put Britannica on its heels, but those encyclopedias had the edge with multimedia and professional infographics. This is a wonderful step forward and I hope we'll see more. -Andrew On Thu, Apr

Re: [Foundation-l] Improving Wikipedia Information graphics

2012-04-05 Thread Steven Walling
On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 12:58 PM, Leinonen Teemu teemu.leino...@aalto.fiwrote: Hi, I have a nice little project to share. Our graphic design students have been improving some of the information graphics in the Wikipedia articles. The work was done as part of their Information Design class.

Re: [Foundation-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Fwd: Announcement: New editor engagement experiments team!

2012-04-05 Thread Birgitte_sb
Please don't assume I disagree with all objections that could possibly be made, just because I disagree that the one's which had been presented so far are very significant. I sincerely hope this program is more decentralized then any other program being run right now. It seems to be in rather

[Foundation-l] Call for POTY Helpers and Translators

2012-04-05 Thread Mono
Hello Wikimedians, On behalf of the 2011 POTY committee, I'd like to invite you to join the Commons Picture of the Year (POTY) Committee. A volunteer-led contest, Picture of the Year is run by an organizing committee of Wikimedians. Since its inception in 2006, thousands of photos from people all

Re: [Foundation-l] WMF Engineering org charts

2012-04-05 Thread Oliver Keyes
So, Erik is best suited to speak for Engineering's wider attitude on personal development: I can only talk about what I've seen, as an editor who slaves away for our evil and monolithic overlords in their goal to obliterate the commu-crud. wrong meeting. I've been not just impressed but humbled

Re: [Foundation-l] A discussion list for Wikimedia (not Foundation) matters

2012-04-04 Thread Lodewijk
I don't know if this makes sense, so I beg your patience for my ignorance. But would it be an option to duplicate the archive? Then both the old and the new links will work. It would be a Great Pity if the new list would not contain the archive of the old list. Best, Lodewijk No dia 4 de Abril

Re: [Foundation-l] A discussion list for Wikimedia (not Foundation) matters

2012-04-04 Thread Thehelpfulone
On 3 April 2012 07:04, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 10:37 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Will the archives be permanently split? Probably -- advanced mailman surgeries carry a high risk of fatal mistakes (e.g. we have a fancy pipermail URL alias,

Re: [Foundation-l] New Project Process

2012-04-04 Thread Lodewijk
I totally second SJ's poke for more new projects! Although our flagship project is highly successful, it would be good if we try to keep creating new communities. I have been sad for quite a while now that we don't create new projects any more. It would be great to see one new project every year

Re: [Foundation-l] first Wikidata office hour on IRC

2012-04-04 Thread Lydia Pintscher
Hey :) just a quick reminder that the english one will be in about 23 hours. Cheers Lydia On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 2:55 PM, Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de wrote: Hi everyone! Next week the Wikidata team will be complete and start working at full speed. Finally! \o/  I will be

Re: [Foundation-l] New Project Process

2012-04-04 Thread Jürgen Fenn
Am 3. April 2012 22:22 schrieb Samuel Klein sjkl...@hcs.harvard.edu: Ziko: what would a WMF evaluation of Wikinews or Wikispecies say? Should we shut down such a project... cease to mention it on Wikipedia main pages... or invest money in promoting it? Good questions, subtle answers.  

[Foundation-l] WMF Engineering org charts

2012-04-04 Thread Erik Moeller
Hi folks, as I mentioned in a response to Liam the other day, we've been working on having org charts generated in a more automatic, scalable form. A contractor, Mark Holmquist, has been working on an open source tool for this the last few weeks to do this. It's still highly experimental. In

Re: [Foundation-l] WMF Engineering org charts

2012-04-04 Thread George Herbert
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi folks, as I mentioned in a response to Liam the other day, we've been working on having org charts generated in a more automatic, scalable form. ... Thank you for that. On a meta-question that raises - there are a lot

Re: [Foundation-l] WMF Engineering org charts

2012-04-04 Thread Erik Moeller
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 5:45 PM, George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com wrote: Has this been an observed issue within the WMF? In some areas. In my view, a well-functioning agile team is self-organizing and self-managed, and it's a manager's job to primarily set that team up for success, hire

Re: [Foundation-l] New Project Process

2012-04-04 Thread Pharos
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 10:28 AM, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote: I totally second SJ's poke for more new projects! Although our flagship project is highly successful, it would be good if we try to keep creating new communities. I have been sad for quite a while now that we don't

Re: [Foundation-l] New Project Process (James Heilman)

2012-04-04 Thread James Heilman
I would love to see two specific proposals taken up. One is The Wikipedia Journal as discussed here http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposal:Journal_%28A_peer-review_journal_to_allow/encourage_academics_to_write_Wikipedia_articles%29 Currently working on corporate partners for this. And the

Re: [Foundation-l] WMF Engineering org charts

2012-04-04 Thread George Herbert
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 6:05 PM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 5:45 PM, George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com wrote: Has this been an observed issue within the WMF? In some areas. In my view, a well-functioning agile team is self-organizing and self-managed,

Re: [Foundation-l] New Project Process

2012-04-04 Thread Carlos Felipe Antonorsi
Hi everyone, I'm new on the list and this is my fist email, but I've been reading for a while(I'm from es.wiki). I support what Jürgen said, Most of the Wikimedia projects are not very popular (with the exception of Wikipedia and maybe commons). I talk about what I've read and listened to people

Re: [Foundation-l] New Project Process

2012-04-04 Thread John Vandenberg
The policies of each project are different for a very good reason. e.g. If English Wikiquote was merged into English Wikipedia, the vast majority of the quote pages would be deleted very quickly, for good or ill. I know I would be the first to get out the sickle. :P On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 2:22

Re: [Foundation-l] WMF Engineering org charts

2012-04-04 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 5 April 2012 02:05, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 5:45 PM, George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com wrote: Has this been an observed issue within the WMF? In some areas. In my view, a well-functioning agile team is self-organizing and self-managed, and it's

Re: [Foundation-l] New Project Process

2012-04-03 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Samuel Klein, 03/04/2012 06:40: - a global list of areas needing free knowledge, and how far we are as a society towards reaching that goal We had started a stub table about this: https://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_things_that_need_to_be_free Nemo

Re: [Foundation-l] New Project Process

2012-04-03 Thread Ziko van Dijk
Hello, Interesting. Please allow me to second that with the proposal to reconsider existing projects. For example, what would a WMF evaluation of Wikinews or Wikispecies say? Should we shut down such a project, or at least cease to mention it on Wikipedia main pages? Or invest money in promoting

Re: [Foundation-l] New Project Process

2012-04-03 Thread David Gerard
On 3 April 2012 07:47, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: We had started a stub table about this: https://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/List_of_things_that_need_to_be_free This is brilliant! I've been after something like this for a while. - d.

Re: [Foundation-l] New Project Process

2012-04-03 Thread Liam Wyatt
On 3 April 2012 06:50, Ziko van Dijk vand...@wmnederland.nl wrote: Hello, Interesting. Please allow me to second that with the proposal to reconsider existing projects. For example, what would a WMF evaluation of Wikinews or Wikispecies say? Should we shut down such a project, or at least

Re: [Foundation-l] New Project Process

2012-04-03 Thread Yaroslav M. Blanter
On Tue, 03 Apr 2012 08:47:45 +0200, Federico Leva (Nemo) wrote: Samuel Klein, 03/04/2012 06:40: - a global list of areas needing free knowledge, and how far we are as a society towards reaching that goal We had started a stub table about this:

Re: [Foundation-l] A discussion list for Wikimedia (not Foundation) matters

2012-04-03 Thread MZMcBride
Erik Moeller wrote: On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 10:37 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Are there any other consequences of a list rename? You will feel a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. :D A few pages at

Re: [Foundation-l] A discussion list for Wikimedia (not Foundation) matters

2012-04-03 Thread Thehelpfulone
One other thing to think about while you're making larger adjustments: it's possible to customize the listinfo page to not be so ghastly. For example, compare https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l with https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l. Perhaps one of

Re: [Foundation-l] New Project Process

2012-04-03 Thread Pharos
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 2:47 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: Samuel Klein, 03/04/2012 06:40:  - a global list of areas needing free knowledge, and how far we are as a society towards reaching that goal We had started a stub table about this:

Re: [Foundation-l] New Project Process

2012-04-03 Thread Pharos
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Samuel Klein sjkl...@hcs.harvard.edu wrote: On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:38 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 3 April 2012 07:47, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: We had started a stub table about this:

[Foundation-l] EXTENDED DEADLINE - Wikipedia Academy 2012: Research and Free Knowledge

2012-04-02 Thread Nicole Ebber
*** Apologies for cross-postings *** CALL FOR PAPERS - Wikipedia Academy 2012: Research and Free Knowledge. June 29 - July 1, 2012 | Berlin, Germany *** EXTENDED submission deadline: 15 Apr 2012 *** Conference Website: http://wikipedia-academy.de/2012/wiki/Main_Page Submit your papers here:

Re: [Foundation-l] WikiData and Football, WikiData and OpenGovernmentData, 2.9 Mio Eur from European tax payers

2012-04-02 Thread Denny Vrandečić
Hi Andreas, assuming the original data is in a license that can be used in Wikidata, and assuming the Wikidata community wants this data in Wikidata, yes :) The use cases are technically feasible for sure. Cheers, Denny 2012/4/1 Lydia Pintscher lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de Hi Andreas On

[Foundation-l] New Project Process

2012-04-02 Thread Samuel Klein
With the launch of the WikiData effort, I am reminded that we should return to our early willingness to experiment with new project ideas. This means both starting new types of projects (like commons, like wikidata!) and closing / archiving / spinning off projects (like the sep11 wiki). Two

Re: [Foundation-l] A discussion list for Wikimedia (not Foundation) matters

2012-04-02 Thread Erik Moeller
On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 7:29 AM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: I think wikimedia-l would work fine and make sense. We probably don't need an additional list, a lot of the lists we have now are lightly used. Picking this up again .. I'll go ahead and make this change on Saturday 4/7, unless

Re: [Foundation-l] WikiData and Football, WikiData and OpenGovernmentData, 2.9 Mio Eur from European tax payers

2012-04-01 Thread Lydia Pintscher
Hi Andreas On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 1:14 AM, andreas meier meier.a...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Through reports in the German Television I was made aware of the WikiData project. This sounds really interesting. I could also find the press Hah! Nice. Do you remember where you saw it? announcement

[Foundation-l] Conservapedia announce exciting new linked data project

2012-04-01 Thread David Gerard
America’s most trusted encyclopedia, Conservapedia, have decided to launch a new wiki-based semantic data project named Conservadata. The new project will make right-wing soundbites available in machine readable form. http://blog.tommorris.org/post/20277406012/conservadata - d.

Re: [Foundation-l] Conservapedia announce exciting new linked data project

2012-04-01 Thread Svip
On 1 April 2012 12:25, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: America’s most trusted encyclopedia, Conservapedia, have decided to launch a new wiki-based semantic data project named Conservadata. The new project will make right-wing soundbites available in machine readable form.

[Foundation-l] We've figured out fundraising

2012-04-01 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
This is something I've hard multiple times, and it always reminds me this unsettling graph: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Surexploitation_morue_surp%C3%AAcheEn.jpg [1] I'm quite sure fishermen thought they had fugured out cod fishing in the end of the 60s, but only a couple years

Re: [Foundation-l] foundation-l Digest, Vol 96, Issue 95

2012-04-01 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
phoebe ayers, 01/04/2012 07:49: In the meantime, if there are any questions for us (as a board) or for individual trustees I encourage you simply to send those along, either to me (if you want them to go to the whole board, as I will pass them along) or privately. That would help make sure that

Re: [Foundation-l] Conservapedia announce exciting new linked data project

2012-04-01 Thread Mike Dupont
happy april first On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Svip svi...@gmail.com wrote: On 1 April 2012 12:25, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: America’s most trusted encyclopedia, Conservapedia, have decided to launch a new wiki-based semantic data project named Conservadata. The new

[Foundation-l] Board of Trustees resolutions

2012-04-01 Thread phoebe ayers
Dear all, The Board of Trustees had a meeting this weekend in conjunction with the Wikimedia chapters conference held in Berlin. As an outcome of the meeting we discussed and passed nine resolutions, which are published here: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolutions * Recognizing models

Re: [Foundation-l] Board Resolutions from March 30th 2012

2012-03-31 Thread Stuart West
My personal view on this John is that abstaining is appropriate in a couple cases: - you truly don't have an opinion and trust those who do have opinions to make the decision. in that case it's really a decision to support the majority view of the others who are voting. - you don't

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