On 5/26/11 3:05 PM, Milos Rancic wrote:
* If literacy is low and there are no efforts to improve it, efforts
should go that way.
* Is it about the language without writing system? If yes, efforts
should go that way.
I guess I'd say what efforts should be taken should depend on what the
On 05/28/2011 05:02 PM, Mark wrote:
On 5/26/11 3:05 PM, Milos Rancic wrote:
* If literacy is low and there are no efforts to improve it, efforts
should go that way.
* Is it about the language without writing system? If yes, efforts
should go that way.
I guess I'd say what efforts should be
Hoi,
Having projects that rely on volunteers does not mean that what they do is
without consequence. The policy of the language committee insists on
requirements. They have to be met. One of the things we consider is the
involvement of native speakers ... In the language committee we are
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Neil Harris n...@tonal.clara.co.uk wrote:
As part of the WMF's mission, I wonder if it could be worth considering
providing a Web-based English (or other language) literacy course that
could start with very simple video lessons to give an elementary
vocabulary
On 05/23/2011 12:58 PM, Milos Rancic wrote:
Here is the article at Strategy wiki:
http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Missing_Wikipedias
Some important ideas have been mentioned during this discussion. Feel
free to add them there.
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I've started to categorize languages
Having a test project doesn't necessarily mean community interest;
having a test project with dozens of articles might indicate that. In
many cases, users with no relation to the language (in particular,
User:Jose77) have started test wikis with text all in English for
hundreds of languages. So
On 05/26/2011 07:30 PM, M. Williamson wrote:
Having a test project doesn't necessarily mean community interest;
having a test project with dozens of articles might indicate that. In
many cases, users with no relation to the language (in particular,
User:Jose77) have started test wikis with
On 05/24/2011 03:03 PM, Ilario Valdelli wrote:
On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 1:15 PM, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote:
I am preparing document for Wikimania. Presently, I am in process of
analyzing data (SIL [1], Ethnologue [2], Wikimedia projects). I am using
Ethnologue data for population
Zitat von Ilario Valdelli valde...@gmail.com:
On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 1:15 PM, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote:
I am preparing document for Wikimania. Presently, I am in process of
analyzing data (SIL [1], Ethnologue [2], Wikimedia projects). I am using
Ethnologue data for population
Zitat von m...@marcusbuck.org:
A supply of content is a prerequisite to stimulate demand in content.
After
all one of the biggest problems of a fledgling Wikipedia is that few
people have the dedication to work on a project that will probably not
take off for years to come. It's easier to
On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 4:47 PM, m...@marcusbuck.org wrote:
A single dedicated person could be enough to put a project in motion.
A dean of a Nigerian college who integrates Wikipedia article creation
in the instruction plan (if you create 200 Nigerian pidgin Wikipedia
articles this semester
An'n 24.05.2011 19:13, hett Ilario Valdelli schreven:
On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 4:47 PM,m...@marcusbuck.org wrote:
A single dedicated person could be enough to put a project in motion.
A dean of a Nigerian college who integrates Wikipedia article creation
in the instruction plan (if you create
Here is the article at Strategy wiki:
http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Missing_Wikipedias
Some important ideas have been mentioned during this discussion. Feel
free to add them there.
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On 22/05/11 18:29, WereSpielChequers wrote:
We are likely to reach each of the following on the way to our target,
and it would be great to announce them when we reach them:
1 90% of literate people have a version of wikipedia available in a
language that they understand
2 95% of literate
More data. This is about all living languages, just to get a clue about
what is reasonable to do and what is not.
Number of languages and number of speakers for languages categorized by
number of speakers (you can get more nice wikitable at [1]):
category: number of languages, total number of
Clearly, at least at this point, it is probably unreasonable to target
any languages with less than 100,000 native speakers; of course, if
there is community interest I think they should get Wikipedias, but
the 70 million or so human beings who speak languages with less than
100k speakers are
I am preparing document for Wikimania. Presently, I am in process of
analyzing data (SIL [1], Ethnologue [2], Wikimedia projects). I am using
Ethnologue data for population estimates.
Before I started this task, I thought that the situation is not so bad
(or good, if it is about possibility for
Can you also provide at least a rough estimate of the number of humans who
don't have Wikipedia in any language they speak reasonably well (understanding
very well that this is a hard problem of definition)?
Curious.
On May 22, 2011, at 14:15, Milos Rancic wrote:
I am preparing document for
On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 4:15 AM, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote:
I am preparing document for Wikimania. Presently, I am in process of
analyzing data (SIL [1], Ethnologue [2], Wikimedia projects). I am using
Ethnologue data for population estimates.
Before I started this task, I thought
On Sun, 2011-05-22 at 13:15 +0200, Milos Rancic wrote:
* Jin Chinese, 45M, China
* Xiang Chinese, 36, China, incubator
* Min Bei Chinese, 10.3M, China, incubator
Aren't these languages written with Chinese characters and thus their
speakers can read and write the Chinese Wikipedia?
On 05/22/2011 01:22 PM, Denny Vrandecic wrote:
Can you also provide at least a rough estimate of the number of humans who
don't have Wikipedia in any language they speak reasonably well
(understanding very well that this is a hard problem of definition)?
I would say that the number humans
On 05/22/2011 01:28 PM, George Herbert wrote:
Good work generally, but regarding this last list...
Afghanistan has many languages in use (Pashto, Tajik, Hazara, Uzbek);
Algeria uses Arabic, Berber, and French; Jordan's official language
is Arabic (though the spoken one is a dialect); and
On 05/22/2011 01:37 PM, Nikola Smolenski wrote:
On Sun, 2011-05-22 at 13:15 +0200, Milos Rancic wrote:
* Jin Chinese, 45M, China
* Xiang Chinese, 36, China, incubator
* Min Bei Chinese, 10.3M, China, incubator
Aren't these languages written with Chinese characters and thus their
speakers
On Sun, 2011-05-22 at 14:47 +0200, Milos Rancic wrote:
On 05/22/2011 01:37 PM, Nikola Smolenski wrote:
On Sun, 2011-05-22 at 13:15 +0200, Milos Rancic wrote:
* Jin Chinese, 45M, China
* Xiang Chinese, 36, China, incubator
* Min Bei Chinese, 10.3M, China, incubator
Aren't these
On Sun, 2011-05-22 at 14:32 +0200, Milos Rancic wrote:
On 05/22/2011 01:28 PM, George Herbert wrote:
Can you break this out by which languages we are missing, not just
by
country, as country isn't specific enough?
Waiting for list admins to allow ~250k mail :)
If only someone would make
On 05/22/2011 03:22 PM, Nikola Smolenski wrote:
On Sun, 2011-05-22 at 14:32 +0200, Milos Rancic wrote:
On 05/22/2011 01:28 PM, George Herbert wrote:
Can you break this out by which languages we are missing, not just
by
country, as country isn't specific enough?
Waiting for list admins to
On 05/22/2011 03:20 PM, Nikola Smolenski wrote:
Yea, but how much is any of these different? They may be practically the
same or possible to be added as a variant of Chinese.
I don't know, but the known fact is that even the languages in the
closest families, like Slavic languages are, have
Hi Milos, thanks for those interesting facts!
On 05/22/2011 01:15 PM, Milos Rancic wrote:
Those are preliminary results. We have two chapters (and strategic
focus) in countries of the list above. Inside of the longer list,
which should be verified, we have more chapters. I noted that there
On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 1:15 PM, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote:
Those are preliminary results. We have two chapters (and strategic
focus) in countries of the list above. Inside of the longer list, which
should be verified, we have more chapters. I noted that there are even
two
On Sun, 22 May 2011 14:08:14 +0200, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com
wrote:
On 05/22/2011 01:22 PM, Denny Vrandecic wrote:
Can you also provide at least a rough estimate of the number of humans
who don't have Wikipedia in any language they speak reasonably well
(understanding very well that
On 05/22/2011 04:57 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter wrote:
On Sun, 22 May 2011 14:08:14 +0200, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com
wrote:
On 05/22/2011 01:22 PM, Denny Vrandecic wrote:
Can you also provide at least a rough estimate of the number of humans
who don't have Wikipedia in any language they
An interesting aside on this would be...
What is the quality of the foreign-language Wiki's that currently exist. For
example; the articles in my specific technical topic area have a few foreign
language equivalents. Most are two or three lines.
It would be interesting to see this question
I agree Meta would be the right place for such a table. But a few
other columns would be helpful:
1 Technical barriers. Do we need to make changes to Media Wiki
Software, and are we dependent on changes to Lynux etc in order to
enable people to edit in that language?
2 Literate population. This
On 05/22/2011 06:41 PM, Thomas Morton wrote:
An interesting aside on this would be...
What is the quality of the foreign-language Wiki's that currently exist. For
example; the articles in my specific technical topic area have a few foreign
language equivalents. Most are two or three lines.
On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 11:18 PM, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote:
On 05/22/2011 06:41 PM, Thomas Morton wrote:
An interesting aside on this would be...
What is the quality of the foreign-language Wiki's that currently exist. For
example; the articles in my specific technical topic area
On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 5:30 AM, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote:
(excellent long form work)
Thank you, Milos. Very informative.
Out of curiosity - I assume those are the native speakers counts for
that language. Do we have exclusive speakers counts as well?
I don't know for sure what
Sorry Milos, systematic bias at work there :)
I mean... English Wikipedia has the largest collection of content, and on
average I would guess that the content is of a higher, or at least a more
complete, quality than most other language wiki's. Computer forensics... is
relatively decent on en-wp;
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