Re: [Foundation-l] Along with Vector, a new look for changes to the Wikipedia identity

2010-05-17 Thread stevertigo
Jay Walsh jwa...@wikimedia.org wrote: We've seen a lot of comments about the size of the puzzle globe, and I don't disagree that it might benefit from being increased in size slightly. And shrinking makes the puzzle pieces - the cornerstone of the original winning design - ambiguous. How

Re: [Foundation-l] Along with Vector, a new look for changes to the Wikipedia identity

2010-05-14 Thread Robert Rohde
Some technical questions about the logo: 1) What software was used in making the 3D model? 2) Are the data files for that model available somewhere? (Or will they be made available?) 3) The SVG files provided appear to be based on painted wire frames rather than true 3D renderings. This

Re: [Foundation-l] Along with Vector, a new look for changes to the Wikipedia identity

2010-05-14 Thread Nikola Smolenski
Robert Rohde wrote: Myself and several other people find the new Wikipedia logo to be rather disappointing. Specifically it seems too small (lots of empty white space), and the edges of the puzzle pieces lack definition when shown at the web scale. For a discussion of this, including

Re: [Foundation-l] Along with Vector, a new look for changes to the Wikipedia identity

2010-05-14 Thread Samuel Klein
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 7:06 AM, Casey Brown li...@caseybrown.org wrote: On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 12:27 AM, Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com wrote: Is there a page on Meta for discussing the new logo?  Among other things, we need somewhere to discuss progress on localizing the new logo into

Re: [Foundation-l] Along with Vector, a new look for changes to the Wikipedia identity

2010-05-14 Thread Jay Walsh
Hi folks, The UX team folks have prepared a new rendering of the mark and it's available for review on the Prototype wiki: http://prototype.wikimedia.org/en.wikipedia.org/Main_Page I've made a short update the conversation thread on commons here:

Re: [Foundation-l] Along with Vector, a new look for changes to the Wikipedia identity

2010-05-14 Thread Jon Harald Søby
2010/5/14 Jay Walsh jwa...@wikimedia.org Hi folks, The UX team folks have prepared a new rendering of the mark and it's available for review on the Prototype wiki: http://prototype.wikimedia.org/en.wikipedia.org/Main_Page I've made a short update the conversation thread on commons here:

Re: [Foundation-l] Along with Vector, a new look for changes to the Wikipedia identity

2010-05-13 Thread K. Peachey
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.com wrote: I have to say that I have been eagerly awaiting this day since I saw the first designs come out of the UX team's work (about a year ago?) To anyone, volunteer or Foundation employee, who made the impending switch

Re: [Foundation-l] Along with Vector, a new look for changes to the Wikipedia identity

2010-05-13 Thread Robert Rohde
Myself and several other people find the new Wikipedia logo to be rather disappointing. Specifically it seems too small (lots of empty white space), and the edges of the puzzle pieces lack definition when shown at the web scale. For a discussion of this, including possible tweaks to make it

Re: [Foundation-l] Along with Vector, a new look for changes to the Wikipedia identity

2010-05-13 Thread Tomasz Ganicz
2010/5/13 Jay Walsh jwa...@wikimedia.org: SVG versions of the new globe, and the Wikipedia identity can be found here: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Wikimedia_official_marks I don't believe all of those assets have migrated to Commons yet. Hope you won't forget to change the logo

Re: [Foundation-l] Along with Vector, a new look for changes to the Wikipedia identity

2010-05-13 Thread Victor Vasiliev
Hello! What should be my course of action if I find that the replacement of the old 3D logo with a new wannabe-Web-2.0 melted circle offends my aesthetic sense to the degree inexpressible in any human language? --vvv ___ foundation-l mailing list

Re: [Foundation-l] Along with Vector, a new look for changes to the Wikipedia identity

2010-05-13 Thread Austin Hair
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote: However, I am missing why it was decided to decrease the size of the logo. It definitely looks more professional, but also somewhat less friendly to me. Maybe it is just me, maybe not - I just would like to understand

Re: [Foundation-l] Along with Vector, a new look for changes to the Wikipedia identity

2010-05-13 Thread stevertigo
Jay Walsh jwa...@wikimedia.org wrote: SVG versions of the new globe, and the Wikipedia identity can be found here: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Wikimedia_official_marks I don't believe all of those assets have migrated to Commons yet. The new, smaller logo is visible now on Wikipedia. I

Re: [Foundation-l] Along with Vector, a new look for changes to the Wikipedia identity

2010-05-13 Thread phoebe ayers
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 8:14 AM, Austin Hair adh...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Lodewijk lodew...@effeietsanders.org wrote: However, I am missing why it was decided to decrease the size of the logo. It definitely looks more professional, but also somewhat less friendly to

Re: [Foundation-l] Along with Vector, a new look for changes to the Wikipedia identity

2010-05-13 Thread Guillaume Paumier
Hi, On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 8:04 AM, Victor Vasiliev vasi...@gmail.com wrote: What should be my course of action if I find that the replacement of the old 3D logo with a new wannabe-Web-2.0 melted circle offends my aesthetic sense to the degree inexpressible in any human language? I'd try to

Re: [Foundation-l] Along with Vector, a new look for changes to the Wikipedia identity

2010-05-13 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Austin Hair adh...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 6:32 PM, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote: I think you missed it because it wasn't really discussed before as part of the vector update... right? I admit I didn't read all the announcements,

Re: [Foundation-l] Along with Vector, a new look for changes to the Wikipedia identity

2010-05-13 Thread Platonides
Jay Walsh wrote: Right now volunteers are working with the new localization guide to create the hundreds of new identities needed for each language variation of Wikipedia. You can see the Commons gallery filling up here: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia/2.0 This should the

Re: [Foundation-l] Along with Vector, a new look for changes to the Wikipedia identity

2010-05-13 Thread Austin Hair
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 7:11 PM, Gregory Maxwell gmaxw...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Austin Hair adh...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 6:32 PM, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote: I think you missed it because it wasn't really discussed before as part of

Re: [Foundation-l] Along with Vector, a new look for changes to the Wikipedia identity

2010-05-13 Thread phoebe ayers
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Austin Hair adh...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 7:11 PM, Gregory Maxwell gmaxw...@gmail.com wrote: Oh well— at least we've got something to complain about and improve. We could always go back to talking about porn on Commons. Austin

Re: [Foundation-l] Along with Vector, a new look for changes to the Wikipedia identity

2010-05-13 Thread Mike.lifeguard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 37-01--10 03:59 PM, Austin Hair wrote: I am less confident about unbalanced. The old logo could also be said to be visually unbalanced and perhaps we're just used to it? I'm sure that's part of it—the old one really does look a bit crowded,

Re: [Foundation-l] Along with Vector, a new look for changes to the Wikipedia identity

2010-05-13 Thread Jay Walsh
Thanks, Lodewijk We've seen a lot of comments about the size of the puzzle globe, and I don't disagree that it might benefit from being increased in size slightly. I feel this might also affect the overall contrast and definition. The whole usability team is collecting feedback on this, and

Re: [Foundation-l] Along with Vector, a new look for changes to the Wikipedia identity

2010-05-13 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Kalan kalan@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 22:44, Jay Walsh jwa...@wikimedia.org wrote: We've seen a lot of comments about the size of the puzzle globe, and I don't disagree that it might benefit from being increased in size slightly.  I feel

Re: [Foundation-l] Along with Vector, a new look for changes to the Wikipedia identity

2010-05-13 Thread Steven Walling
In regards to the new logo, 1. I like it. It looks a little odd by itself, but I think it really shines when you see it in Vector. It fits with a less boxy, sharp and jarring look like monobook has given us for years. A little larger couldn't hurt, but I'd like to remind people that a softer look

Re: [Foundation-l] Along with Vector, a new look for changes to the Wikipedia identity

2010-05-13 Thread Platonides
Mike.lifeguard wrote: The globe isn't actually too small, I think it just _looks_ that way because: 1) the new logo has more space in it, in particular at the top 2) the new logo is typically viewed with Vector, which has more space around the logo than monobook did. Take a look at the

Re: [Foundation-l] Along with Vector, a new look for changes to the Wikipedia identity

2010-05-13 Thread Brian S
I think you mean http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/archive/b/bc/20100513062230!Wiki.png. On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 4:34 PM, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote: Mike.lifeguard wrote: The globe isn't actually too small, I think it just _looks_ that way because: 1) the new logo has more

Re: [Foundation-l] Along with Vector, a new look for changes to the Wikipedia identity

2010-05-13 Thread Platonides
Brian S wrote: I think you mean http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/archive/b/bc/20100513062230!Wiki.png. Oh, right. I have still cached the nohat version on http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/bc/Wiki.png ___ foundation-l mailing list

Re: [Foundation-l] Along with Vector, a new look for changes to the Wikipedia identity

2010-05-13 Thread quiddity
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DragonHawk/2010_logo#Comparison That's the clearest demonstration of the difference in size. New and Old compared. Both images are 250pixels wide. They should be basically equal, but are not. Those 2 images also clearly show the difference in detail, and why

Re: [Foundation-l] Along with Vector, a new look for changes to the Wikipedia identity

2010-05-13 Thread Stephen Bain
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 5:00 AM, Kalan kalan@gmail.com wrote: As demonstrated at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:VPT#New_logo, simply resizing and re-contrasting doesn’t help much: the shape is still poor. So this is what should be focused IMO; apparently making the logo as similar

Re: [Foundation-l] Along with Vector, a new look for changes to the Wikipedia identity

2010-05-13 Thread Samuel Klein
Vector is lovely, and continues to grow on me for browsing. Thank you to everyone who has worked on it! On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 10:50 PM, Jay Walsh jwa...@wikimedia.org wrote: The first major change you'll see is a slightly different looking Wikipedia puzzle globe. Over a year ago the

[Foundation-l] Along with Vector, a new look for changes to the Wikipedia identity

2010-05-12 Thread Jay Walsh
Hi folks, Over the next day or so you'll be seeing some exciting changes to the Wikipedia user interface as Vector rolls out across English Wikipedia. In an earlier note on that topic, User Experience team project manager Naoko Komura mentioned another change - one that will bring some small

Re: [Foundation-l] Along with Vector, a new look for changes to the Wikipedia identity

2010-05-12 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 10:50 PM, Jay Walsh jwa...@wikimedia.org wrote: It seemed like an opportune moment to take our 2D globe, lovingly created by WP user:Nohat and improved/modified a cast of many other volunteers back in 2003, and take it to a truly 3D object.  If we were going to

Re: [Foundation-l] Along with Vector, a new look for changes to the Wikipedia identity

2010-05-12 Thread Aaron Adrignola
I looked but could not find an SVG version of the new logo without text on Commons for those who would wish to update sister project templates on non-Wikipedia projects. Basically, it would be a cropped version of http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/File:Wikipedia-puzzleglobe-V2.svg and at

Re: [Foundation-l] Along with Vector, a new look for changes to the Wikipedia identity

2010-05-12 Thread Jay Walsh
SVG versions of the new globe, and the Wikipedia identity can be found here: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Wikimedia_official_marks I don't believe all of those assets have migrated to Commons yet. On May 12, 2010, at 8:19 PM, Aaron Adrignola wrote: I looked but could not find an SVG

Re: [Foundation-l] Along with Vector, a new look for changes to the Wikipedia identity

2010-05-12 Thread Steven Walling
I have to say that I have been eagerly awaiting this day since I saw the first designs come out of the UX team's work (about a year ago?) To anyone, volunteer or Foundation employee, who made the impending switch to Vector a possibility, I want to express my sincerest thanks. Steven Walling