Re: [Foundation-l] Banner ads in sitenotice

2010-08-03 Thread Oliver Keyes
So if the incentive to improve it will end and the people who contribute will switch over.. you have nothing to complain about, because the quote unquote imposed skin will die out. End of problem. On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 2:55 AM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Brandon Harris wrote: This

Re: [Foundation-l] Banner ads in sitenotice

2010-08-03 Thread David Gerard
On 3 August 2010 02:32, Brandon Harris bhar...@wikimedia.org wrote: On 8/2/2010 6:12 PM, MZMcBride wrote: A lot of the complaints I heard regarding the Vector rollout were based in the fact that the Wikimedia Usability team has subverted and bastardized the term usability in an attempt to

Re: [Foundation-l] Banner ads in sitenotice

2010-08-02 Thread Bod Notbod
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 10:43 PM, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote: Job adverts? Really?. Site notice is for critical stuff (fund raising, servers about to explode) even if you play with the notice to only appear ~%10 of the time. Personally I was quite pleased to see it. It can only add to the

Re: [Foundation-l] Banner ads in sitenotice

2010-08-02 Thread Andrew Garrett
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 9:17 PM, Bod Notbod bodnot...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 10:43 PM, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote: Job adverts? Really?. Site notice is for critical stuff (fund raising, servers about to explode) even if you play with the notice to only appear ~%10 of the

Re: [Foundation-l] Banner ads in sitenotice

2010-08-02 Thread Ryan Kaldari
Apparently long-time Wikimedia contributors are also far more sensitive to Foundation imposition of /less/ visual clutter as well, judging by the reaction to the Vector rollout. Perhaps we could just say that long-term Wikimedia contributors are just more sensitive ;) Ryan Kaldari On 8/2/10

Re: [Foundation-l] Banner ads in sitenotice

2010-08-02 Thread Robert Rohde
While I appreciate the comments about people being overly sensitive, I do think it is still true that we should avoid unnecessary clutter. With that in mind, I would like to mention that I don't really like the big empty box approach. On my screen it looks like the banner is about 3.5 times the

Re: [Foundation-l] Banner ads in sitenotice

2010-08-02 Thread Robert Rohde
Er, I mean: I think it would feel less imposing and more friendly to have a smaller banner THAT ran longer. Silly typo. -Robert Rohde ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe:

Re: [Foundation-l] Banner ads in sitenotice

2010-08-02 Thread K. Peachey
On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 3:37 AM, Ryan Kaldari rkald...@wikimedia.org wrote: Apparently long-time Wikimedia contributors are also far more sensitive to Foundation imposition of /less/ visual clutter as well, judging by the reaction to the Vector rollout. Perhaps we could just say that long-term

Re: [Foundation-l] Banner ads in sitenotice

2010-08-02 Thread MZMcBride
Ryan Kaldari wrote: Apparently long-time Wikimedia contributors are also far more sensitive to Foundation imposition of /less/ visual clutter as well, judging by the reaction to the Vector rollout. Perhaps we could just say that long-term Wikimedia contributors are just more sensitive ;) A

Re: [Foundation-l] Banner ads in sitenotice

2010-08-02 Thread Brandon Harris
On 8/2/2010 6:12 PM, MZMcBride wrote: A lot of the complaints I heard regarding the Vector rollout were based in the fact that the Wikimedia Usability team has subverted and bastardized the term usability in an attempt to impose purely aesthetic choices on the broader community.

Re: [Foundation-l] Banner ads in sitenotice

2010-08-02 Thread Oliver Keyes
in an attempt to impose purely aesthetic choices on the broader community. Impose? You know it can be turned off, right? On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 2:32 AM, Brandon Harris bhar...@wikimedia.orgwrote: On 8/2/2010 6:12 PM, MZMcBride wrote: A lot of the complaints I heard regarding the Vector

[Foundation-l] Banner ads in sitenotice

2010-07-29 Thread geni
Job adverts? Really?. Site notice is for critical stuff (fund raising, servers about to explode) even if you play with the notice to only appear ~%10 of the time. Central notice even more so. For less important stuff where you want to contact the community there is [[MediaWiki:Watchlist-details]]

Re: [Foundation-l] Banner ads in sitenotice

2010-07-29 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 29 July 2010 22:43, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote: Job adverts? Really?. Site notice is for critical stuff (fund raising, servers about to explode) even if you play with the notice to only appear ~%10 of the time. Central notice even more so. For less important stuff where you want to

Re: [Foundation-l] Banner ads in sitenotice

2010-07-29 Thread Casey Brown
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 5:43 PM, geni geni...@gmail.com wrote: advantage of not putting English ads on the Italian (substitute almost every non english wikipedia of your choice) wikipedia. We actually have translations of the notice in 40 languages already and more are coming in as we speak.