Re: [Foundation-l] GLAM-WIKI report

2009-08-13 Thread John at Darkstar
1. What about our mirrors and forks and reusers; do they get the same rights? How about users who want to download media dumps? This is at least two different problems, one is reuse when the content is free and the other is reuse when the content is free due to an agreement. For the moment

Re: [Foundation-l] GLAM-WIKI report

2009-08-13 Thread John at Darkstar
I stumbled upon this too during discussions with institutions in Norway, it seems like the number of times some material is accessed is a very interesting selling point. It is although not necessary to store the image any specific place for this, it is the actual statistics that is interesting.

Re: [Foundation-l] GLAM-WIKI report

2009-08-13 Thread John at Darkstar
Aggregated statistics for a complete GLAM is interesting, but it seems like they ask about usage stats and metadata about individual items. For example it is _very_ interesting that a otherwise rather anonymous photo from 1890 from the GallriNOR-collection is used in an article about Oat that has

Re: [Foundation-l] GLAM-WIKI report

2009-08-13 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, We do have those kinds of statistics already.. aggregating is important because such an overall numbers can be considered a KPI while an individual statistic is interesting. I learned that KPI is key performance indicator ... :) I still have to think what the acronym is there for Thanks,

[Foundation-l] GLAM-WIKI report

2009-08-12 Thread Tim Starling
I thought I'd better write up a report about the conference I went to last week, to justify the time I spent there. I'll give some general observations followed by some technical ones. GLAM-WIKI was a two-day conference billed as a meeting between Australia's GLAM sector (galleries, libraries,

Re: [Foundation-l] GLAM-WIKI report

2009-08-12 Thread Mathias Schindler
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 9:58 AM, Tim Starlingtstarl...@wikimedia.org wrote: As far as I know, only one speaker expressed a completely contrary opinion to the general mood of the conference, and that was Ian MacDonald of the Australian Copyright Council. He started his opening statement with

Re: [Foundation-l] GLAM-WIKI report

2009-08-12 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Thank you Tim I find I am sad for not having been there. I blogged in reply but here is its text as well. Thanks, Gerard ** Tim Starling http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Tim_Starling wrote a nice

Re: [Foundation-l] GLAM-WIKI report

2009-08-12 Thread Kat Walsh
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 3:58 AM, Tim Starlingtstarl...@wikimedia.org wrote: I tried to get a feeling for what sort of hard drive capacity we would need if the institutions in the room decided they wanted to share large amounts of content with us. Many of them have tens or hundreds of

Re: [Foundation-l] GLAM-WIKI report

2009-08-12 Thread Brianna Laugher
Thanks for your report Tim. A minor correction, 2009/8/12 Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com: Liam has a point when he suggests that we typically do not need the highest resolutions to illustrate our Wikipedias http://wikipedia.org/. But I really like the idea of Brianna where we

Re: [Foundation-l] GLAM-WIKI report

2009-08-12 Thread David Gerard
2009/8/12 Kat Walsh k...@mindspillage.org: I'm not sure what the technical challenges you had in mind are, but I can think of plenty of reasons to argue against hotlinking and I don't want to let the point slip by. A few: The ones who want hotlinking want it as a way of making the images not

Re: [Foundation-l] GLAM-WIKI report

2009-08-12 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Not necessarily. One acronym I learned was KPI, when a GLAM has as a key performance indicator the number of times a picture is actually accessed, it may affect the amount of subsidy they get. There is no reason why an image cannot be made available to the people who want that image on their

Re: [Foundation-l] GLAM-WIKI report

2009-08-12 Thread Tim Starling
Kat Walsh wrote: Thanks for the recap; sounds like the conference went pretty well. I'm not sure what the technical challenges you had in mind are, but I can think of plenty of reasons to argue against hotlinking and I don't want to let the point slip by. A few: 1. What about our mirrors

Re: [Foundation-l] GLAM-WIKI report

2009-08-12 Thread Tim Starling
Brianna Laugher wrote: The suggestion was also made that Wikimedia should revisit its restriction on NC material, and it was written down too, although I think I was thinking the same thing as every other Wikimedian in the room... For Wikimedia I think the lack of non-commercial material is

Re: [Foundation-l] GLAM-WIKI report

2009-08-12 Thread Andrew Turvey
- Mathias Schindler mathias.schind...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 9:58 AM, Tim Starlingtstarl...@wikimedia.org wrote: There is a need for bulk upload tools to be better advertised and more readily accessible. One of the institutions reported paying students to

Re: [Foundation-l] GLAM-WIKI report

2009-08-12 Thread Brion Vibber
On 8/12/09 6:18 AM, Chad wrote: Just thinking aloud here, but as to methods for accessing the content: A) Extends FileRepo to work with their data, however they happen to give us access to it B) Provide something similar to Special:Import, that will go retrieve their data and import it to a

Re: [Foundation-l] GLAM-WIKI report

2009-08-12 Thread Liam Wyatt
On 8/13/09, Andrew Turvey andrewrtur...@googlemail.com wrote: - Mathias Schindler mathias.schind...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 9:58 AM, Tim Starlingtstarl...@wikimedia.org wrote: There is a need for bulk upload tools to be better advertised and more readily