On 27 January 2011 20:30, Thomas Dalton wrote:
> On 26 January 2011 23:41, David Gerard wrote:
>> On 26 January 2011 22:54, MZMcBride wrote:
>>> Jimmy has previously made way too many off-the-cuff remarks that have gotten
>>> him into hot water to repeat that mistake again, surely.
>> *cough*S
On 26 January 2011 23:41, David Gerard wrote:
> On 26 January 2011 22:54, MZMcBride wrote:
>
>> Jimmy has previously made way too many off-the-cuff remarks that have gotten
>> him into hot water to repeat that mistake again, surely.
>
>
> *cough*Sarah Palin*cough*
Comparing Jimmy to Sarah Palin
On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 4:10 PM, CherianTinu Abraham
wrote:
> Hi all,
> As an active wikimedian from India, I am just sharing my personal take on
> the whole thing
>
>
Firstly, my apologize for my late response to this thread, due to my other
pre-occupations. I needed to catch up with the thread b
On 26 January 2011 22:54, MZMcBride wrote:
> Jimmy has previously made way too many off-the-cuff remarks that have gotten
> him into hot water to repeat that mistake again, surely.
*cough*Sarah Palin*cough*
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David Gerard wrote:
> On 26 January 2011 07:24, Jimmy Wales wrote:
>> On 1/21/11 5:46 PM, David Gerard wrote:
>>> No-one is in fact obliged to respond to you on foundation-l, indeed
>>> many WMF employees and WMF and chapter volunteers don't read it,
>>> referring instead to it as troll-l. It woul
On 26 January 2011 07:24, Jimmy Wales wrote:
> On 1/21/11 5:46 PM, David Gerard wrote:
>> No-one is in fact obliged to respond to you on foundation-l, indeed
>> many WMF employees and WMF and chapter volunteers don't read it,
>> referring instead to it as troll-l. It would be nice if this weren't
On 1/21/11 5:46 PM, David Gerard wrote:
> No-one is in fact obliged to respond to you on foundation-l, indeed
> many WMF employees and WMF and chapter volunteers don't read it,
> referring instead to it as troll-l. It would be nice if this weren't
> the case.
I know a good way to help achieve that
On 22 January 2011 04:17, CherianTinu Abraham wrote:
> Come on friend, History of India and many other civilizations of world
> started thousands of years even before that. As somebody already said
> earlier, It is not something that everyone can easily comprehend..
> Every knowledge is NOT on the
Hi all,
As an active wikimedian from India, I am just sharing my personal take on
the whole thing
1) Achal as Fellow : Some of the folks commented that it was inappropriate
for Achal Prabhala selected for this position, also being a member of the
Foundation Advisory Board. I think it is the design
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 10:21 PM, Wjhonson wrote:
>
>
> You are mistaking the problem.
> It's not that a piece of knowledge is not googleable.
> It's that a piece of knowledge is not published whatsoever.
>
> Never published. Anywhere. At any time. Ever.
> That's quite a different animal.
>
>
ianTinu Abraham
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Sent: Fri, Jan 21, 2011 8:17 pm
Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Questions about new Fellow
Come on friend, History of India and many other civilizations of world
started thousands of years even before that. As somebody already said
earlier, It i
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 11:21 PM, whothis wrote:
> I assume you probably
> had some say in selecting the current Board Member from India since you
> announced his appointment
Even though this is tangential to the main discussion, let me explain the
process through which I was appointed to the B
Come on friend, History of India and many other civilizations of world
started thousands of years even before that. As somebody already said
earlier, It is not something that everyone can easily comprehend..
Every knowledge is NOT on the internet and Google searchable :)
Sorry, No pun intended.
R
On 21 January 2011 05:59, CherianTinu Abraham wrote:
> Knowledge in olden times of India are transferred orally from Gurus (
> Teachers) to students/disciples . They are not necessarily recorded. We are
> talking about the ages even before manuscripts & paper are invented.
Paper has been around
A few things to add to this thread:
1. Achal has been a very helpful advisor (among several) to me as I've
launched WMF's work in India. In addition, he has been helpful in the
formation of the chapter in India, the chapter formation process in South
Africa and has shared some perspectives with Ch
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 11:56 PM, Erik Moeller wrote:
> 2011/1/20 whothis :
> > I hope others reading this realize the implication of your appointment. I
> > had no idea who you were before this, and still don't
>
> I had no idea who you were before this. Then I checked my mail
> archives and saw
On 21 January 2011 21:11, MZMcBride wrote:
To try to answer your concern, somewhat, as I understand it, rather
than just tut at your tone (which is of course an annoying thing to
do):
The Advisory Board is basically specialist volunteers who’ve signed up
to be bothered about stuff if the board
Birgitte SB wrote:
> This isn't the first time someone who perceived your tone negatively has
> written about it seeking a remedy. Perhaps the fault is not with David's nor
> Nathan's perception skills.
>
> Perhaps you might find more success if you change your approach in the
> following ways.
>
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Florence Devouard wrote:
> I really fail to see how being an advisory board member could in any
> sense create a conflict of interest. As the term very well describes it,
> advisory board members are merely advisors not decision makers.
> Just as *any* communit
- Original Message
> From: MZMcBride
> To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List
> Sent: Fri, January 21, 2011 12:15:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Questions about new Fellow
>
> Nathan wrote:
> > Honestly, I don't see how you could expect a better s
2011/1/20 whothis :
> I hope others reading this realize the implication of your appointment. I
> had no idea who you were before this, and still don't
I had no idea who you were before this. Then I checked my mail
archives and saw that the only other thread you've been engaged in was
a different
Nathan wrote:
> Honestly, I don't see how you could expect a better set of answers
> given your approach. You're not a prosecutor, and you have no right to
> interrogate him about whatever "improprieties" you and your supposedly
> like-minded (but anonymous and uncounted) associates perceive. You'r
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 11:32 PM, Florence Devouard wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 12:23 PM, MZMcBride wrote:
> >
> >> Hi.
> >>
> >> As Daniel noted in his earlier e-mail to the list, Achal Prabhala is now
> a
> >> Wikimedia Fellow.[1] I actually missed this announcement as it didn'
David Gerard wrote:
> You started in attack mode and continued in attack mode. This is not a
> good way to get anyone to bother talking to you.
I made an effort to not start in attack mode, as it were. I asked questions
and hoped that out of all the noise that would come in the replies, there
migh
Nathan, I understand you don't know me, but can''t you see he is exactly the
same as me, an anonymous and uncounted associate, who is as much a
shareholder, auditor as I am. The only difference is I don't lead the
Movement, I supposedly am lead by anonymous unknowns like him.
E.
On Fri, Jan 21, 2
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 12:23 PM, MZMcBride wrote:
>
>> Hi.
>>
>> As Daniel noted in his earlier e-mail to the list, Achal Prabhala is now a
>> Wikimedia Fellow.[1] I actually missed this announcement as it didn't hit
>> wikimediaannounce-l or this list (foundation-l), it apparently only go
I was going to drop this and fade away until your patronizing comments.
First, I am not a gentleman, I would be a lady, according to the
pseudo-chivalrous, patronizing tone you used in your last response.
/>/That's the spirit. And I've always felt that a waste is a terrible thing to
mind.
/>/Sett
On 21 January 2011 17:36, MZMcBride wrote:
> Your commitment to openness and transparency is ready to be transferred to a
> Twitter account. You'll have to work with Erik to make all of his openness
> and transparency fit. (In all seriousness, thank you, Erik, for the
> reports.)
You started in
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 12:36 PM, MZMcBride wrote:
> Achal Prabhala wrote:
>> In all these capacities and more.
>
> 33
>
>> That's the spirit. And I've always felt that a waste is a terrible thing
>> to mind.
>
> 81
>
> [links shortened]
>> http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=2284834#India
Achal Prabhala wrote:
> In all these capacities and more.
33
> That's the spirit. And I've always felt that a waste is a terrible thing
> to mind.
81
[links shortened]
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=2284834#India_planning
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?oldid=2284834#Indi
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 1:26 AM, Achal Prabhala wrote:
>
>
> On Friday 21 January 2011 07:26 AM, MZMcBride wrote:
>> Achal Prabhala wrote:
>>> Greetings,
>>>
>>> I'm happy to tell you a little more about myself and the scope of this
>>> short-term research project I'm undertaking, and I'm as happy
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 4:24 AM, Thomas Dalton wrote:
> On 21 January 2011 06:36, whothis wrote:
> >You can't be on an advisory board and tell a non-profit organization
> > what to do as a pro-bono advisor to the board and then get paid by the
> said
> > foundation as a fellow a few years into yo
On 21 January 2011 06:36, whothis wrote:
>You can't be on an advisory board and tell a non-profit organization
> what to do as a pro-bono advisor to the board and then get paid by the said
> foundation as a fellow a few years into your tenure, serving both positions
> at the same time.
I think yo
On 21/01/2011 03:36, whothis wrote:
> Thanks for introducing yourself Achal after so many years on the Advisory
> Board. Dare I suggest, you add part of that introduction to your Advisory
> Board page on one of the wikis. About the 5 year plan, dare I suggest you
> get around to reading that one of
Thanks for introducing yourself Achal after so many years on the Advisory
Board. Dare I suggest, you add part of that introduction to your Advisory
Board page on one of the wikis. About the 5 year plan, dare I suggest you
get around to reading that one of these days, you're on the Advisory Board
af
On Friday 21 January 2011 07:26 AM, MZMcBride wrote:
> Achal Prabhala wrote:
>> Greetings,
>>
>> I'm happy to tell you a little more about myself and the scope of this
>> short-term research project I'm undertaking, and I'm as happy to assume
>> that you fully intended for your messages to come a
Knowledge in olden times of India are transferred orally from Gurus (
Teachers) to students/disciples . They are not necessarily recorded. We are
talking about the ages even before manuscripts & paper are invented.
Regards
Tinu Cherian
On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 2:53 AM, wrote:
> In a message date
In a message dated 1/20/2011 11:37:00 AM Pacific Standard Time,
dger...@gmail.com writes:
> There's a lot of knowledge in fields which
> everyone assumes, and which are transmitted academically, but not in a
> format that teenage en:wp admins can grasp in five seconds.
>
Knowledge transmitte
Achal Prabhala wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> I'm happy to tell you a little more about myself and the scope of this
> short-term research project I'm undertaking, and I'm as happy to assume
> that you fully intended for your messages to come across as decorous and
> rational.
Hi. I appreciate you takin
On 20 January 2011 11:00, Achal Prabhala wrote:
> Now to the project. I see that neither of you gentlemen has any thoughts
> on it, and I welcome your engagement. The problem with oral knowledge
> vs. published knowledge is an old one, and there are many interesting
> ways in which the sum of pub
Thanks Achal :-)
In addition to what Achal said, it's important to note that this
fellowship was processed as a grant, and is transparently documented
at
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:WM_Fellowships/Oral_Citations
consistent with the principles of the grantmaking process. It's a
short-term
I'm looking forward to it very much. As I am certain you are too.
Fondest wishes, etc.
Achal
*whothis* whothith at gmail.com
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I agree with what he said.
After looking him up, the only qualification I can find of this person is
that he's on the advisory board, No idea, how he got there and for how long
is his "term", makes me think that maybe there is a Cabal. Most places
mirror his description on the Advisory Board page.
Hi.
As Daniel noted in his earlier e-mail to the list, Achal Prabhala is now a
Wikimedia Fellow.[1] I actually missed this announcement as it didn't hit
wikimediaannounce-l or this list (foundation-l), it apparently only got
posted to the blog, but that's not really here nor there.
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