Re: [Foundation-l] Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Stopping the presses:, , Britannica to stop printing books

2012-03-22 Thread Richard Symonds
Personal view: Nice idea, and would certainly be popular with the arbitrators - but it needs something to replace it that's slightly more complex than a dispute resolution noticeboard. It's nice to see the WMF taking over some of the more unpleasant roles that ArbCom does, but we then have no

[Foundation-l] Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Stopping the presses:, , Britannica to stop printing books

2012-03-21 Thread Robin McCain
. WikipediaLocalized? WikiDetails? WikipediaExpanded? WikipediaSuppliment? On 3/20/2012 5:24 PM, foundation-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org wrote: From: David Goodmandgge...@gmail.com To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Cc:r...@slmr.com Subject: Re

Re: [Foundation-l] Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Stopping the presses:, , Britannica to stop printing books

2012-03-21 Thread Kim Bruning
But what to call it? Wikipedia2 doesn't have much flavor. WikipediaLocalized? WikiDetails? WikipediaExpanded? WikipediaSuppliment? On 3/20/2012 5:24 PM, foundation-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org wrote: From: David Goodmandgge...@gmail.com What I suggest is a '''Wikipedia Two'' - an

[Foundation-l] Subject: Re: Will Beback

2012-03-11 Thread James Heilman
Great now if only that where true. With the vote being 8:4 and my understanding of the situation I am fairly certain it is not. The editors with a medical background on the committee did not support the ban of Will. As this controversy surrounded medical content their positions should be given

Re: [Foundation-l] Subject: Re: Will Beback

2012-03-11 Thread Risker
James, perhaps a more appropriate place to have this conversation is either at the English Wikipedia Arbitration Committee noticeboard, or alternately if you want a different audience, the Wiki-en-L mailing list. Your issue is project-specific and there are more appropriate venues for you to

Re: [Foundation-l] Subject: Re: The 'Undue Weight' of Truth on Wikipedia, (from the Chronicle) + some citation discussions

2012-02-24 Thread Ray Saintonge
On 02/22/12 6:04 PM, David Goodman wrote: There are many subjects in which there would be multiple schools of thought with little agreement; anyone following book reviews in the humanities or social sciences or even some of the sciences would know the intensity with which the highest level

Re: [Foundation-l] Subject: Re: The 'Undue Weight' of Truth on Wikipedia, (from the Chronicle) + some citation discussions

2012-02-24 Thread Thomas Morton
to be exempt from this kind of academic discourse. We owe it to our readers to provide a clear and fair-minded presentation of these differences. Isn't that what David is saying? That if we allowed partisans to hold sway by virtue of their expertise in the subject we are not going to get a fair minded

Re: [Foundation-l] Subject: Re: The 'Undue Weight' of Truth on Wikipedia, (from the Chronicle) + some citation discussions

2012-02-24 Thread Fred Bauder
to be exempt from this kind of academic discourse. We owe it to our readers to provide a clear and fair-minded presentation of these differences. Isn't that what David is saying? That if we allowed partisans to hold sway by virtue of their expertise in the subject we are not going to get a fair

Re: [Foundation-l] Subject: Re: The 'Undue Weight' of Truth on Wikipedia, (from the Chronicle) + some citation discussions

2012-02-23 Thread Achal Prabhala
been given to understand that the quality of the peer review process varies greatly. About 10 years back, I was briefly involved in an attempt to develop an online peer reviewed publications infrastructure. This was one of our concerns - is it better to have 10 second tier subject matter experts

[Foundation-l] Subject: Re: The 'Undue Weight' of Truth on Wikipedia, (from the Chronicle) + some citation discussions

2012-02-22 Thread Robin McCain
that person(s) had a vested interest in the subject of that content. Whether peer reviewed or evaluated by a subject matter expert - printed matter has always had some sort of editorial process. That isn't to say we should necessarily trust the motives of that editorial process. Propaganda

Re: [Foundation-l] Subject: Re: The 'Undue Weight' of Truth on Wikipedia, (from the Chronicle) + some citation discussions

2012-02-22 Thread David Goodman
I was one of the initial subject editors at Citizendium. One of its key problems was the poor choice of subject matter experts. The selection of which people to trust was ultimately in the hands of the founder, and he was unduly impressed by formal academic credentials without concerning himself

Re: [Foundation-l] Subject: Re: The 'Undue Weight' of Truth on Wikipedia, (from the Chronicle) + some citation discussions

2012-02-22 Thread Robin McCain
- is it better to have 10 second tier subject matter experts vote on whether or not to publish an article or rely solely on the opinion of one first tier expert (who might bitterly detest the author of the work under scrutiny for reasons not at all connected with the quality of the article). Perhaps a better

[Foundation-l] Subject: Re: Subject: Re: Vendetta?

2011-12-16 Thread Robin McCain
Bauderfredb...@fairpoint.net Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Subject: Re: Vendetta? To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Message-ID: 42740.66.243.192.69.1323974656.squir...@webmail.fairpoint.net Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 It isn't so

[Foundation-l] Subject: Re: Vendetta?

2011-12-15 Thread Robin McCain
, foundation-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org wrote: Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 06:37:58 -0700 (MST) From: Fred Bauderfredb...@fairpoint.net Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Vendetta? To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Message-ID

Re: [Foundation-l] Subject: Re: Vendetta?

2011-12-15 Thread Fred Bauder
It isn't so much about having my stuff edited as it is that there seems to be a mindset among en.wp editors that stuff needs to be deleted unless they personally think it is important. We have a virtually infinite space in which to write and add to the body of knowledge, so why act as though

Re: [Foundation-l] Subject: Re: Vendetta?

2011-12-15 Thread The Cunctator
In other words, Wikipedia does not have space for what you find interesting. Sorry. On 12/15/11, Fred Bauder fredb...@fairpoint.net wrote: It isn't so much about having my stuff edited as it is that there seems to be a mindset among en.wp editors that stuff needs to be deleted unless they

Re: [Foundation-l] Subject: Re: Vendetta?

2011-12-15 Thread Fred Bauder
In other words, Wikipedia does not have space for what you find interesting. Sorry. A summary of generally accepted knowledge is a foundation for creative new information. Wikipedia is a tool, a tool meant to be used and transcended. Fred ___

[Foundation-l] (no subject)

2011-10-10 Thread Geoffrey Plourde
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[Foundation-l] Subject: Re: Dead Sea Scrolls

2011-10-04 Thread Robin McCain
On 10/4/2011 9:04 AM, foundation-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org wrote: issue of originality. The Qimron case is completely irrelevant with regard to the copyright of the images. ?It is a case about the*text*. If WMF wants to copy*the text* of the scrolls, I don't think anyone is going

[Foundation-l] Subject: Re: Dead Sea Scrolls

2011-09-29 Thread Robin McCain
An entertaining discussion - let's see if I understand the essence of the thread... Facts: High resolution photos (of the Dead Sea Scrolls) were recently released under an Israeli copyright. (Obviously this does not constitute copyright of the scrolls themselves.) A great deal of technical and

[Foundation-l] (no subject)

2011-07-31 Thread kim spachman
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2011-02-28 Thread Bence Damokos
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[Foundation-l] (no subject)

2010-01-28 Thread TANMAY SARKAR
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[Foundation-l] (no subject)

2010-01-03 Thread kometbr...@netzero.net
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Re: [Foundation-l] (no subject)

2010-01-03 Thread C F
wtf? On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 6:05 PM, kometbr...@netzero.net kometbr...@netzero.net wrote: Kimberly Brown 310 310-5477-Cell 301 622-2469-Home ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe:

Re: [Foundation-l] (no subject)

2010-01-03 Thread Casey Brown
On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 7:56 PM, C F shma...@gmail.com wrote: wtf? Sometimes people send blank e-mails by accident, it's best to just ignore them. -- Casey Brown Cbrown1023 ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe:

Re: [Foundation-l] (no subject)

2010-01-03 Thread C F
With 2 personal phone numbers? Nevermind it seems that one of them has the wrong area code (although I might be wrong), which suggests that the phone numbers were the only things intended for that email. On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 8:06 PM, Casey Brown li...@caseybrown.org wrote: On Sun, Jan 3, 2010

Re: [Foundation-l] (no subject)

2010-01-03 Thread Andre Engels
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 2:23 AM, C F shma...@gmail.com wrote: With 2 personal phone numbers? Nevermind it seems that one of them has the wrong area code (although I might be wrong), which suggests that the phone numbers were the only things intended for that email. Those are probably just their

Re: [Foundation-l] (no subject)

2010-01-03 Thread C F
On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 8:38 PM, Andre Engels andreeng...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 2:23 AM, C F shma...@gmail.com wrote: With 2 personal phone numbers? Nevermind it seems that one of them has the wrong area code (although I might be wrong), which suggests that the phone numbers

Re: [Foundation-l] (no subject)

2009-12-15 Thread Mike.lifeguard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sorry to be blunt but, Why is this question so Wikipedia-centric? Other projects have proved ideal testing grounds for usability and such. Because Wikipedia is the cash cow. I was going to rant, but it became too depressing because it wouldn't

Re: [Foundation-l] (no subject)

2009-10-27 Thread Mike.lifeguard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Issue 1: The official and public description of CheckUser lays out a transparent process for justifying when and how it may be used. In practice, it is often used in secret and quick back door process. First issue is the misrepresentation to the

Re: [Foundation-l] (no subject)

2009-10-27 Thread David Gerard
2009/10/27 Mike.lifeguard mike.lifegu...@gmail.com: You are a long way from proving your point, but I would encourage you to make that request on the talk page of the CheckUser policy page on English Wikipedia so it can be pointed out that while there is a public request process, most

Re: [Foundation-l] (no subject)

2009-10-14 Thread jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 9:11 PM, Gregory Kohs thekoh...@gmail.com wrote: It strikes me that this is something that Creative Commons or other organizations with Godwin-like attorneys should be aggressively pursuing, but we didn't hear from any of them in the original thread, did we?  Mike,

[Foundation-l] (no subject)

2009-02-20 Thread g t
Dear Sir,   I received your email. I am pleased to know that you are interested in this area. I give you the way to invest in Vietnam effectively.   The Vietnam policy is to attract foreign investers. So you have many opportunities to enrich in Vietnam. You don't have to worry about the law in

[Foundation-l] (no subject)

2009-02-07 Thread Ronald Studebaker
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[Foundation-l] (no subject)

2009-01-05 Thread Shannon Miller
Creating a universal online language should include cross references like music and photography. Is it possible to provide links within wiki pages written in moribund languages to established blog topics within whichever given country the user wishes to view?

Re: [Foundation-l] which is the year's subject?

2008-12-29 Thread Brian
[[Barack Obama]] [[Induced pluripotent stem cell]] Next years will be [[Large hadron collider]] :) On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 6:52 PM, Crazy Lover always_yours.fore...@yahoo.com wrote: What subject, can be consider the year's subject? C.m.l

Re: [Foundation-l] which is the year's subject?

2008-12-29 Thread effe iets anders
[[me]] 2008/12/30 Brian brian.min...@colorado.edu [[Barack Obama]] [[Induced pluripotent stem cell]] Next years will be [[Large hadron collider]] :) On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 6:52 PM, Crazy Lover always_yours.fore...@yahoo.com wrote: What subject, can be consider the year's subject

Re: [Foundation-l] which is the year's subject?

2008-12-29 Thread John Vandenberg
On 12/30/08, Crazy Lover always_yours.fore...@yahoo.com wrote: What subject, can be consider the year's subject? [[Wikisource]] :-) -- John Vandenberg ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https