Re: [Foundation-l] How to contact the foundation's legal department?

2010-12-18 Thread Federico Leva (Nemo)
Dan Rosenthal, 17/12/2010 01:01: If you have a legal question, best to send it to legal...@wikimedia.org. It will be routed much faster and is much preferable. Please stop it: this is incorrect and perhaps you should at least double check if someone says it's incorrect, especially after a WMF

Re: [Foundation-l] How to contact the foundation's legal department?

2010-12-18 Thread Huib Laurens
Hi, I would say when you aren't sure or you think you are sure but don't have a source just don't answer? Best, Huib ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] How to contact the foundation's legal department?

2010-12-18 Thread Dan Rosenthal
Nemo, It is in fact correct. I can confirm this, because I am the primary person who screens those questions that come in to legal-en. Sue or Steven can correct me if I'm wrong on this, but I'm 99% sure that they misspoke -- le...@wikimedia has been a broken and useless address for long

Re: [Foundation-l] How to contact the foundation's legal department?

2010-12-18 Thread Dan Rosenthal
Jon, That must be a new change about le...@wikimedia.org, as the email didn't work as of a few weeks ago. I wasn't aware of that. However, from a policy perspective, we've always screened the email first at legal...@wikimedia.org before sending it on to the GC. So in fact, that would still

Re: [Foundation-l] How to contact the foundation's legal department?

2010-12-18 Thread Dan Rosenthal
Correction. I've just seen Jon's email about having fixed le...@. However, it is still preferable to send legal email to legal...@wikimedia.org for a faster resolution and for ease on our end. Nobody has made the OTRS team (especially the legal team) aware of any policy changes on that end, so

Re: [Foundation-l] How to contact the foundation's legal department?

2010-12-18 Thread Huib Laurens
Why are you saying the staff answer is wrong? If staff says use le...@wikimedia.org why are you changing it? Best, Huib 2010/12/18 Dan Rosenthal swatjes...@gmail.com Correction. I've just seen Jon's email about having fixed le...@. However, it is still preferable to send legal email to

Re: [Foundation-l] How to contact the foundation's legal department?

2010-12-18 Thread Pedro Sanchez
On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Huib Laurens sterke...@gmail.com wrote: Why are you saying the staff answer is wrong? If staff says use le...@wikimedia.org why are you changing it? Best, Huib wasn't legal-en@ about english queries? in any case, it makes more sense to have legal@ for a

Re: [Foundation-l] How to contact the foundation's legal department?

2010-12-18 Thread Dan Rosenthal
Pedro- Correct, it's just set up wrong on OTRS. Right now Legal@ is not even an OTRS email address. If it were, we could then structure it so the languages were subqueues. But that'd require legal@ becoming an OTRS email address. Huib - The staff (myself and Jon) are saying two different,

Re: [Foundation-l] How to contact the foundation's legal department?

2010-12-18 Thread Casey Brown
On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 5:13 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: Please stop it: this is incorrect and perhaps you should at least double check if someone says it's incorrect, especially after a WMF staffer like Jon has confirmed so. On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 12:21 PM, Huib

Re: [Foundation-l] How to contact the foundation's legal department?

2010-12-18 Thread Dan Rosenthal
Kibble, you never cease to amaze. Much 3. That's a great summary. -Dan On Dec 18, 2010, at 2:24 PM, Casey Brown wrote: On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 5:13 AM, Federico Leva (Nemo) nemow...@gmail.com wrote: Please stop it: this is incorrect and perhaps you should at least double check if someone

Re: [Foundation-l] How to contact the foundation's legal department?

2010-12-18 Thread Jon Davis
My bad. Casey is 100% correct. I was simply giving the technical answer, as the user asked for the legal department - not to say that this is the best answer. In the grand scheme of things, If Dan says Yes, Legal@ works but you should use legal-en@ instead - listen to Dan. He knows what he's

Re: [Foundation-l] How to contact the foundation's legal department?

2010-12-16 Thread Huib Laurens
Hello, As far as I know: le...@wikimedia.org Best, Huib ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] How to contact the foundation's legal department?

2010-12-16 Thread Jim Redmond
On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 06:12, Strainu strain...@gmail.com wrote: How can one contact the Foundation's legal department nowadays? I can find no contact email address, just the WMF Legal user account and I would rather not leave a message on the talk page. Why are you trying to contact them?

Re: [Foundation-l] How to contact the foundation's legal department?

2010-12-16 Thread Dan Rosenthal
That email is incorrect. The direct email is legal...@wikimedia.org. As far as I know, simply le...@wikimedia.org forwards to bo...@wikimedia.org or some other email address; either way, not where it needs to go. -Dan On Dec 16, 2010, at 7:19 AM, Huib Laurens wrote: Hello, As far as I

Re: [Foundation-l] How to contact the foundation's legal department?

2010-12-16 Thread Jon Davis
I've been taking care of these aliases, so to be clear: * le...@wikimedia.org is a good and valid address to use*. It is an alias that goes to the correct person(s), being our interim legal council. When we get a new full time council, the alias will be repointed to them. So le...@wikimedia.org

Re: [Foundation-l] How to contact the foundation's legal department?

2010-12-16 Thread K. Peachey
WMF Legal has a email assigned to it, so you can email it via the wiki interface if you would like: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:EmailUser/WMF_Legal ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe:

Re: [Foundation-l] How to contact the foundation's legal department?

2010-12-16 Thread Dan Rosenthal
That might work, but it is the least ideal way of getting in touch. If you have a legal question, best to send it to legal...@wikimedia.org. It will be routed much faster and is much preferable. -Dan On Dec 16, 2010, at 6:29 PM, K. Peachey wrote: WMF Legal has a email assigned to it, so you