Re: [Foundation-l] Making wikimediafoundation.org more open to contributions

2011-02-01 Thread Fred Bauder
Changing the url from meta.wikimedia.org to plain vanilla wikimedia.org would be one of the last steps, actually. Thanks, Richard (User:Pharos) See http://www.wikimedia.org/ Fred ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Foundation-l] Making wikimediafoundation.org more open to contributions

2011-02-01 Thread KIZU Naoko
Respectfully disagreed re: change from meta to plain wikimedia.org It would be of our convenience but other projects specially non-Wikipedia ones might be weakened their presence. As an invididual Wikiquotian, I'm afraid of that. On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 3:40 AM, Pharos

Re: [Foundation-l] Making wikimediafoundation.org more open to contributions

2011-01-31 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 30 January 2011 18:02, Noein prono...@gmail.com wrote: On 30/01/2011 13:10, koteche mcintosh wrote: People choose to donate just like before. But on a regular basis. everyone can see the fund. Everyone is part of the story. this GALVANIZES support. Shoes governments the POWER of public

Re: [Foundation-l] Making wikimediafoundation.org more open to contributions

2011-01-31 Thread Thomas Dalton
On 28 January 2011 20:33, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote: Such a solution would make it easier to fold separate wikis (such as a conference wiki) back into Meta when we were done with them, too. Why fold them into meta afterwards rather than just use Meta from the beginning? Isn't

Re: [Foundation-l] Making wikimediafoundation.org more open to contributions

2011-01-31 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The milk has spilled so it is time to mop up. As we gain more experience, we learn that having new wikis is often a bad idea in the long run. We live we learn.. Thanks, GerardM On 31 January 2011 14:25, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: On 28 January 2011 20:33, phoebe

Re: [Foundation-l] Making wikimediafoundation.org more open to contributions

2011-01-31 Thread Philippe Beaudette
I would say that (as Erik said) in some cases it's a good idea. I doubt that we could have done the work we did on Strategy wiki, had it been housed on meta. Some wikis wish to set different standards for what can be included, and that's difficult to do if you have an extant wiki that has its

Re: [Foundation-l] Making wikimediafoundation.org more open to contributions

2011-01-31 Thread koteche mcintosh
A) This is completely off-topic. B) It sounds like exactly what we already have. (Recurring donations are new, but are now an option - with the exception of some Teir 1 chapter countries.) Really? It is the most pressing topic of our times. Surely you can see that. And you can see how pissed

Re: [Foundation-l] Making wikimediafoundation.org more open to contributions

2011-01-30 Thread Samuel Klein
Thank you MZM, for making those long-needed changes! That made my day. On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 3:33 PM, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 12:19 PM, Pharos pharosofalexand...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Aaron Adrignola

Re: [Foundation-l] Making wikimediafoundation.org more open to contributions

2011-01-30 Thread Sage Ross
On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 11:28 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: Suggested principle: stuff should go on meta unless there's a very good reason for it not to. The strategy and usability stuff should have been on meta or mediawiki.org in the first place, for example. A wiki for every

Re: [Foundation-l] Making wikimediafoundation.org more open to contributions

2011-01-30 Thread David Gerard
On 30 January 2011 16:00, Sage Ross ragesoss+wikipe...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 11:28 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: Suggested principle: stuff should go on meta unless there's a very good reason for it not to. The strategy and usability stuff should have been on

Re: [Foundation-l] Making wikimediafoundation.org more open to contributions

2011-01-30 Thread koteche mcintosh
How realistic is that? Things change and this is completely voluntary. It just means Wiki can branch out into-film making supporting initiatives and communities in places where light needs to shine. Gets people motivated. At the moment Wiki stands for everything!!! People are looking up to it as

Re: [Foundation-l] Making wikimediafoundation.org more open to contributions

2011-01-30 Thread Stephanie Daugherty
I think one thing that would help tremendously would be to decide on a convention, be it subpages, or pseudo-namespaces, or a combination of the two for grouping related content on meta and stick to it. When a separate wiki is needed for technology demonstration, figure out (probably through an

Re: [Foundation-l] Making wikimediafoundation.org more open to contributions

2011-01-30 Thread Noein
On 30/01/2011 13:10, koteche mcintosh wrote: People choose to donate just like before. But on a regular basis. everyone can see the fund. Everyone is part of the story. this GALVANIZES support. Shoes governments the POWER of public opinion. Creates a virtual community striving for

Re: [Foundation-l] Making wikimediafoundation.org more open to contributions

2011-01-30 Thread koteche mcintosh
Better put!!! Except for the ads, it's an excellent idea. Transparent, online access to accounts and a permanently donating community. It does not mean that there will be a change in the business modal (free and accessible) but it will give the wiki community (all people that use and contribute

Re: [Foundation-l] Making wikimediafoundation.org more open to contributions

2011-01-30 Thread koteche mcintosh
NO ADS just KNOWLEDGE! On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 8:35 PM, koteche mcintosh kotechemcint...@gmail.com wrote: Better put!!! Except for the ads, it's an excellent idea. Transparent, online access to accounts and a permanently donating community. It does not mean that there will be a change in

Re: [Foundation-l] Making wikimediafoundation.org more open to contributions

2011-01-29 Thread phoebe ayers
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 9:21 PM, Keegan Peterzell keegan.w...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 2:33 PM, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote: I think it would do us a lot of good to be able to recombine all of these topics so when we are looking for a calendar or a presentation

Re: [Foundation-l] Making wikimediafoundation.org more open to contributions

2011-01-29 Thread David Gerard
On 29 January 2011 16:20, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote: Having many wikis is an ongoing source of irritation for many, and it would be great to resolve this issue. Are there good arguments *for* having separate sites? Or at least for not recombining them into meta with a redirect

Re: [Foundation-l] Making wikimediafoundation.org more open to contributions

2011-01-29 Thread Erik Moeller
2011/1/29 phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com: Having many wikis is an ongoing source of irritation for many, and it would be great to resolve this issue. Are there good arguments *for* having separate sites? Yes, and I think most people generally underestimate the complexity of the issue. The

Re: [Foundation-l] Making wikimediafoundation.org more open to contributions

2011-01-29 Thread koteche mcintosh
Why can't people pay £2 per month and be a member of Wiki-everything! Better than [pledging. Have a on line active site that tells you what is going on how much money there is! Get a members package? What do you think?! On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 5:13 AM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote:

Re: [Foundation-l] Making wikimediafoundation.org more open to contributions

2011-01-29 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 12:46 AM, koteche mcintosh kotechemcint...@gmail.com wrote: Why can't people pay £2 per month and be a member of Wiki-everything! Better than [pledging. Have a on line active site that tells you what is going on how much money there is! Get a members package?

Re: [Foundation-l] Making wikimediafoundation.org more open to contributions

2011-01-28 Thread Aaron Adrignola
I agree that the edit restrictions on the WMF wiki are very unfortunate and there's still much more that can be done (perhaps one day leading toward www.wikimedia.org as a single information, collaboration and discussion hub, subsuming both WMF and Meta, and possibly other backstage wikis).

Re: [Foundation-l] Making wikimediafoundation.org more open to contributions

2011-01-28 Thread Pharos
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Aaron Adrignola aaron.adrign...@gmail.com wrote: I agree that the edit restrictions on the WMF wiki are very unfortunate and there's still much more that can be done (perhaps one day leading toward www.wikimedia.org as a single information, collaboration and

Re: [Foundation-l] Making wikimediafoundation.org more open to contributions

2011-01-28 Thread phoebe ayers
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 12:19 PM, Pharos pharosofalexand...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 9:27 AM, Aaron Adrignola aaron.adrign...@gmail.com wrote: I agree that the edit restrictions on the WMF wiki are very unfortunate and there's still much more that can be done (perhaps one day

Re: [Foundation-l] Making wikimediafoundation.org more open to contributions

2011-01-28 Thread Keegan Peterzell
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 2:33 PM, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote: I think it would do us a lot of good to be able to recombine all of these topics so when we are looking for a calendar or a presentation bank or a list of media or whatever there is ONE place to go, not five. Such a

Re: [Foundation-l] Making wikimediafoundation.org more open to contributions

2011-01-27 Thread Erik Moeller
2011/1/27 MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com: In the spirit of being bold, I've taken a number of steps to correct what I view as deficiencies in the current contribution system, all of which I'll outline in this e-mail. If anyone has objections to these changes, they're more than welcome to revert

Re: [Foundation-l] Making wikimediafoundation.org more open to contributions

2011-01-27 Thread Philippe Beaudette
On Jan 27, 2011, at 7:58 PM, MZMcBride wrote this plus some other stuff: Hi. When wikimediafoundation.org was first established (as a fishbowl wiki), there were concerns expressed about its lack of open editing. For one of the most prominent wiki and community-based organizations to have

Re: [Foundation-l] Making wikimediafoundation.org more open to contributions

2011-01-27 Thread James Alexander
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 12:34 AM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: 2011/1/27 MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com: In the spirit of being bold, I've taken a number of steps to correct what I view as deficiencies in the current contribution system, all of which I'll outline in this e-mail.

Re: [Foundation-l] Making wikimediafoundation.org more open to contributions

2011-01-27 Thread theo10011
Great Work, MZ. One small point, the buttons on foundation wiki redirect to a the page we get on FWF page on Meta, the edit page has a newly created header that includes Wikimedia is not associated with Wikileaks. I think the confusion with Wikileaks issue is ephemeral and is not as common

Re: [Foundation-l] Making wikimediafoundation.org more open to contributions

2011-01-27 Thread KIZU Naoko
I rather welcome these changes. Also I support improvement on Meta feedback pages: a single page seems a better solution in these days. Historically the foundation wiki was restricted just for avoiding spams, as far as I understood. Later we found some users who were proud of the foundation