Re: [Foundation-l] a heads-up on Wikimedia France's adventures with the Frenc...

2009-09-30 Thread David Gerard
2009/9/30 wiki-li...@phizz.demon.co.uk: David Gerard wrote: But getting back to the case in question - we're talking about the sort of museum that's actually a government sub-department. Thus, public domain images that the taxpayer has *already paid for*. I see nothing whatsoever

[Foundation-l] Consensus on Meta for suspecting every volunteer of abuse ?

2009-09-30 Thread Teofilo
Make the following experience: Go to Gmail and create a new account on Gmail. Does Google tell you after you have created your new account : We are ready to have a conflict relationship with YOU ? We have an Abuse Log ready for YOU ? Now go to meta.wikimedia.org (1), create a new account there

Re: [Foundation-l] a heads-up on Wikimedia France's adventures with the Frenc...

2009-09-30 Thread Teofilo
I should have said it in my previous message : the first and foremost priority for France, is that Government-owned museums allow visitors who paid their entrance ticket to carry a camera and take pictures of paintings and sculptures when the painters and sculptors died more than 70 years ago. In

Re: [Foundation-l] a heads-up on Wikimedia France's adventures with the Frenc...

2009-09-30 Thread Teofilo
That was not the right link. Good link : http://web.archive.org/web/20050208203749/http://www.museeguimet.fr/pages/page_id18315_u1l2.htm 2009/9/30, Teofilo teofilow...@gmail.com: (1) http://web.archive.org/web/20050305062057/www.museeguimet.fr/homes/home_id20392_u1l2.htm

Re: [Foundation-l] a heads-up on Wikimedia France's adventures with the Frenc...

2009-09-30 Thread Marco Chiesa
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 4:55 PM, Teofilo teofilow...@gmail.com wrote: I should have said it in my previous message : the first and foremost priority for France, is that Government-owned museums allow visitors who paid their entrance ticket to carry a camera and take pictures of paintings and

Re: [Foundation-l] Office hours

2009-09-30 Thread Waerth
There are people living in Asia and Australia as well actually ... you know! Oh wait they aren't Western people so why bother .. W Best option would be to have two sets, one for Europe and one for the Americas. From: Cary Bass c...@wikimedia.org

Re: [Foundation-l] Office hours

2009-09-30 Thread Thomas Dalton
2009/9/30 Waerth wae...@asianet.co.th: There are people living in Asia and Australia as well actually ... you know! Oh wait they aren't Western people so why bother .. I am well aware of the existence of Asia and Australia. I have been to several Asian countries - I definitely remember

Re: [Foundation-l] Consensus on Meta for suspecting every volunteer of abuse ?

2009-09-30 Thread effe iets anders
sure it would, and maybe it would be an improvement. But the mere fact that the log is there, I don't see as a problem. Also, realize that the average newbee will not even look at the contributions page... 2009/9/30 Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 17:22,

Re: [Foundation-l] Office hours ... the concept of time zones

2009-09-30 Thread Waerth
Basically if there is room for two sets of office hours it should still be possible to please most of the world. There are times when Europe/Africa and the Americas overlap. And there are times when East Asia/Australia and the Americas overlap There are no hours that all 3 of these rough

Re: [Foundation-l] Office hours ... the concept of time zones

2009-09-30 Thread Waerth
Thomas Dalton wrote: 2009/9/30 Waerth wae...@asianet.co.th: Basically if there is room for two sets of office hours it should still be possible to please most of the world. There are times when Europe/Africa and the Americas overlap. And there are times when East Asia/Australia and the

Re: [Foundation-l] Office hours ... the concept of time zones

2009-09-30 Thread Robert Rohde
Really, this all feels very simple to me. You take the earliest time in the morning and the latest time in the afternoon that people working in an office in San Francisco are will to accommodate. Will that satisfy everyone? No. However picking times at the start and the end of the business day

Re: [Foundation-l] Consensus on Meta for suspecting every volunteer of abuse ?

2009-09-30 Thread Tim Landscheidt
Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: Of course Google has this kind of logs. However, Google is just not transparant about it. Being transparent is nice and important, but being it is just as important to be nice. Filter log is just as correct and transparent as abuse log,

Re: [Foundation-l] Consensus on Meta for suspecting every volunteer of abuse ?

2009-09-30 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 2:49 PM, Tim Landscheidt t...@tim-landscheidt.de wrote:  So, should we find a term that is suitable for all six billion people on this planet, or should we covertly prefer users who are curious enough to just click on that link to find out what's behind it? Obviously

Re: [Foundation-l] a heads-up on Wikimedia France's adventures with the Frenc...

2009-09-30 Thread Ray Saintonge
Marco Chiesa wrote: On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 4:55 PM, Teofilo wrote: I should have said it in my previous message : the first and foremost priority for France, is that Government-owned museums allow visitors who paid their entrance ticket to carry a camera and take pictures of paintings

Re: [Foundation-l] Consensus on Meta for suspecting every volunteer of abuse ?

2009-09-30 Thread Tim Landscheidt
Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: [...] Most importantly, don't forget that you know what the abuse log is and you know that it's harmless, but newbies don't know it. Many newbies got really scared when they saw Windows 95's error messages about applications that performed

Re: [Foundation-l] a heads-up on Wikimedia France's adventures with the Frenc...

2009-09-30 Thread wiki-lists
wjhon...@aol.com wrote: -Original Message- From: wiki-li...@phizz.demon.co.uk To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Tue, Sep 29, 2009 5:31 pm Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] a heads-up on Wikimedia France's adventures with the Frenc...

Re: [Foundation-l] a heads-up on Wikimedia France's adventures with the Frenc...

2009-09-30 Thread wjhonson
-Original Message- From: wiki-li...@phizz.demon.co.uk To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Wed, Sep 30, 2009 2:58 pm Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] a heads-up on Wikimedia France's adventures with the Frenc... wjhon...@aol.com wrote:

Re: [Foundation-l] a heads-up on Wikimedia France's adventures with the Frenc...

2009-09-30 Thread wiki-lists
Teofilo wrote: I should have said it in my previous message : the first and foremost priority for France, is that Government-owned museums allow visitors who paid their entrance ticket to carry a camera and take pictures of paintings and sculptures when the painters and sculptors died more

[Foundation-l] Reminder, office hours at 1600 UTC tomorrow (10/1/09).

2009-09-30 Thread Cary Bass
Hi all, this is a reminder that office hours will be tomorrow, Thursday, October 1, at 1600 UTC (9:00 AM PDT) and feature Rand Montoya. The IRC channel that will be hosting Rand's conversation will be #wikimedia-office on the Freenode network. If you do not have an IRC client, you can always

Re: [Foundation-l] a heads-up on Wikimedia France's adventures with the Frenc...

2009-09-30 Thread wjhonson
-Original Message- From: wiki-li...@phizz.demon.co.uk To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Wed, Sep 30, 2009 4:17 pm Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] a heads-up on Wikimedia France's adventures with the Frenc... wjhon...@aol.com wrote:

Re: [Foundation-l] a heads-up on Wikimedia France's adventures with the Frenc...

2009-09-30 Thread wiki-lists
wjhon...@aol.com wrote: -Original Message- From: wiki-li...@phizz.demon.co.uk To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Wed, Sep 30, 2009 4:17 pm Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] a heads-up on Wikimedia France's adventures with the Frenc...

Re: [Foundation-l] a heads-up on Wikimedia France's adventures with the Frenc...

2009-09-30 Thread wjhonson
I think everyone is probably a bit tired of this topic so this will be my last response. You keep positing that someone is espousing that the museums have to actively participate in providing copies of something to someone.? Has somebody claimed that?? If they did, it wasn't me.? I have never