Re: [Foundation-l] Site notice suggestion needed.

2008-12-05 Thread Alex
to decrease significantly on weekends) [1] http://dammit.lt/wikistats/ Caution: fairly large page [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mr.Z-man/views -- Alex (wikipedia:en:User:Mr.Z-man) ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Foundation-l] GFDL QA update and question

2009-01-08 Thread Alex
-compliant and we have no idea that they exist or they want to be compliant, read the terms of the GFDL, and decide not to bother with our content. -- Alex (wikipedia:en:User:Mr.Z-man) ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Foundation-l] Remembering the People (was Fundraiser update)

2009-01-08 Thread Alex
to be suppressing criticism? Forcibly change policies? Act as proxies for people afraid of criticism? I'm struggling to think of anything that could be done on a foundation level that would be effective here. Alex (wikipedia:en:User:Mr.Z-man) ___ foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Remembering the People (was Fundraiser update)

2009-01-08 Thread Alex
Marc Riddell wrote: on 1/8/09 11:02 PM, Alex at mrzmanw...@gmail.com wrote: And how is the foundation supposed to resolve this? Counsel people into changing their opinions? Ban people who appear to be suppressing criticism? Forcibly change policies? Act as proxies for people afraid

Re: [Foundation-l] GFDL QA update and question

2009-01-09 Thread Alex
and one reference to the section. There might be a way to use one of the clauses to do this but it would be darn hard and the foundation has made statements that it won't use the relevant clause. Its actually the GFDL that has the 5 principle authors thing, section 4. -- Alex

Re: [Foundation-l] transparency or translucency?

2009-01-10 Thread Alex
their usefulness to the projects. The biggest departure from that principle is that most of the day-to-day running isn't done on the mailing lists, mostly everything at the project-level is done on-wiki on discussion pages. -- Alex (wikipedia:en:User:Mr.Z-man

Re: [Foundation-l] Why is the software out of reach of the community?

2009-01-10 Thread Alex
principle that I am aware of? A simple procedure? Yes, disabling the extension would be rather simple, repairing the thousands of templates that would be broken in the process, not so much. -- Alex (wikipedia:en:User:Mr.Z-man) ___ foundation-l mailing list

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikia leasing office space to WMF

2009-01-24 Thread Alex
everything easier. OTOH I encourage you to review selinux. That would make a great heading 'Nikola Smolenski discovers NSA backdoor on Linux code' This is getting rather off-topic, especially for this thread, and possibly for the list as well. -- Alex (wikipedia:en:User:Mr.Z-man

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikia leasing office space to WMF

2009-01-24 Thread Alex
: It was a clear factual error which I corrected. If you aren't going to criticize the original comment you have no basis for criticizing the correction. At any rate, what exactly is the topic of this thread, in your opinion? On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Alex mrzmanw...@gmail.com wrote

Re: [Foundation-l] Request for your input: biographies of living people

2009-03-04 Thread Alex
issues (or things like sourcing and NPOV, as long as its notable), and many people concerned about BLPs don't involve themselves in the deletion process. -- Alex (wikipedia:en:User:Mr.Z-man) ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Foundation-l] Abuse filter

2009-03-25 Thread Alex
be publicly viewable immediately. Unless the user was purposely intending to do something that he knew would be disallowed by the abuse filter, he was fully intending for whatever he wrote to be made public. -- Alex (wikipedia:en:User:Mr.Z-man) ___ foundation

Re: [Foundation-l] [WikiEN-l] Flagged revs poll take 2

2009-03-30 Thread Alex
of thousands of articles all at once is rather unrealistic. Several months ago, I told Erik on this list that enwiki would never be able to get consensus for FR, it looks like I'm wrong about that. Perhaps there's some hope left after all. -- Alex (wikipedia:en:User:Mr.Z-man

Re: [Foundation-l] Board statement regarding biographies of living people

2009-04-30 Thread Alex
not be for the board members, but I imagine for the volunteer developers and other community members who had few or no real commitments it was. -- Alex (wikipedia:en:User:Mr.Z-man) ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe

Re: [Foundation-l] Board statement regarding biographies of living people

2009-04-30 Thread Alex
Michael Bimmler wrote: On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Alex mrzmanw...@gmail.com wrote: Anthony wrote: On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Domas Mituzas midom.li...@gmail.comwrote: Actually, I'd be happy if you were right (and you probably are!) - it shows, that lots of people had

Re: [Foundation-l] Cross-wiki articles

2009-05-02 Thread Alex
. At this point, even the best compromise proposal would likely mean major changes for some projects. And on the largest projects, even a small change to the primary inclusion guideline would likely have a big impact. -- Alex (wikipedia:en:User:Mr.Z-man

Re: [Foundation-l] Long-term archiving of Wikimedia content

2009-05-05 Thread Alex
copies. With the proposals here, we'd be taking something that's already available to everyone electronically and etching it onto metal plates, engraving in stone, etc. and presumably locking it in a bomb shelter somewhere, so the benefits/costs aren't the same. -- Alex (wikipedia:en:User:Mr.Z-man

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia tracks user behaviour via third party companies

2009-06-04 Thread Alex
themselves if they didn't have to download tons of data they don't need. -- Alex (wikipedia:en:User:Mr.Z-man) ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia tracks user behaviour via third party companies

2009-06-04 Thread Alex
URLs or a particular code block in them. It'll stop the well-meaning but misguided admins. Short of restricting site JS to the point of uselessness, you'll never be able to stop determined abusers. -- Alex (wikipedia:en:User:Mr.Z-man) ___ foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia tracks user behaviour via third party companies

2009-06-04 Thread Alex
the most obvious cases like Google analytics. Otherwise, take a look at Simetricals earlier post. John -- Alex (wikipedia:en:User:Mr.Z-man) ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia tracks user behaviour via third party companies

2009-06-05 Thread Alex
John at Darkstar wrote: Alex skrev: John at Darkstar wrote: Hmm? There's no reason to do anything like that. The AbuseFilter would just prevent sitewide JS pages from being saved with the particular URLs or a particular code block in them. It'll stop the well-meaning but misguided admins

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia tracks user behaviour via third party companies #2

2009-06-05 Thread Alex
(edits and other logged actions), not individual pageviews. -- Alex (wikipedia:en:User:Mr.Z-man) ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Proposal for Wikimedia Weather

2009-07-08 Thread Alex
report from 2 miles away versus 5 miles away? After a point, it just becomes redundant. And of course we'd still have to rely on the weather services for things like radar and satellite images. -- Alex (wikipedia:en:User:Mr.Z-man) ___ foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] How much of Wikipedia is vandalized? 0.4% of Articles

2009-08-20 Thread Alex
if you want it, its in a MySQL table on the toolserver right now. -- Alex (wikipedia:en:User:Mr.Z-man) ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Frequency of Seeing Bad Versions - now with traffic data

2009-08-27 Thread Alex
. They typically leave more detailed summaries: Reverted N edits by X identified as vandalism to last revision by Y Reverted edits by X (talk) to last version by Y -- Alex (wikipedia:en:User:Mr.Z-man) ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] I'm here to request a new Wikimedia project

2010-02-27 Thread Alex
I wonder which would be harder, trying to start the first new project in years, or trying to get the English Wikipedia to make a significant policy change? -- Alex (wikipedia:en:User:Mr.Z-man) On 2/27/2010 12:40 PM, David Goodman wrote: WP contains many of the essential elements

Re: [Foundation-l] Sue Gardner, Erik Möller , Wi lliam Pietri: Where is FlaggedRevisions?

2010-02-28 Thread Alex
yet. IMO, setting a deadline, missing it, and explaining why it was missed is better than not setting a deadline until you know you can meet it (which kind of defeats the purpose of setting it). -- Alex (wikipedia:en:User:Mr.Z-man) ___ foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] �lliam Pietri: Where is Flagge dRevisions?

2010-03-01 Thread Alex
that enwiki would get it eventually, why did the foundation wait until 6 months /after/ enwiki requested it to hire people to work on this? -- Alex (wikipedia:en:User:Mr.Z-man) On 3/1/2010 7:58 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: Hoi, One of the things developers are not necessarily good at is communication

Re: [Foundation-l] New project proposal: wiki-based troubleshooting

2010-05-09 Thread Alex
have a troubleshooter for a printer not working: 1. Is the printer plugged in and on? Yes 2. Is there paper loaded? Yes 3. Sorry, that's all this troubleshooter can help you with for now. -- Alex (wikipedia:en:User:Mr.Z-man) ___ foundation-l mailing

Re: [Foundation-l] Where things stand now

2010-05-09 Thread Alex
if it doesn't completely backfire on us and the non-conservative media doesn't make it look like we're burning books or that they misconstrue it and assume we've adopted some sort of outright no-nudity policy. [1] http://bit.ly/d8y5vy -- Alex (wikipedia:en:User:Mr.Z-man

Re: [Foundation-l] Renaming Flagged Protections

2010-05-23 Thread Alex
. Except unless we consider the initial edit to be the first check, its not correct. Only one person independent from the editor is reviewing each edit. -- Alex (wikipedia:en:User:Mr.Z-man) ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Re: [Foundation-l] Renaming Flagged Protections

2010-05-23 Thread Alex
, this raises the question, if we're assuming that most editors are checking their work and are trying to improve the encyclopedia, why do we need to double check their work? We wouldn't call the system Second guess, but that's kind of what this explanation sounds like. -- Alex (wikipedia:en:User:Mr.Z-man

Re: [Foundation-l] Increasing the number of new accounts who actually edit

2010-09-22 Thread Alex
outside of mainspace. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mr.Z-man/newusers -- Alex (wikipedia:en:User:Mr.Z-man) ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] External links to PHP scripts

2010-10-11 Thread Alex
dangerous than plain HTML, at least not significantly so to the extent that we should avoid linking to a page on the sole basis that it uses PHP. Its files that are executed client-side, outside of the browser like exe and zip files that we need to be concerned about. -- Alex (wikipedia:en:User:Mr.Z

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: change of registered TMs in Persian wikipedia

2010-06-09 Thread Shiju Alex
The best option according to us (Malayalam Wikipedians - http://ml.wikipedia.org) is to use the second option for the article titles . That is, transliterate the keyword to your language. There is no copyright issue attached with that, I suppose. We do that throughout our daily life. For example,

[Foundation-l] Creating articles in small wikipedias based on user requirement

2010-06-11 Thread Shiju Alex
Recently I had a discussion with one of my fellow Malayalam wikipedian ( http://ml.wikipedia.org) about the creation of new articles in small wikipedias like ours. He is one the few users who is keen on creating new articles *based on the requirement of our readers*. (Of course we have many people

Re: [Foundation-l] Creating articles in small wikipedias based on user requirement

2010-06-11 Thread Shiju Alex
. This would be a SUPER useful tool for all Wikis. -m. On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 3:54 AM, Shiju Alex shijualexonl...@gmail.com wrote: Recently I had a discussion with one of my fellow Malayalam wikipedian ( http://ml.wikipedia.org) about the creation of new articles in small wikipedias like ours. He

Re: [Foundation-l] Gmail - List messages flagged as spam

2010-06-17 Thread Shiju Alex
Yes. This is true. Many messages are marked as spam during the past few days. I got this message also from the SPAM folder. On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 10:51 PM, Daniel ~ Leinad danny.lei...@gmail.comwrote: 2010/6/17 Ryan Lomonaco wiki.ral...@gmail.com: A housekeeping note: Gmail has been

[Foundation-l] Is Google translation is good for Wikipedias?

2010-07-25 Thread Shiju Alex
follow. Regards Shiju Alex http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Shijualex ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Push translation

2010-07-26 Thread Shiju Alex
really? It's a) not particularly well-written, mostly and b) referenced overwhelmingly to English-language sources, most of which are, you guessed it.. Western in nature. Very much true. Now English Wikipedians want some one to translate and use the exact copy of en:wp in all other

Re: [Foundation-l] Push translation

2010-07-27 Thread Shiju Alex
between the wiki community and the Google translators (speakers of the same language) :( Shiju On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 8:39 AM, Mark Williamson node...@gmail.com wrote: Shiju Alex, Stevertigo is just one en.wikipedian. As far as using exact copies goes, I don't know about the policy

Re: [Foundation-l] Push translation

2010-07-27 Thread Shiju Alex
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Mark Williamson node...@gmail.com wrote: 4) Include a list of most needed articles for people to create, rather than random articles that will be of little use to local readers. Some articles, such as those on local topics, have the added benefit of

Re: [Foundation-l] Is Google translation is good for Wikipedias?

2010-07-28 Thread Shiju Alex
://www.ragibhasan.com On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 2:12 AM, Shiju Alex shijualexonl...@gmail.com wrote: Hello All, Recently there are lot of discussions (in this list also) regarding the translation project by Google for some of the big language wikipedias. The foundation also seems like

[Foundation-l] Fwd: [Wikimediaindia-l] PDF rendering of Indian language wiki pages

2011-02-14 Thread Shiju Alex
Dear All, The following mail is about a PDF rendering solution for non-Latin scripts which is under development. One of the main reason for developing this tool is that the current *Download to PDF* option (available in the sidebar of wiki) is useless for Indic language scripts (current Download

[Foundation-l] Fwd: Copyright problems of images from India

2011-05-10 Thread Shiju Alex
for GLAM type events. But I also do not know the solution for this issue. Requesting constructive discussion. Shiju Alex -- Forwarded message -- From: Sreejith K. sreejithk2...@gmail.com Date: Thu, May 5, 2011 at 12:03 PM Subject: Copyright problems of images from India To: Shiju

[Foundation-l] Chris Clayton

2010-04-17 Thread Alex Mr.Z-man
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