[Foundation-l] Britannica obsolete?

2010-03-15 Thread Renata St
Interesting photo commentary: http://thereifixedit.com/2010/03/11/epic-kludge-photo-anyone-else-die-a-little/ ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Re: [Foundation-l] Britannica

2009-06-10 Thread geni
2009/6/10 Florence Devouard : > I can not help share this with you. > > I was looking for the name "devouard" in a little tool I just discovered > today (TouchGraph). > > And I was surprised to discover that the word "devouard" was highly > linked to the Hoggar plateau (Ahaggar) in Algeria. I conse

Re: [Foundation-l] Britannica

2009-06-10 Thread Sage Ross
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 11:10 AM, Nikola Smolenski wrote: > Дана Wednesday 10 June 2009 16:36:38 Florence Devouard написа: >> But frankly, I am super pleased to find out that one of the pict I >> uploaded 4 years ago are now featured in Britannica :-) > > And they made a honest effort to be GFDL-co

Re: [Foundation-l] Britannica

2009-06-10 Thread Nikola Smolenski
Дана Wednesday 10 June 2009 16:36:38 Florence Devouard написа: > But frankly, I am super pleased to find out that one of the pict I > uploaded 4 years ago are now featured in Britannica :-) And they made a honest effort to be GFDL-compliant. I wonder how many more such images are there.

[Foundation-l] Britannica

2009-06-10 Thread Florence Devouard
I can not help share this with you. I was looking for the name "devouard" in a little tool I just discovered today (TouchGraph). And I was surprised to discover that the word "devouard" was highly linked to the Hoggar plateau (Ahaggar) in Algeria. I consequently clicked on the central point ap

Re: [Foundation-l] Britannica became free

2008-12-27 Thread Samuel Klein
That's great. It might be valuable to share notes on collaborations between old-school encyclopedic media groups and Wikipedians in various countries. I see a few classes of collabs possible * between traditional editing teams and Wikipedians. These teams, including those being laid off by broc

Re: [Foundation-l] Britannica became free

2008-12-27 Thread Mathias Schindler
On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 12:23 AM, Samuel Klein wrote: > Do we know people at Arvato? SJ Yes (more precisely: at Wissen Media and at InmediaOne] ) Mathias ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikime

Re: [Foundation-l] Britannica became free

2008-12-26 Thread Samuel Klein
Do we know people at Arvato? SJ On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 6:06 PM, Mathias Schindler wrote: > On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 11:21 PM, David Gerard wrote: > >> Eek! What's happening to the content? >> > > There are/were several ways to access the content of the actual core > Brockhaus encyclopedia: > >

Re: [Foundation-l] Britannica became free

2008-12-23 Thread Mathias Schindler
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 11:21 PM, David Gerard wrote: > Eek! What's happening to the content? > There are/were several ways to access the content of the actual core Brockhaus encyclopedia: 1. Buy the book. 30 volumes, 2700€ - 3100€, depending on your payment plan: http://www.brockhaus.de/enzykl

Re: [Foundation-l] Britannica became free

2008-12-23 Thread David Gerard
2008/12/23 Mathias Schindler : > On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 11:06 PM, David Gerard wrote: >> Britannica is notoriously antagonistic toward Wikipedia in its >> advertising, but Brockhaus for instance isn't anywhere near as >> obnoxious (they're not *fans* of Wikipedia, but they have more class >> tha

Re: [Foundation-l] Britannica became free

2008-12-23 Thread Mathias Schindler
On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 11:06 PM, David Gerard wrote: > Britannica is notoriously antagonistic toward Wikipedia in its > advertising, but Brockhaus for instance isn't anywhere near as > obnoxious (they're not *fans* of Wikipedia, but they have more class > than to trash a perceived competitor the

Re: [Foundation-l] Britannica became free

2008-12-23 Thread Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
David Gerard wrote: > 2008/12/22 Milos Rancic : > >> On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 4:14 AM, Tim Starling >> wrote: >> > > >>> The following Firefox bookmarklet may be useful: >>> javascript:(function(){Darwin.Upsell.deactivate();})() >>> > > >> Thanks! It works well :) >> > >

Re: [Foundation-l] Britannica became free

2008-12-22 Thread Tim Starling
David Goodman wrote: > Upsell is the name of the leading market research company in > publishing--probably they are the ones who designed it. I'm suprised, > for they are generally known as competent. No, that would be upsell as in: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Up-selling I'd give you a Britanni

Re: [Foundation-l] Britannica became free

2008-12-22 Thread Delirium
David Gerard wrote: > (A tangential note: I consider NPOV to be our most important > innovation - much more radical than merely letting anyone edit your > encyclopedia. The concept of "neutrality" has existed in various > guises, but not like Wikipedia does it, with the consequences it has > as a s

Re: [Foundation-l] Britannica became free

2008-12-22 Thread Aude
I noticed that Britannica is using some creative commons images from Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons. Example: http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic-art/589288/113374/Courthouse-in-Denton-Texas http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Old_Courthouse_Denton_TX.jpg -Aude ___

Re: [Foundation-l] Britannica became free

2008-12-22 Thread Hay (Husky)
On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 4:14 AM, Tim Starling wrote: > I checked a larger biography, and it looked complete to me. Note that it > uses ajax to load article sections as you scroll to them, so you have to > scroll up and down the page to trigger all the ajax loads before you can > copy the text out.

Re: [Foundation-l] Britannica became free

2008-12-22 Thread David Gerard
2008/12/22 Gregory Maxwell : > On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 5:38 PM, David Gerard wrote: >> (A tangential note: I consider NPOV to be our most important >> innovation - much more radical than merely letting anyone edit your >> encyclopedia. The concept of "neutrality" has existed in various >> guises,

Re: [Foundation-l] Britannica became free

2008-12-22 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 5:38 PM, David Gerard wrote: [snip] > (A tangential note: I consider NPOV to be our most important > innovation - much more radical than merely letting anyone edit your > encyclopedia. The concept of "neutrality" has existed in various > guises, but not like Wikipedia does

Re: [Foundation-l] Britannica became free

2008-12-22 Thread David Gerard
2008/12/22 Tomasz Ganicz : > I don't like guys from Wikmedia projects speaking in some sort of > "supremacy" language. Our goal is to create: "a world in which every > single human being can freely share in the sum of all knowledge." so > if the Britannica or PWN or any other commercial provider o

Re: [Foundation-l] Britannica became free

2008-12-22 Thread Tomasz Ganicz
2008/12/22 David Gerard : > 2008/12/22 Milos Rancic : > >> Then, I wanted to see what is the value of Britannica; without >> success. It is a "private company" (in US sense of that meaning; >> "public companies" in European sense are just companies owned by some >> local or state government; and in

Re: [Foundation-l] Britannica became free

2008-12-22 Thread David Gerard
2008/12/22 Milos Rancic : > Then, I wanted to see what is the value of Britannica; without > success. It is a "private company" (in US sense of that meaning; > "public companies" in European sense are just companies owned by some > local or state government; and in some specific circumstances). It

Re: [Foundation-l] Britannica became free

2008-12-22 Thread David Goodman
Sorry, wrong company name--I was thinking of another one --a truly competent one, Outsell, that has undoubtedly nothing to do with this nonsensical method of protection. On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 4:20 PM, David Goodman wrote: > Upsell is the name of the leading market research company in > publishi

Re: [Foundation-l] Britannica became free

2008-12-22 Thread Milos Rancic
On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 9:17 PM, David Gerard wrote: > 2008/12/22 Milos Rancic : >> On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 4:14 AM, Tim Starling >> wrote: > >>> The following Firefox bookmarklet may be useful: >>> javascript:(function(){Darwin.Upsell.deactivate();})() > >> Thanks! It works well :) > > > They c

Re: [Foundation-l] Britannica became free

2008-12-22 Thread David Goodman
Upsell is the name of the leading market research company in publishing--probably they are the ones who designed it. I'm suprised, for they are generally known as competent. On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 3:17 PM, David Gerard wrote: > 2008/12/22 Milos Rancic : >> On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 4:14 AM, Tim St

Re: [Foundation-l] Britannica became free

2008-12-22 Thread geni
2008/12/22 David Gerard : > They called the function "upsell"? *facepalm* Wikipedia doesn't need > to do anything to compete with Britannica, just leave them to collapse > under the weight of their own ineptitude. > > We should probably run a large public "Save Britannica!" campaign - > how to save

Re: [Foundation-l] Britannica became free

2008-12-22 Thread Milos Rancic
On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 1:27 PM, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: > 2008/12/22 Milos Rancic : >> If I understood well, the content of the online edition of Britannica >> became free (as in "free beer", of course). They are putting some >> irritating screen with recommendation to buy access to their edition

Re: [Foundation-l] Britannica became free

2008-12-22 Thread David Gerard
2008/12/22 Milos Rancic : > On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 4:14 AM, Tim Starling wrote: >> The following Firefox bookmarklet may be useful: >> javascript:(function(){Darwin.Upsell.deactivate();})() > Thanks! It works well :) They called the function "upsell"? *facepalm* Wikipedia doesn't need to do a

Re: [Foundation-l] Britannica became free

2008-12-22 Thread Milos Rancic
On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 4:14 AM, Tim Starling wrote: > The following Firefox bookmarklet may be useful: > > javascript:(function(){Darwin.Upsell.deactivate();})() > > Put it in a bookmark in your toolbar and click it to get rid of the > annoying box. It doesn't come back until you go to another pa

Re: [Foundation-l] Britannica became free

2008-12-22 Thread Nikola Smolenski
teun spaans wrote: > "but possibly illegal" you can omit the word "possibly". I dont see a copy > left license at their site. You can copy it for your personal use :°♫ > On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 3:29 PM, Amir E. Aharoni > wrote: >> 2008/12/22 Amir E. Aharoni : >>> 2008/12/22 Milos Rancic : >>> An

Re: [Foundation-l] Britannica became free

2008-12-22 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2008/12/22 teun spaans : > "but possibly illegal" you can omit the word "possibly". I dont see a copy > left license at their site. It may be possible to copy from EB under fair use terms. On Wikipedia i don't even need to think about that (except some images...). -- Amir Elisha Aharoni heb: ht

Re: [Foundation-l] Britannica became free

2008-12-22 Thread teun spaans
"but possibly illegal" you can omit the word "possibly". I dont see a copy left license at their site. On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 3:29 PM, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: > 2008/12/22 Amir E. Aharoni : > > 2008/12/22 Milos Rancic : > > And Britannica has this totally weird feature - the article loads > > its

Re: [Foundation-l] Britannica became free

2008-12-22 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2008/12/22 Amir E. Aharoni : > 2008/12/22 Milos Rancic : > And Britannica has this totally weird feature - the article loads > itself as soon as the scrollbar progresses through it. So even if it > is free as in beer, it is obnoxiously inconvenient to copy text from > it, 'cuz Ctrl-A doesn't work a

Re: [Foundation-l] Britannica became free

2008-12-22 Thread Amir E. Aharoni
2008/12/22 Milos Rancic : > If I understood well, the content of the online edition of Britannica > became free (as in "free beer", of course). They are putting some > irritating screen with recommendation to buy access to their edition > every 10 seconds (or so), but, in fact, it is possible to co

Re: [Foundation-l] Britannica became free

2008-12-21 Thread Tim Starling
Milos Rancic wrote: > If I understood well, the content of the online edition of Britannica > became free (as in "free beer", of course). They are putting some > irritating screen with recommendation to buy access to their edition > every 10 seconds (or so), but, in fact, it is possible to copy-pas

[Foundation-l] Britannica became free

2008-12-21 Thread Milos Rancic
If I understood well, the content of the online edition of Britannica became free (as in "free beer", of course). They are putting some irritating screen with recommendation to buy access to their edition every 10 seconds (or so), but, in fact, it is possible to copy-paste the content somewhere els