On 07/04/2010 03:40 AM, Eugene Eric Kim wrote:
1. Decision-making processes for development. Many of the large open
source projects have core teams consisting of both paid and volunteer
developers, and they typically have a decision-making process that is
independent of any single
On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 7:29 PM, Martin Maurer martinmaure...@gmail.com wrote:
May I ask for an official Yes or No answer from the Foundation, please?
I don't think it's reasonable to demand a yes or no answer to a vague
hypothetical question. The answer might depend on the community's
stated
On 07/04/2010 11:06 AM, David Gerard wrote:
So I hereby admit to being wrong both
in what I asked and how I asked it, and beg your forgiveness. And I
bet you don't see people do that much on the Internet ;-)
No, which makes it especially worth appreciating, on three levels.
First, is
On 4 July 2010 21:20, William Pietri will...@scissor.com wrote:
No, which makes it especially worth appreciating, on three levels.
First, is says something good about the person. Second, it can really
move a discussion along. And third, it serves as an example for future
discussions, like
On 07/03/2010 04:47 PM, David Gerard wrote:
Well. not really. He's asking the same question Greg Maxwell and I
asked last month about the language list defaulting to open rather
than closed: If a wiki voted for it, would that override the usability
team's dictates? That was a straight yes or
On 4 July 2010 02:03, William Pietri will...@scissor.com wrote:
On 07/03/2010 04:47 PM, David Gerard wrote:
Well. not really. He's asking the same question Greg Maxwell and I
asked last month about the language list defaulting to open rather
than closed: If a wiki voted for it, would that
On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 6:11 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
On 4 July 2010 02:03, William Pietri will...@scissor.com wrote:
On 07/03/2010 04:47 PM, David Gerard wrote:
Well. not really. He's asking the same question Greg Maxwell and I
asked last month about the language list
On 07/03/2010 06:11 PM, David Gerard wrote:
That's phrased in terms of dominance. It's in effect asking who's the
bigger monkey. I think that's a conversation worth avoiding where possible.
The dominance element was brought in, as you well know, by Trevor
Parscal's preremptory
2010/6/28 Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org:
In this case, I would recommend a process of negotiation. Detail your
concerns in Bugzilla, and give the developers time to respond to them.
This is good advice. I want to add that there's something very unusual
about the work that's been done
Hoi,
Please read what Tim wrote; he suggested for you to take time and not decide
in a hurry to move away from vector. Effort will be concentrated on further
development of vector and support for other skins will consequently be an
afterthought. Expensive at that.
When you choose to stick to
Gerard,
I'm not sure such a condescending tone helps anybody. Also, I'm not
sure you've understood the intent of Martin's post. I'm under the
impression he'd only like to put off implementation of Vector in his
community until some problems get worked out, not permanently.
Besides, I think the
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 3:55 AM, Gerard Meijssen
gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote:
Effort will be concentrated on further
development of vector and support for other skins will consequently be an
afterthought. Expensive at that.
{{fact}}?
I know quite a bit of effort goes into maintaining
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 5:55 PM, Gerard Meijssen
gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote:
Hoi,
Please read what Tim wrote; he suggested for you to take time and not decide
in a hurry to move away from vector.
Yes, I read what Tim wrote, but I beg to differ on that suggestion and
would like to explain
--- On Mon, 6/28/10, Martin Maurer martinmaure...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Martin Maurer martinmaure...@gmail.com
Subject: [Foundation-l] Self-determination of language versions in questions
of skin?
To: foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Date: Monday, June 28, 2010, 6:11 PM
Hello,
I
Hello,
I posted this yesterday at wikitech-l and was told to ask this
question here at foundation-l.
I'm a member of the German language Wikipedia community and have a
question that no-one could give me a definite answer to so far. I hope
someone here can answer it, or point me to where I should
On 29/06/10 09:11, Martin Maurer wrote:
The question is, what level of self-determination do the 260 language
versions of Wikipedia have as to the design of their user interfaces
(skins)? Can individual wikis choose independently modifications of
their skins, and which of the available skins
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