Re: [Foundation-l] Wikinews has not failed

2009-11-05 Thread Robert Rohde
On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 10:55 AM, wjhon...@aol.com wrote: snip Better to re-focus attention on those projects which are successful, than have ten non-successful projects dragging off any resources at all. What resources? With only ~1.5M hits per month, EN Wikinews' share of the tech /

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikinews has not failed

2009-11-05 Thread David Gerard
2009/11/5 wjhon...@aol.com: By failing I mean that it never achieved any sort of siginificant presence.  When Wikinews was started it was, imho, to shunt news off the main project into its own space. In your opinion? i.e., not necessarily in anyone else's. Better to re-focus attention on

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikinews has not failed

2009-11-05 Thread WJhonson
By failing I mean that it never achieved any sort of siginificant presence. When Wikinews was started it was, imho, to shunt news off the main project into its own space. News by it's nature is far more verbose then encyclopedic material. News inundates you constantly, while encyclopedic

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikinews has not failed

2009-11-05 Thread WJhonson
In a message dated 11/5/2009 11:29:32 AM Pacific Standard Time, raro...@gmail.com writes: In a $6 million budget, I'd honestly be disappointed if the Foundation wasn't spending at least $100k on development projects that might some day take off, But that's exactly my point. Wikinews has

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikinews has not failed

2009-11-05 Thread Jon Davis
According to the Wikinews stats page ( http://wmf4.me/3229 ), the English Wikinews received 7.9 million page views in October 2009. Compare that to 52 million page views for English Wiktionary ( http://wmf4.me/f8E57 ) or 12.8 million for English Wikisource ( http://wmf4.me/7a12c ) in the same

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikinews has not failed

2009-11-05 Thread Andrew Gray
2009/11/5 Peter Coombe thewub.w...@googlemail.com: Wikinews has it's problems, and is often overshadowed by it's bigger brother Wikipedia. But it certainly hasn't failed. There's a respectable amount of content being produced, including original reporting that just would not fit on Wikipedia.

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikinews has not failed

2009-11-05 Thread William Pietri
Robert Rohde wrote: What resources? With only ~1.5M hits per month, EN Wikinews' share of the tech / internet services budget probably only comes to a couple thousand dollars per year, in other words basically a rounding error in the budget. I'd guess it's less than that. I just calculated

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikinews has not failed

2009-11-05 Thread David Gerard
2009/11/5 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com: 2009/11/5 Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk: We did astonishingly, staggeringly, unbelievably, improbably well with Wikipedia. Failing to replicate that is to be expected; it's unlikely we could deliberately manage such a success without a

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikinews has not failed

2009-11-04 Thread Andrew Turvey
- wjhon...@aol.com wrote: ... Few to no Wikipedia articles point at Wikinews even when there is a Wikinews article. How about: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Current_events http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisbon_Treaty#Signing

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikinews has not failed

2009-11-04 Thread Bod Notbod
Is it possible that sometimes Wikipedia steals Wikinews' thunder? You get something like that kid (not) in a balloon and it struggles/fails to get on Wikipedia but I assume did OK on Wikinews. Sometimes a current event is big enough that Wikipedia can cover it without fear of deletion (I think

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikinews has not failed

2009-11-04 Thread Brian J Mingus
On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Bod Notbod bodnot...@gmail.com wrote: Is it possible that sometimes Wikipedia steals Wikinews' thunder? You get something like that kid (not) in a balloon and it struggles/fails to get on Wikipedia but I assume did OK on Wikinews. Sometimes a current event is

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikinews has not failed

2009-11-04 Thread wjhonson
] Wikinews has not failed On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Bod Notbod bodnot...@gmail.com wrote: Is it possible that sometimes Wikipedia steals Wikinews' thunder? You get something like that kid (not) in a balloon and it struggles/fails to get on Wikipedia but I assume did OK on Wikinews

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikinews has not failed

2009-11-04 Thread Robert Rohde
On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 4:02 PM, wjhon...@aol.com wrote:  How do you determine the number of views a particular Wikipedia page has received? http://stats.grok.se/en/200910/Colorado%20Balloon%20Incident -Robert Rohde ___ foundation-l mailing list