Re: [Foundation-l] About that sue and be damned to the National Portrait Gallery ...

2009-07-10 Thread Andrew Lih
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 8:52 AM, Robert Rohderaro...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 5:05 PM, Thomas Daltonthomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: snip I don't know as much about UK copyright law as perhaps I should, given my choice of hobby and my location, but I would be surprised if there

Re: [Foundation-l] About that sue and be damned to the National Portrait Gallery ...

2009-07-10 Thread Andrew Lih
On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 9:54 AM, Thomas Daltonthomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/7/11 Gregory Maxwell gmaxw...@gmail.com: This is where in the US, Bridgeman v Corel established that a slavish reproduction of a PD work does not constitute a new work that can be  protected by copyright. We

Re: [Foundation-l] WSJ on Wikipedia

2009-11-23 Thread Andrew Lih
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Sue Gardner susanpgard...@gmail.com wrote: People who want to help do some of this work should engage on the strategy wiki: there's a task force focused on community health that will be looking at these issues.  I can't post the URL (I'm on my Blackberry and

Re: [Foundation-l] WSJ on Wikipedia

2009-12-05 Thread Andrew Lih
FYI, related this audio interview is up now: Wikipedia Weekly podcast interviews researchers Felipe Ortega and Ed Chi about recent WSJ article re: volunteer departures http://bit.ly/5aG6si -Andrew ___ foundation-l mailing list

Re: [Foundation-l] A Wikimedia project has forked

2011-09-13 Thread Andrew Lih
Hi all, reading this thread with much interest. Lots of ideas on this, in bullet points: - As a journalism professor, I've followed (and debated) Wikinews since its very start. I say this not to claim authority, but simply to say it has been something I've pondered continually for six years now.

Re: [Foundation-l] On Wikinews

2011-09-14 Thread Andrew Lih
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 9:44 AM, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote: In other words, to have successful Wikinews, you have to have editor pool which have Wikipedia itself and to be more structured. The only other option is to hire someone to do that job. Wikinewsie Brian McNeil's signature

Re: [Foundation-l] On Wikinews

2011-09-14 Thread Andrew Lih
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Sarah slimvir...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 12:02, Andrew Lih andrew@gmail.com wrote: of Wikipedia principles. Wikis depend on eventualism: given an infinite timeline, pages eventually get better. News cannot survive on that. The decay

Re: [Foundation-l] On Wikinews

2011-09-14 Thread Andrew Lih
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Sarah slimvir...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 12:34, Andrew Lih andrew@gmail.com wrote: And, in Wikipedia's crowdsourced way, potentially a re-oriented, mobilized Wikinews could produce in one week what National Geographic normally produces

Re: [Foundation-l] On Wikinews

2011-09-15 Thread Andrew Lih
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 6:52 AM, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote: And, as Andrew Lih mentioned, Wikipedia *had* payed editor at the beginning. Did I say this? I don't remember saying so. In my book I described Nupedia, and how that system of having a paid head didn't work out (namely

Re: [Foundation-l] On Wikinews

2011-09-15 Thread Andrew Lih
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 7:46 AM, Andrew Lih andrew@gmail.com wrote: In my book I described Nupedia, and how that system of having a paid head didn't work out (namely, Larry Sanger as editor in chief). In fact, if you look at the process-heavy system that Wikinews has created over

[Foundation-l] The 'Undue Weight' of Truth on Wikipedia (from the Chronicle) + some citation discussions

2012-02-21 Thread Andrew Lih
Mike Godwin wrote: I read the article in the Chronicle pretty carefully. The author's experience struck me as an example of a pattern that may account for the flattening of the growth curve in new editors as well as for some other phenomena. As you may remember, Andrew Lih conducted

Re: [Foundation-l] The 'Undue Weight' of Truth on Wikipedia (from the Chronicle) + some citation discussions

2012-02-22 Thread Andrew Lih
An update: Steven Walling will be with me on NPR's Talk of the Nation, today at 3pm US Eastern time talking about this issue. In preparation for the show, I looked up Messer-Kruse's book on Amazon, and I am pasting in the first two sentences of the blurb (bold emphasis mine). In this

Re: [Foundation-l] The 'Undue Weight' of Truth on Wikipedia (from the Chronicle) + some citation discussions

2012-02-22 Thread Andrew Lih
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 10:20 AM, Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.comwrote: On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 10:13 AM, Andrew Lih andrew@gmail.com wrote: But I do share Mike Godwin's concerns on what this means for attracting editors and for Wikipedia's public image. This is where I

Re: [Foundation-l] WikiNews...no NOT Wikinews

2012-02-27 Thread Andrew Lih
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: It looks like it's just a promotion for Wikinews. It doesn't refer to or link anywhere else. It's not totally accurate, from what I understand of Wikinews, but I'm not sure how it's a threat? In the video, the motto and the

Re: [Foundation-l] WikiNews...no NOT Wikinews

2012-02-27 Thread Andrew Lih
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.comwrote: On 27 February 2012 20:18, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: It looks like it's just a promotion for Wikinews. It doesn't refer to or link anywhere else. It's not totally accurate, from what I understand of

Re: [Foundation-l] WikiNews...no NOT Wikinews

2012-02-27 Thread Andrew Lih
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Kevin Gorman kgor...@gmail.com wrote: His most recent comment on the video: Just found out about WikiNews.org 5 minutes ago. Whoops. so.. looks like he did this as a mockup and literally didn't know that it was already a thing. Yes, I contacted him and he

Re: [Foundation-l] Improving Wikipedia Information graphics

2012-04-05 Thread Andrew Lih
That's great stuff, thanks for letting the list know about it. Wikipedia may have squashed Encarta and put Britannica on its heels, but those encyclopedias had the edge with multimedia and professional infographics. This is a wonderful step forward and I hope we'll see more. -Andrew On Thu, Apr