Re: [Foundation-l] Biographies of Living People: a quick interim update

2009-03-09 Thread Ilario Valdelli
On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 11:12 PM, Sue Gardner sgard...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi folks, This is just a quick interim update on the BLP issue I raised here last week. First, there seems to be a general view that BLPs are a problem that is worth addressing. I won't recap all the reasons for

[Foundation-l] Wikimedia Italia Award 2009 (most of all the award concerning Commons)

2009-05-07 Thread Ilario Valdelli
I would announce you that until the 15th of May Wikimedia Italia is collecting some nominations to select the winners of the Wikimedia Italia Award 2009 which will take place the 23th May in Vicenza (near Venice) in collaboration with local administrations and associations during the festival of

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia Commons: Service project or not?

2009-06-19 Thread Ilario Valdelli
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanterpute...@mccme.ru wrote: some of them in languages I have no idea of like Japanese. This is of course a meta issue and somebody (me for instance) could take an initiative and create a project alerting other wikipedias of new image arrivals (I

Re: [Foundation-l] A chapters-related question

2009-07-07 Thread Ilario Valdelli
On Mon, Jul 6, 2009 at 10:52 PM, Thomas de Souza Buckupthomasdesouzabuc...@gmail.com wrote: *We are **a movement of autonomous volunteers: *   - *Instead of a legal entity, an open movement*   - *Instead of bylaws, a statement of principles*   - *Instead of legal representatives, task

Re: [Foundation-l] A chapters-related question

2009-07-09 Thread Ilario Valdelli
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Anders Wennerstenanders.wenners...@bonetmail.com wrote: I also like this approach *On most informal level - a Working  Group, carefully organized under a Working Group Organizer who has a time-limited agreement/recognition letter with the Foundation *On

Re: [Foundation-l] Chapters as intermediaries between WMF and communities (was Re: Omidyar Network Commits $2 Million Grant to Wikimedia Foundation)

2009-08-28 Thread Ilario Valdelli
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 5:01 PM, Florence Devouardanthe...@yahoo.com wrote: Using the chapters as intermediaries between the Wikimedia Foundation and the communities is actually a solution that has been used in the past. It certainly feature a certain efficiency (proximity with the community

Re: [Foundation-l] moderate this list

2009-08-28 Thread Ilario Valdelli
Chad wrote: This list has really high traffic (depending on season, it fluctuates a bit) and it can be a bit overwhelming at times. Moderation isn't the answer though. The signal to noise ratio here remains fairly decent, so we wouldn't really gain anything through moderation (except some very

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikipedia is not bureaucracy, said bureaucrat and deleted article

2009-11-26 Thread Ilario Valdelli
On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote: Read http://news.slashdot.org/story/09/11/25/160236/Contributors-Leaving-Wikipedia-In-Record-Numbers Article is based on Felipe Ortega's research. There are two claims from this article: 1. English-language version of

Re: [Foundation-l] Wikimedia and Environment

2009-12-14 Thread Ilario Valdelli
On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Teofilo teofilow...@gmail.com wrote: How about moving the servers (5) from Florida to a cold country (Alaska, Canada, Finland, Russia) so that they can be used to heat offices or homes ? It might not be unrealistic as one may read such things as the solution

Re: [Foundation-l] Changes in Language committee practice: ancient and constructed languages

2010-03-08 Thread Ilario Valdelli
On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 6:58 PM, Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com wrote: This issue was discussed a number of times here. As some changes has happened, you should know that. Requests for Wikisource in Ancient Greek and Coptic have became eligible, as well as request for Ancient Greek Wikiquote.

Re: [Foundation-l] Reflections on the recent debates

2010-05-08 Thread Ilario Valdelli
On 08.05.2010 17:48, Mike Godwin wrote: I think it's also worth remembering that when an individual like Jimmy is given extraordinary cross-project powers to use in extraordinary circumstances, this more or less guarantees that any use of those powers will be controversial. (If they were

Re: [Foundation-l] Reflections on the recent debates

2010-05-08 Thread Ilario Valdelli
On 08.05.2010 23:02, Victor Vasiliev wrote: Think future, not past. Think project, not Jimmy. We do think future: if Jimmy had already carelessly intervened twice and caused controversies both time, how can we except the story will not repeat. Probably this is happened twice

Re: [Foundation-l] A Board member's perspective

2010-05-09 Thread Ilario Valdelli
On 09.05.2010 02:04, Noein wrote: On 08/05/2010 20:52, Stuart West wrote: (1) There were some bad actors at work (e.g. hardcore pornography distributors taking advantage of our open culture to get free anonymous hosting). (2) As a community (including the Board), we debated the issue

Re: [Foundation-l] Another board member statement

2010-05-11 Thread Ilario Valdelli
On 11.05.2010 06:43, Kat Walsh wrote: What I do support are tools and procedures that make it simpler for users to choose what they see: I don't think anyone should have to avoid Wikimedia projects because they fear that they (or their children) will inadvertently see something they didn't

Re: [Foundation-l] Legal requirements for sexual content -- help, please!

2010-05-14 Thread Ilario Valdelli
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@yahoo.com wrote: Someone uploading a nude picture of their ex-girlfriend can be far more injurious to the woman concerned than the same person uploading an image of her making tea. Requiring an OTRS release from the model for any nude

Re: [Foundation-l] Legal requirements for sexual content -- help, please!

2010-05-14 Thread Ilario Valdelli
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 4:49 PM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Ilario Valdelli valde...@gmail.com wrote: Except the case that you make a photo of yourself. In this case the OTRS ticket is not important like is not important in the point of view of copyright

Re: [Foundation-l] Legal requirements for sexual content -- help, please!

2010-05-14 Thread Ilario Valdelli
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 6:59 PM, Anthony wikim...@inbox.org wrote: On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 9:56 AM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@yahoo.com wrote: Someone uploading a nude picture of their ex-girlfriend can be far more injurious to the woman concerned than the same person uploading an image of her

Re: [Foundation-l] Legal requirements for sexual content -- help, please!

2010-05-14 Thread Ilario Valdelli
On 14.05.2010 20:38, wiki-l...@phizz.demon.co.uk wrote: Many nudist will tell you that what happens on the beach stays on the beach. There is no expectation that a photo taken by a friend, or stranger for that matter, will end up on a public website. Indeed there have been recent case

Re: [Foundation-l] Reconsidering the policy one language - one Wikipedia

2010-06-26 Thread Ilario Valdelli
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 10:08 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: On 24 June 2010 15:04, Ziko van Dijk zvand...@googlemail.com wrote: - Scope and name: Maybe it would practically make no big difference whether the project is called simple or for kids. Poor readers and adult

[Foundation-l] Umberto Eco's interview

2010-08-04 Thread Ilario Valdelli
Dear all, I have checked in my in box but it seems that this mailing list has not received this news. The Italian project w...@home supported by Italian chapter and the Wikinotizie has organized an interview some months ago with Mr.Umberto Eco who is a philosopher and literary critic known

Re: [Foundation-l] Umberto Eco on small languages/dialects Wikipedias (Aristotle article)

2010-09-19 Thread Ilario Valdelli
On 19.09.2010 13:01, Marcus Buck wrote: An'n 19.09.2010 11:32, hett Mark Williamson schreven: We have heard this type of criticism before, that lower-prestige varieties or languages that are not official or national languages are somehow intrinsically incapable or unsuited to encyclopedic

Re: [Foundation-l] Umberto Eco on small languages/dialects Wikipedias (Aristotle article)

2010-09-20 Thread Ilario Valdelli
On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 2:08 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 19 September 2010 12:42, Ilario Valdelli valde...@gmail.com wrote: It is normal because any standard language has different registers, the dialect has limited registers and in general only for daily and familiar use

Re: [Foundation-l] chapter board seats (was: Greg Kohs and Peter Damian)

2010-10-21 Thread Ilario Valdelli
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:52 PM, phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com wrote: Three board positions (30% of the board) are elected by the community at large. They are the only members of the board who have a direct responsibility to the community, and there is no method for the community to

Re: [Foundation-l] Board Resolution: Openness

2011-04-10 Thread Ilario Valdelli
On 10.04.2011 05:03, Dror Kamir wrote: Are there people who would like to help me collect such cases like those of Astrology, Kosovo, the Middle East etc. and/or cases that were sent to arbitration which didn't help much and the like, and productively analyze them in order to think of better

Re: [Foundation-l] Commons as an art gallery?

2011-05-16 Thread Ilario Valdelli
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 5:40 PM, Andreas Kolbe jayen...@yahoo.com wrote: There is a long thread on the Commons and Gendergap lists about today's featured image on Commons: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/commons-l/2011-May/ http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/gendergap/2011-May/ It's

Re: [Foundation-l] Commons as an art gallery?

2011-05-16 Thread Ilario Valdelli
On 16.05.2011 18:54, Béria Lima wrote: I would like to question something: Why you people are not discussing that in commons? Because here people can give opinions, in Gendergap mailing list too, but the people who can actually change the policy are the commons editors. So, is not better

Re: [Foundation-l] 1.3 billion of humans don't have Wikipedia in their native language

2011-05-24 Thread Ilario Valdelli
On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 4:47 PM, m...@marcusbuck.org wrote: A single dedicated person could be enough to put a project in motion. A dean of a Nigerian college who integrates Wikipedia article creation in the instruction plan (if you create 200 Nigerian pidgin Wikipedia articles this semester

Re: [Foundation-l] Chapters

2011-08-28 Thread Ilario Valdelli
On 28.08.2011 16:46, Risker wrote: On 28 August 2011 04:47, rupert THURNERrupert.thur...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/8/28 Delphine Ménardnotafi...@gmail.com: +1. in switzerland we feel that a good target is to get 1 CHF per user and year as donation. not having a better means of calculating the

Re: [Foundation-l] Chapters

2011-08-28 Thread Ilario Valdelli
On 28.08.2011 21:00, Nathan wrote: On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Ilario Valdellivalde...@gmail.com wrote: This is incorrect because to receive tax exemption a person doesn't need to have a receipt. At least for Switzerland the donor can only indicate to have donate an amount to one

Re: [Foundation-l] Chapters

2011-08-28 Thread Ilario Valdelli
On 28.08.2011 21:00, Nathan wrote: On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Ilario Valdellivalde...@gmail.com wrote: This is incorrect because to receive tax exemption a person doesn't need to have a receipt. At least for Switzerland the donor can only indicate to have donate an amount to one

Re: [Foundation-l] Chapters

2011-08-28 Thread Ilario Valdelli
On 28.08.2011 23:47, Mike Godwin wrote: Theo writes: Second, it might be some form of elitist outlook if you think accountability standards for US Non-profits are more transparent and fiscally responsible than say somewhere in EU like Germany, France or the Switzerland. I assure you, they

Re: [Foundation-l] Chapters

2011-08-31 Thread Ilario Valdelli
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 12:32 AM, Arne Klempert klempert.li...@gmail.com wrote: We did raise the bar for chapters to participate in the fundraiser as payment processors. However, IMO the board's guidance provides enough flexibility to let more chapters than just WMDE participate in 2011. But

Re: [Foundation-l] Chapters

2011-08-31 Thread Ilario Valdelli
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: On 31 August 2011 09:34, Ilario Valdelli valde...@gmail.com wrote: I asked if the proposal of grant agreement was negotiable and the answer has been no! The talk page of the grant agreement on internal-wiki would

Re: [Foundation-l] Chapters

2011-09-01 Thread Ilario Valdelli
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: On 31 August 2011 17:02, Ilario Valdelli valde...@gmail.com wrote: I mean that was not negotiable the choice to have grant agreement/fundraising agreement. Grant agreement have been considered mandatory without any

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia Brasil + WMF

2011-09-02 Thread Ilario Valdelli
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 5:37 PM, Jimmy Wales jwa...@wikia-inc.com wrote: On 8/28/11 1:00 AM, Ray Saintonge wrote: I think that developing such a legal entity should be a high priority for Brazilian Wikipedians to ensure that Wiki activities in Brazil are controlled by Brazilians. At the same

Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia Brasil + WMF

2011-09-02 Thread Ilario Valdelli
On 02.09.2011 22:02, Michael Snow wrote: For those reading whose memories may not be quite long enough - I assume Florence is referring to Michael Davis here, not to me. The conflict of interest policy was adopted in 2006, before I was on the board. I just thought it would help to make the

Re: [Foundation-l] Improving links between chapters and the Foundation

2011-09-03 Thread Ilario Valdelli
On 03.09.2011 18:55, Jon Huggett wrote: On Sep 3, 2011, at 09:25 , WereSpielChequers wrote: Increasing the mutual overlap of boards is a tried and tested way of reducing such tension, it doesn't always work, (in wiki speak it isn't magic pixie dust) and we are in this situation despite having

Re: [Foundation-l] Hypothetical project rebranding Wikimedia

2011-09-08 Thread Ilario Valdelli
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 5:06 PM, Tobias Oelgarte tobias.oelga...@googlemail.com wrote: Usually you will find rebranding as part to improve your already destroyed image. If your image is good, your won't create a new brand and start from the beginning. Is our image so bad that we would need a

Re: [Foundation-l] Informing chapters about closing/opening wikis (+ useful list)

2011-09-10 Thread Ilario Valdelli
Good execpt some errors. Italian is national language in switzerland. Ilario On 10 Sep 2011 00:54, Robin Pepermans robinp.1...@gmail.com wrote: An idea that I raised during a discussion between the language committee and Wikimedia South Africa was to inform chapters when a request for closing

Re: [Foundation-l] Blackout at Italian Wikipedia

2011-10-04 Thread Ilario Valdelli
An official statement will be published in Foundation-l. The question is that the server are in USA, but for the penal law it's sufficient to edit from the Italian country. I am in a special situation because I live in Switzerland and I publish in USA servers, but for the main numbers of Italian

Re: [Foundation-l] Blackout at Italian Wikipedia

2011-10-04 Thread Ilario Valdelli
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 9:12 AM, Donaldo Papero pap3ri...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, Here are the facts: the Italian parliament will discuss within few days – and most likely approve – a law which, among the other things, will

Re: [Foundation-l] Blackout at Italian Wikipedia

2011-10-04 Thread Ilario Valdelli
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Ilario Valdelli valde...@gmail.com wrote: The question is that all Internet people in Italy is having strike because the project of law can be stopped if not approved. If it will be approved

Re: [Foundation-l] Blackout at Italian Wikipedia

2011-10-04 Thread Ilario Valdelli
On 04.10.2011 22:19, Nathan wrote: On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 4:15 PM, teun spaansteun.spa...@gmail.com wrote: Isn't this premature? As I understand, the law is still being discussed, not yet in affect. It's a protest, they are hoping to influence whether the law is passed or not. ~Nathan

Re: [Foundation-l] Blackout at Italian Wikipedia

2011-10-05 Thread Ilario Valdelli
On 05.10.2011 20:43, Austin Hair wrote: On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Theo10011de10...@gmail.com wrote: There seems to be a situation developing at Italian Wikipedia related to a local law that would infringe neutrality on Wikipedia. The discussions even mention a possible blackout/lockdown

[Foundation-l] Fwd: It.wikipedia will be turned on

2011-10-06 Thread Ilario Valdelli
Sorry for the cross-posting, but I write here what I have already submitted to internal. It seems that there is the majority to put it.wikipedia.org alive again in the following hours. The law has not been approved yet but the committee, who has in charge the proposal, has accepted some

[Foundation-l] Crazy video (sorry if he has only subtitles in Italian)

2011-10-07 Thread Ilario Valdelli
A video about the request of some dictators to re-open Wikipedia: http://tv.repubblica.it/mondo/gheddafi-e-gli-altri-cosi-i-dittatori-salvano-wikipedia/77714/76104 Ilario ___ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe:

Re: [Foundation-l] Blackout at Italian Wikipedia

2011-10-08 Thread Ilario Valdelli
On 08.10.2011 11:11, Ray Saintonge wrote: I'm happy that the Italian language Wikipedia is back in business, and I hope that in the future projects will find better ways to protest than suicide strategies. The key point is that Wikipedias are based on languages, not countries. For Italian

Re: [Foundation-l] Letter to the community on Controversial Content

2011-10-09 Thread Ilario Valdelli
On 09.10.2011 17:00, Julius Redzinski wrote: That can just mean an italian solution. The Board is ignorant against the community needs and wishes, while the Foundation was just some month ago, so caring about the editors and to keep them happy and contributing to the projects. If the filter

Re: [Foundation-l] Letter to the community on Controversial Content

2011-10-11 Thread Ilario Valdelli
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Julius Redzinski julius.redzin...@hotmail.de wrote: On such a decision the Board should have before making any decision researched really what raeders expect and want and this with empathy for different regions and the understanding that germany maybe has

Re: [Foundation-l] Letter to the community on Controversial Content

2011-10-11 Thread Ilario Valdelli
reference, someone here has give a *direct personal offense*, he is not really a person who can educate about civilization and respect. Please be kind to apply the same measure for all comments. Thank you Ilario Valdelli ___ foundation-l mailing list

Re: [Foundation-l] News from Germany: White Bags and thinking about a fork

2011-10-23 Thread Ilario Valdelli
On 23.10.2011 19:05, Tobias Oelgarte wrote: The German poll made clear, that not any category based filter will be allowed, since category based filtering is unavoidably non-neutral and a censorship tool. Who the hell are you to forbid me or allow me to use a piece of software? I want to use

Re: [Foundation-l] Resolution:Developing Scenarios for future of fundraising

2012-01-20 Thread Ilario Valdelli
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Pronoein prono...@gmail.com wrote: Why does the Board of Trustees think that WMF should raise the «maximum possible amount of money»? Why not ask for what is needed and nothing more? I agree. A no profit association should raise the opportune amount

Re: [Foundation-l] Vice President?

2012-02-01 Thread Ilario Valdelli
Really strange because the title of president and that of vice-president belong to the board. Do you know that the board should not have any conflict of interests and should do the benefit of the overall foundation? If the titles of President or Vice-President is in charge of an executive

Re: [Foundation-l] Vice President?

2012-02-01 Thread Ilario Valdelli
, Feb 1, 2012 at 1:14 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com wrote: On 1 February 2012 11:59, Ilario Valdelli valde...@gmail.com wrote: Really strange because the title of president and that of vice-president belong to the board. The title President is sometimes used by the chair

Re: [Foundation-l] Call for nominations: chapter-appointed seats on the WMF Board of Trustees

2012-02-03 Thread Ilario Valdelli
On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 12:26 AM, Risker risker...@gmail.com wrote: The appointed members of the Board are chosen for their specific expertise and skill-set.  The Board does publicly identify the slots it is trying to fill when looking for appointees, and the qualifications that they require.

Re: [Foundation-l] Movement roles letter, Feb 2012

2012-02-15 Thread Ilario Valdelli
You have not understood the difference between a discussion in Meta and the transformation of this discussion in an operational implementation in the organization. This proposal has a lot of bugs, it seems like a discussion made in front of the coffee machine. Formally your point of view is

Re: [Foundation-l] Movement roles letter, Feb 2012

2012-02-16 Thread Ilario Valdelli
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 5:14 AM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 11:09 PM, Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com wrote: Jan-Bart and others have asked that you call him Jan-Bart. What part of that is confusing? You can ascribe your first error to different custom; continuing

Re: [Foundation-l] Communicating effectively: Wikimedia needs clear language now

2012-02-22 Thread Ilario Valdelli
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 4:19 AM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 3:16 AM, Tom Morris t...@tommorris.org wrote: Mostly though, thanks to the Internet and multinational corporations, godawful business jargon crosses all national borders. Words and phrases like

Re: [Foundation-l] A discussion list for Wikimedia (not Foundation) matters

2012-03-01 Thread Ilario Valdelli
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: Hi all, We currently have this public list for Wikimedia Foundation matters, as well as a private list called internal-l which in practice is in large part used for WMF/chapters discussions, because chapter board members

Re: [Foundation-l] Board Resolutions from March 30th 2012

2012-03-30 Thread Ilario Valdelli
The diversity and the variety helps to react in a better way to the changes. The reduction of the ways to donate helps to control and to monitor, but gives less variety. Ilario On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 12:17 AM, Nathan nawr...@gmail.com wrote: Since payment processing is not contemplated as a