Re: Minutes of the Board meeting of July 31st, 2013

2013-08-15 Thread Joanmarie Diggs
On 08/15/2013 07:40 AM, Germán Póo-Caamaño wrote: On Wed, 2013-08-14 at 22:06 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: * The travel committee is currently verifying the travel requests * The event's local team should take over this role * The travel committee needs more resources * Three potential

plans for FOSDEM 2014?

2013-08-15 Thread Emmanuele Bassi
hi all; I know that the FOSDEM organisers haven't sent out the email for booths and/rooms yet, but I just wanted to ask well in advance if we had volunteers for either. ciao, Emmanuele. -- W: http://www.emmanuelebassi.name B: http://blogs.gnome.org/ebassi/

Announcing GNOME's official GitHub mirror

2013-08-15 Thread Alberto Ruiz
Hello everyone, I've been working with the GitHub guys and Andrea Veri on setting up a mirror for all GNOME repos in GitHub. I have more detailes about this in a blog post[0] I just published. The aim of this mirror is just to serve as a starting point for people wanting to have a public branch

Re: plans for FOSDEM 2014?

2013-08-15 Thread Christophe Fergeau
Hey, 2013/8/15 Emmanuele Bassi eba...@gmail.com: I know that the FOSDEM organisers haven't sent out the email for booths and/rooms yet, but I just wanted to ask well in advance if we had volunteers for either. The call for devrooms has actually already been sent:

Re: Announcing GNOME's official GitHub mirror

2013-08-15 Thread Christophe Fergeau
2013/8/15 Alberto Ruiz ar...@gnome.org: Why did I choose github? Because that's where everybody is these days. Because we have nothing to lose by mirroring our repos there and we have a lot to gain. Promoting the non-free github while a free alternative exists (gitorious) is a big loss in my

Re: Announcing GNOME's official GitHub mirror

2013-08-15 Thread Alexandre Franke
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 11:26 AM, אנטולי קרסנר fr33domlo...@mailoo.org wrote: Hello, Hi, Examples: […] SourceForge SourceForge is actually free software now. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SourceForge#Apache_relicense (Certainly the popularity of GitHub is not the reason you chose it I

Re: Announcing GNOME's official GitHub mirror

2013-08-15 Thread Alexandre Franke
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Alberto Ruiz ar...@gnome.org wrote: Why did I choose github? Because that's where everybody is these days. Because we have nothing to lose by mirroring our repos there and we have a lot to gain. You're entitled to your opinion but you must be aware that some

Re: Announcing GNOME's official GitHub mirror

2013-08-15 Thread Alberto Ruiz
Hello Christophe, A script to mirror in gitorious is more than welcome. Also, a free alternative is a bit of a red herring, there is a technical alternative, yes, but there is no alternative to the user base inside github. Also, if you think hordes of people will stop using github just because

Re: Announcing GNOME's official GitHub mirror

2013-08-15 Thread James
On Thu, 2013-08-15 at 11:42 +0200, Alexandre Franke wrote: On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Alberto Ruiz ar...@gnome.org wrote: Why did I choose github? Because that's where everybody is these days. Because we have nothing to lose by mirroring our repos there and we have a lot to gain.

Re: Announcing GNOME's official GitHub mirror

2013-08-15 Thread Alberto Ruiz
Hello Alexandre, 2013/8/15 Alexandre Franke alexandre.fra...@gmail.com: (Certainly the popularity of GitHub is not the reason you chose it I guess, just like the popularity of Windows doesn't make us focus on Windows support, and the popularity of Skype doesn't make us focus on As you can

Re: Announcing GNOME's official GitHub mirror

2013-08-15 Thread Alberto Ruiz
A hook for github is more than welcome from my POV. 2013/8/15 James purplei...@gmail.com: On Thu, 2013-08-15 at 11:42 +0200, Alexandre Franke wrote: On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Alberto Ruiz ar...@gnome.org wrote: Why did I choose github? Because that's where everybody is these days.

Re: Announcing GNOME's official GitHub mirror

2013-08-15 Thread James
On Thu, 2013-08-15 at 11:50 +0200, Alberto Ruiz wrote: A hook for github is more than welcome from my POV. I'm guessing you mean gitorious... Are you able to point us to the github scripts and hooks that were already written so that someone might be able to port those or patch those instead of

Re: Announcing GNOME's official GitHub mirror

2013-08-15 Thread Maciej Piechotka
On Thu, 2013-08-15 at 11:34 +0200, Alberto Ruiz wrote: I don't think you've read my blog post and my email carefully, we are not replacing anything with anything. git.gnome.org is still based on cgit, people will still be required to use bugzilla to send their patches, we will not rely on

GUADEC videos are available only with nonfree codecs

2013-08-15 Thread Christian Persch
Hi; Yesterday I discovered that the GUADEC videos on http://www.superlectures.com/guadec2013/ are available only in proprietary formats, H.264 for the video and MP3 for the audio-only option. Why aren't they available at least *also* in formats using Free codecs (webm / theora / ogg) ?

Re: Announcing GNOME's official GitHub mirror

2013-08-15 Thread Christian Persch
Hi; From the associated blog post: As per people concerned about the fact that github is a closed source service, I have a few things to highlight: this is just a mirror, we won't rely on them for any of our activities. Also, GitHub has contributed a great deal of their infrastructure code to

Re: Announcing GNOME's official GitHub mirror

2013-08-15 Thread Alexandre Franke
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Alberto Ruiz ar...@gnome.org wrote: We should pick our fights, on the other hand, GitHub has released more open source code and tools than the gitorious community. We accept money from Google for the GSoC's every year and I see no complaints. Everything is a

Re: Announcing GNOME's official GitHub mirror

2013-08-15 Thread Claudio Saavedra
On Thu, 2013-08-15 at 11:03 +0200, Alberto Ruiz wrote: Hello everyone, I've been working with the GitHub guys and Andrea Veri on setting up a mirror for all GNOME repos in GitHub. Out of curiosity and given the controversy started by your choice of github -- what makes this mirror official?

Re: Announcing GNOME's official GitHub mirror

2013-08-15 Thread Alberto Ruiz
2013/8/15 Alexandre Franke alexandre.fra...@gmail.com: On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Alberto Ruiz ar...@gnome.org wrote: We should pick our fights, on the other hand, GitHub has released more open source code and tools than the gitorious community. We accept money from Google for the

Re: Announcing GNOME's official GitHub mirror

2013-08-15 Thread Debarshi Ray
Hey, On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 12:07:23PM +0200, Alexandre Franke wrote: Anyway this is really not what was the most important point to me in my previous email and you didn't answer the question I really cared about, so I'm asking again: is there a way for maintainers to opt out of the github

Re: Announcing GNOME's official GitHub mirror

2013-08-15 Thread Alberto Ruiz
Hello Christian, 2013/8/15 Christian Persch c...@gnome.org: Hi; From the associated blog post: As per people concerned about the fact that github is a closed source service, I have a few things to highlight: this is just a mirror, we won't rely on them for any of our activities. Also,

Re: GUADEC videos are available only with nonfree codecs

2013-08-15 Thread Debarshi Ray
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 12:02:37PM +0200, Christian Persch wrote: Yesterday I discovered that the GUADEC videos on http://www.superlectures.com/guadec2013/ are available only in proprietary formats, H.264 for the video and MP3 for the audio-only option. Well, atleast they don't use Flash. :-)

Re: Announcing GNOME's official GitHub mirror

2013-08-15 Thread Ekaterina Gerasimova
On 2013-08-15 11:46, Christian Persch wrote: Hi; From the associated blog post: As per people concerned about the fact that github is a closed source service, I have a few things to highlight: this is just a mirror, we won't rely on them for any of our activities. Also, GitHub has contributed

Re: GUADEC videos are available only with nonfree codecs

2013-08-15 Thread Rovanion Luckey
2013/8/15 Debarshi Ray rishi...@lostca.se Well, atleast they don't use Flash. :-) They do that too: http://www.superlectures.com/guadec2013/lecture-old-school-player?id=7viewMode=0camera=0 ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org

Re: GUADEC videos are available only with nonfree codecs

2013-08-15 Thread Rui Tiago Cação Matos
On 15 August 2013 12:02, Christian Persch c...@gnome.org wrote: Yesterday I discovered that the GUADEC videos on http://www.superlectures.com/guadec2013/ are available only in proprietary formats, H.264 for the video and MP3 for the audio-only option. No they are not available only in

Re: Announcing GNOME's official GitHub mirror

2013-08-15 Thread Alexandre Franke
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Debarshi Ray rishi...@lostca.se wrote: Speaking as someone who has a Gitorious account and not a GitHub one, what will you gain by opting out? It won't stop someone from cloning your code on GitHub. This way you atleast have a canonical tree on GitHub where

Re: Announcing GNOME's official GitHub mirror

2013-08-15 Thread Emmanuele Bassi
hi Christophe; On 15 August 2013 10:38, Christophe Fergeau t...@gnome.org wrote: 2013/8/15 Alberto Ruiz ar...@gnome.org: Why did I choose github? Because that's where everybody is these days. Because we have nothing to lose by mirroring our repos there and we have a lot to gain. Promoting

Re: GUADEC videos are available only with nonfree codecs

2013-08-15 Thread Andreas Nilsson
On 08/15/2013 12:02 PM, Christian Persch wrote: Yesterday I discovered that the GUADEC videos on http://www.superlectures.com/guadec2013/ are available only in proprietary formats, H.264 for the video and MP3 for the audio-only option. Why aren't they available at least *also* in formats using

Re: Announcing GNOME's official GitHub mirror

2013-08-15 Thread Emmanuele Bassi
hi; On 15 August 2013 11:38, Alexandre Franke alexandre.fra...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Debarshi Ray rishi...@lostca.se wrote: Speaking as someone who has a Gitorious account and not a GitHub one, what will you gain by opting out? It won't stop someone from cloning

Re: Announcing GNOME's official GitHub mirror

2013-08-15 Thread Claudio Saavedra
On Thu, 2013-08-15 at 12:15 +0200, Alberto Ruiz wrote: 2013/8/15 Claudio Saavedra csaave...@gnome.org: On Thu, 2013-08-15 at 11:03 +0200, Alberto Ruiz wrote: Hello everyone, I've been working with the GitHub guys and Andrea Veri on setting up a mirror for all GNOME repos in GitHub.

Re: Announcing GNOME's official GitHub mirror

2013-08-15 Thread Alberto Ruiz
I'm open to uncall it official, that won't make it any less official though :-) 2013/8/15 Claudio Saavedra csaave...@gnome.org: On Thu, 2013-08-15 at 12:15 +0200, Alberto Ruiz wrote: 2013/8/15 Claudio Saavedra csaave...@gnome.org: On Thu, 2013-08-15 at 11:03 +0200, Alberto Ruiz wrote: Hello

Re: GUADEC videos are available only with nonfree codecs

2013-08-15 Thread Christian Persch
Hi; Am Thu, 15 Aug 2013 12:33:16 +0200 schrieb Rui Tiago Cação Matos tiagoma...@gmail.com: On 15 August 2013 12:02, Christian Persch c...@gnome.org wrote: Yesterday I discovered that the GUADEC videos on http://www.superlectures.com/guadec2013/ are available only in proprietary formats,

Re: Announcing GNOME's official GitHub mirror

2013-08-15 Thread Christian Persch
Hi; Am Thu, 15 Aug 2013 12:24:21 +0200 schrieb Alberto Ruiz ar...@gnome.org: 2013/8/15 Christian Persch c...@gnome.org: Also, I'd like to question when and how it was decided to give this github mirror 'official' status? The fact that the hook is installed in the repos makes it official.

Re: Announcing GNOME's official GitHub mirror

2013-08-15 Thread Andrea Veri
I'm working on a wiki page with all the needed details, it'll be up for the end of the day :-) cheers, 2013/8/15 Gil Forcada Codinachs gforc...@gnome.org First of all, thanks for this! Couple of notes though: - I haven't seen the link to the script that does the mirroring I guess that is

Re: Announcing GNOME's official GitHub mirror

2013-08-15 Thread Alexandre Franke
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 12:44 PM, Emmanuele Bassi eba...@gmail.com wrote: I thought that making it easy for them to take the code and copy it was the entire point of using a distributed version control system. actually, I was pretty sure that this was the whole point of having free access to

Re: Announcing GNOME's official GitHub mirror

2013-08-15 Thread Alberto Ruiz
Hello Christian, 2013/8/15 Christian Persch c...@gnome.org: That's a distinction without difference. The point remains that the GNOME trademark is used to promote a proprietary web service. Coupled with the word Official this even constitutes a strong endorsement. It's the other way around,

Re: GUADEC videos are available only with nonfree codecs

2013-08-15 Thread Karen Sandler
On Thu, August 15, 2013 6:39 am, Andreas Nilsson wrote: On 08/15/2013 12:02 PM, Christian Persch wrote: Yesterday I discovered that the GUADEC videos on http://www.superlectures.com/guadec2013/ are available only in proprietary formats, H.264 for the video and MP3 for the audio-only option.

Re: Announcing GNOME's official GitHub mirror

2013-08-15 Thread Andrea Veri
Pressed sent too early. [1] https://wiki.gnome.org/Sysadmin/GitHub 2013/8/15 Andrea Veri a...@gnome.org 2013/8/15 Michael Catanzaro mcatanz...@gnome.org On Thu, 2013-08-15 at 12:26 +0300, אנטולי קרסנר wrote: Hello, GitHub indeed offers many features that Gnome's git web interface

Re: Announcing GNOME's official GitHub mirror

2013-08-15 Thread Andrea Veri
2013/8/15 Michael Catanzaro mcatanz...@gnome.org On Thu, 2013-08-15 at 12:26 +0300, אנטולי קרסנר wrote: Hello, GitHub indeed offers many features that Gnome's git web interface doesn't. Yes, but we've disabled them all. I really fail to see the point of GitHub without its killer

Re: Announcing GNOME's official GitHub mirror

2013-08-15 Thread Frederic Peters
Alberto Ruiz wrote: Sure, but if you want to play the integrity game, how come you are not questioning our usage of Google services all across our infrastructure? The usage of twitter and Google+ as outreach tools? I am sure many people could discuss this usage, and have, at least I know I

Re: Announcing GNOME's official GitHub mirror

2013-08-15 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On 13-08-15 07:55 AM, Alexandre Franke wrote: Ok, I probably misphrased that since English is not my native language. What I meant is that my code being mirrored is not something I want to push for, it's not something I consider as needed. That was an explanation for the fact that I won't be

Re: Announcing GNOME's official GitHub mirror

2013-08-15 Thread Richard Stallman
[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider [ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, [ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. We should pick our fights, on the other hand, GitHub has released more open

Re: GUADEC videos are available only with nonfree codecs

2013-08-15 Thread Richard Stallman
[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider [ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, [ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. Yesterday I discovered that the GUADEC videos on

Re: Announcing GNOME's official GitHub mirror

2013-08-15 Thread Richard Stallman
[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider [ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, [ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. By using gibhub for our 'official' git mirror, we're still promoting the use

Agenda for upcoming August 19th Board meeting

2013-08-15 Thread Andreas Nilsson
Hello Foundation Members! As promised earlier, I'm posting the upcoming board meeting agenda to foundation-list in addition to board-list. The next board meeting is this Tuesday the 19th of August at 16:00 UTC This is the agenda: * Implement a Foundation employee policy for COLA (Cost of

Re: GUADEC videos are available only with nonfree codecs

2013-08-15 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On 13-08-15 06:39 AM, Andreas Nilsson wrote: The most important part of the above message is that GUADEC videos are actually available! Indeed. As one who couldn't attend GUADEC this year I also want to thank the team to make them available and so fast! I've watched about ten of the talks

Re: Announcing GNOME's official GitHub mirror

2013-08-15 Thread Richard Stallman
[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider [ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, [ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. We're aware of the distinction between open source software and free/libre

Re: Announcing GNOME's official GitHub mirror

2013-08-15 Thread Richard Stallman
[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider [ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, [ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. Is it advisable to use nonfree GitHub as a secondary mirror for GNOME's free