Re: code of conduct question for Board candidates

2015-05-26 Thread Magdalen Berns
People can do as they like on their own systems and resources, but when participating in the GNOME community, they should do so with respect. Refusing to exclude anyone is itself an exclusionary policy; it selects for the kind of people who will put up with absolutely anything, and excludes

Re: code of conduct question for Board candidates

2015-05-26 Thread Allan Day
Hi Marina! Marina Zhurakhinskaya mari...@redhat.com wrote: ... Thanks to all the candidates for stepping up to run for the board and for all the work you already do for the Foundation! Many free software organizations have adopted codes of conduct for their events [1] and some for their

Re: code of conduct question for Board candidates

2015-05-26 Thread Marina Zhurakhinskaya
- Original Message - From: Josh Triplett j...@joshtriplett.org To: Marina Zhurakhinskaya mari...@redhat.com Cc: foundation-list foundation-list@gnome.org Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2015 1:06:49 PM Subject: Re: code of conduct question for Board candidates On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 11:41

Re: code of conduct question for Board candidates

2015-05-26 Thread Tobias Mueller
Hi! On Sa, 2015-05-23 at 11:41 -0400, Marina Zhurakhinskaya wrote: What do you think about adopting a detailed code of conduct, similar to the one used for GUADEC 2014 [3], for all GNOME events and creating a similarly detailed code of conduct for the GNOME community? It's a complicated

Re: code of conduct question for Board candidates

2015-05-26 Thread Josh Triplett
On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 05:05:30PM +0200, Alexandre Franke wrote: On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 7:42 PM, Josh Triplett j...@joshtriplett.org wrote: Nobody is asking anyone to sign anything. A CoC would simply be a stated policy for expected behavior on community resources, such as mailing lists,

Re: code of conduct question for Board candidates

2015-05-26 Thread Alexandre Franke
On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 7:42 PM, Josh Triplett j...@joshtriplett.org wrote: Nobody is asking anyone to sign anything. A CoC would simply be a stated policy for expected behavior on community resources, such as mailing lists, IRC, Bugzilla, wikis, email, etc. Except the board did ask the

Re: code of conduct question for Board candidates

2015-05-25 Thread Alexandre Franke
On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 5:41 PM, Marina Zhurakhinskaya mari...@redhat.com wrote: Hi, Hi, Many free software organizations have adopted codes of conduct for their events [1] and some for their communities [2]. Detailed codes of conduct with specific enforcement guidelines signal to

Re: code of conduct question for Board candidates

2015-05-25 Thread Carlos Soriano Sanchez
Hi Marina, I think we all agree we want a welcome community, and that means searching for the commune divisor and not allowing anything outside that. As far as I saw, all the previous answer from the candidates share the same opinion. I would actually like to have a code of conduct for every

Re: code of conduct question for Board candidates

2015-05-25 Thread Josh Triplett
On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 05:15:29PM -0400, Richard Stallman wrote: [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] I suggest

Re: code of conduct question for Board candidates

2015-05-25 Thread Andrea Veri
2015-05-23 17:41 GMT+02:00 Marina Zhurakhinskaya mari...@redhat.com: What do you think about adopting a detailed code of conduct, similar to the one used for GUADEC 2014 [3], for all GNOME events and creating a similarly detailed code of conduct for the GNOME community? Having a final

Re: code of conduct question for Board candidates

2015-05-25 Thread Josh Triplett
On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 07:11:42PM +0200, Olav Vitters wrote: On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 10:06:49AM -0700, Josh Triplett wrote: I'm entirely in favor of an improved code of conduct, both for events and in general. And thank you for raising this issue. Some searching turned up

Re: code of conduct question for Board candidates

2015-05-25 Thread Magdalen Berns
On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 6:42 PM, Josh Triplett j...@joshtriplett.org wrote: On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 07:11:42PM +0200, Olav Vitters wrote: On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 10:06:49AM -0700, Josh Triplett wrote: I'm entirely in favor of an improved code of conduct, both for events and in general.

Re: code of conduct question for Board candidates

2015-05-25 Thread Josh Triplett
On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 12:34:14AM +0100, Magdalen Berns wrote: OK in light of these responses, I feel I should maybe better clarify that whilst I agree this sort of stance may be a fair way to moderated communications with non-members, I do not agree with expelling card carrying members from

Re: code of conduct question for Board candidates

2015-05-24 Thread Magdalen Berns
Hi Marina, Thanks for your question! What do you think about adopting a detailed code of conduct, similar to the one used for GUADEC 2014 [3], for all GNOME events and creating a similarly detailed code of conduct for the GNOME community? I hold the view that the vast majority people will

Re: code of conduct question for Board candidates

2015-05-24 Thread Olav Vitters
On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 10:06:49AM -0700, Josh Triplett wrote: I'm entirely in favor of an improved code of conduct, both for events and in general. And thank you for raising this issue. Some searching turned up https://wiki.gnome.org/Foundation/CodeOfConduct , but that's definitely

Re: code of conduct question for Board candidates

2015-05-24 Thread Magdalen Berns
Hi Olav, I don't follow why I'd sign something can cause legal issues for me if I could do without that. I am not sure why you are concerned that a community code of conduct could cause legal issues for you, are you able to elaborate on that? I think in the question the GNOME community vs

Re: code of conduct question for Board candidates

2015-05-24 Thread Magdalen Berns
Hi Richard, I agree, it is probably appropriate for those of us who have answered to hold off on debating about CoCs for the time being. Apologies for the noise. I'm happy to back off so other candidates can answer Marina's question. Do carry on... :D Magdalen On Sun, May 24, 2015 at 10:15 PM,

Re: code of conduct question for Board candidates

2015-05-24 Thread Cosimo Cecchi
Hi Marina, On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 8:41 AM, Marina Zhurakhinskaya mari...@redhat.com wrote: What do you think about adopting a detailed code of conduct, similar to the one used for GUADEC 2014 [3], for all GNOME events and creating a similarly detailed code of conduct for the GNOME community?

Re: code of conduct question for Board candidates

2015-05-24 Thread Richard Stallman
[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] I suggest that we postpone discussion on codes of conduct until after the election.

code of conduct question for Board candidates

2015-05-23 Thread Marina Zhurakhinskaya
Hi, Thanks to all the candidates for stepping up to run for the board and for all the work you already do for the Foundation! Many free software organizations have adopted codes of conduct for their events [1] and some for their communities [2]. Detailed codes of conduct with specific

Re: code of conduct question for Board candidates

2015-05-23 Thread Josh Triplett
On Sat, May 23, 2015 at 11:41:06AM -0400, Marina Zhurakhinskaya wrote: Thanks to all the candidates for stepping up to run for the board and for all the work you already do for the Foundation! Many free software organizations have adopted codes of conduct for their events [1] and some for