Re: GNOME Travel Committee Travel Policy: A proposal for consideration and feedback

2009-02-17 Thread Stormy Peters
Claudio,

I think the 200 € was intended to apply to GUADEC. GUADEC is most of our
travel money. But it could be set on a case by case and could even be
lowered or waived on a case-by-case basis. (If we adopt it.)

Stormy

On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Claudio Saavedra csaave...@gnome.orgwrote:

 El mié, 11-02-2009 a las 18:05 +0100, Dave Neary escribió:
  Hi,
 
  Jason D. Clinton wrote:
   What should people who want to apply for Gran Caneria GUADEC do at
   this point? Also, it seems like anyone who might ask for help at some
   point in the future would be someone who shouldn't sit on the
   committee (to avoid accusation of COI).
 
  We haven't finalised registration yet - which we probebly should before
  opening up to sponsorship requests (only because handling this by email
  would be a mess  run the risk of falling through the cracks).
 
  We also need to make a couple of decisions on the budget, so that we
  know how much money, at a minimum, we have to spend on travel.
  Unfortunately, that's dragging on a bit, par for the course, but I'm
  trying to get at least a low-ball figure everyone can agree to so that
  we can get started.
 
  The travel form from Stormy is also clearly suitable for GUADEC - I
  anticipate that when we get a finalised agreement in place, we'll have
  sorted out budget concerns to my satisfaction, and if there isn't fast
  enough progress on a registration system, we should just proceed with
 email.

 And do you also plan to request the 200 € participation for GUADEC? That
 would most probably leave many students without the opportunity to
 participate. I expect this rule not to apply for GUADEC, specially since
 the next one is already in a extremely touristic and therefore expensive
 location.


 Claudio



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Re: GNOME Travel Committee Travel Policy: A proposal for consideration and feedback

2009-02-17 Thread Bruno Boaventura
Hey Stormy, Dave and Claudio!

 Seriously, I don't like this. Telling a student who's been contributing
 on his free time to the project that he needs to request special
 consideration if he can't afford those 200 € could even cause him not to
 apply at all.

 I think GUADEC is a special kind of conference in the sense it needs to
 be inclusive, specially for people who is not so integrated in the
 community and for whom attending may have a huge impact on their
 involvement. Maybe hackfests and other local conferences may suit better
 for the approach you propose, but definitively not GUADEC.

I'm with Claudio on this issue. Last year I could not go to GUADEC if
I had to pay 200 € (wait to be reimbursed has been difficult). GUADEC
should be a special case.

Bruno
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Re: GNOME Travel Committee Travel Policy: A proposal for consideration and feedback

2009-02-17 Thread Bruno Boaventura
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 9:30 PM, Alberto Ruiz ar...@gnome.org wrote:
 I have to point out here, that when I got sponsored in Vilanova, my
 contributions weren't that many to the point that I felt kind of
 guilty. But the fact that I was there really boost my enthusiasm,
 involvement and I felt committed to the project since then. We have to
 think in sending students to GUADEC as an investment.

The same for me, Alberto! GUADEC really boost my enthusiasm.
Now, I can die for GNOME! :-)

My 200€  :-)

Bruno
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Re: GNOME Travel Committee Travel Policy: A proposal for consideration and feedback

2009-02-17 Thread Stormy Peters
I feel strongly that students should be covered completely. I'd suggest that
as a standard policy whatever we decide on the 200.

Stormy

On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Bruno Boaventura brunoboavent...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 9:30 PM, Alberto Ruiz ar...@gnome.org wrote:
  I have to point out here, that when I got sponsored in Vilanova, my
  contributions weren't that many to the point that I felt kind of
  guilty. But the fact that I was there really boost my enthusiasm,
  involvement and I felt committed to the project since then. We have to
  think in sending students to GUADEC as an investment.

 The same for me, Alberto! GUADEC really boost my enthusiasm.
 Now, I can die for GNOME! :-)

 My 200€  :-)

 Bruno

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