Re: GNU hackers meeting GUADEC 2011 colocation?
Hi Andy, Andy Wingo wrote: So inspired by Vincent's recent mail, let this be a mini-proposal for GHM co-location with the 2011 GUADEC. The ideal needs would be one smallish (40-50 people) room for three days. GHM events have had some funding attached to them in the past, enough to support them; while of course I can't predict the future, GNU probably could help support costs of the venue, when the time comes to discuss that. Let me just confirm that that is not a typo - this is for 2011 yes, not 2010? If GUADEC and Akademy colocate again in 2011, do you think that might have an impact on the GHM? Cheers, Dave. -- Dave Neary GNOME Foundation member dne...@gnome.org ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: GNOME Foundation and CEO Goals
I would like to see us all agree on GNOME Foundation goals and then work on how I can best make those happen. So far we've gotten very little feedback on what people think the GNOME Foundation should accomplish in 2010. I've put together a short survey if you'd like to weigh in that way. Please take a minute and rank the GNOME Foundation 2010 goals: http://www.gnome.org/~behdad/survey/index.php?sid=68595 Thanks, Stormy On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 11:54 AM, Brian Cameron brian.came...@sun.comwrote: Og: I think there is more value in suggesting ways that the CEO goals should be refocused. However, there has been little discussion about that so far. How would you suggest improving the goals and metrics to ensure that concerns that you have are better addressed moving forward? For starters I can honestly say that opening things up as you did with this original email is a great step forward! To be clear, making this type of information open (that is not to say it wasn't before) and making people aware of it is what led me to ask about those things. Making more information like this (perhaps even telling people where to find it) available to the general public will definitely help to get more feedback and constructive criticism. Agreed. Striving towards more open and transparent process is something that we always are striving to do a better job. It would be good to develop more specific metrics, though, of what we would like to see going forward. What are the areas the board needs to focus on in this area the most? Also, in terms of Stormy's bonus, what sorts of things can she do specifically to help? I'd love to see milestones related to getting localization and accessibility teams on the roadmap for 2010 and holding sprints/what-not with members of these teams to see how to make GNOME more accessible to people who's first language is not English and for those who cannot currently use GNOME due to some limitation. One metric could be, how many different languages with a total percentage of less or equal to 50% translated strings have improved within the next release cycle? How many kept at 80% or above? How can the Foundation help to improve these numbers? Goals like this are great in terms of general GNOME Foundation goals. However, since we are working towards creating metrics for the CEO specifically, what work can the CEO do to help achieve this goal and how should we measure a bonus based on this sort of goal? We could just give the CEO a bonus if the GNOME project meets certain general goals, regardless of whether the CEO is involved in that project or not. However, this probably isn't the best way to develop an incentive plan. Are there organizations already using GNOME to attend their accessibility needs? Are there any goals related to making GNOME more accessible? Would it make sense to spend a release cycle and focus on improving these areas? Have we got any metrics on the progress (or lack of) of work being done in these areas? Many people do use GNOME's accessibility features, based on the discussions on the gnome-accessibility-list. The GNOME a11y team does have goals like working towards making GNOME shell and other clutter-based programs accessible, WebKit accessibility, etc. Again, if we want to focus on such goals in terms of CEO performance, we need to think about what work the CEO can specifically do to drive these goals forward. This was just a quick braindump but I could get more specific if needed. Basically, I'd love to see reports on how these areas playout in the overall picture of our roadmap for 2010 and what our CEO's plan is to improve them. Indeed. Our hope is that we can develop these via community discussion since it is more likely the the GNOME Foundation and CEO will best push overall GNOME community goals if we decide such things after discussion. However, there really have not been many comments so far, so I hope that is just because it takes people some time to consider all the information. It's a lot to think about and consider. Brian ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: GNU hackers meeting GUADEC 2011 colocation?
Hi Dave, On Tue 26 Jan 2010 15:07, Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org writes: Hi Andy, Andy Wingo wrote: So inspired by Vincent's recent mail, let this be a mini-proposal for GHM co-location with the 2011 GUADEC. The ideal needs would be one smallish (40-50 people) room for three days. GHM events have had some funding attached to them in the past, enough to support them; while of course I can't predict the future, GNU probably could help support costs of the venue, when the time comes to discuss that. Let me just confirm that that is not a typo - this is for 2011 yes, not 2010? That was the intention, yes. I figured it was too late to talk about 2010, but if GUADEC organizers are interested we could probably do something. If GUADEC and Akademy colocate again in 2011, do you think that might have an impact on the GHM? It would probably make it more awesome! There are a number of KDE-using GNU folk. There are GNOME people too, of course :) Regards, Andy -- http://wingolog.org/ ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: GNU hackers meeting GUADEC 2011 colocation?
2010/1/26 Andy Wingo wi...@pobox.com: Hi Dave, Hi Andy, If GUADEC and Akademy colocate again in 2011, do you think that might have an impact on the GHM? It would probably make it more awesome! There are a number of KDE-using GNU folk. There are GNOME people too, of course :) That doesn't really answers the question :P Dave is worried about any overhead that co-locating this could have with the organizing committee and the volunteers, what would GNU need in terms of resources, space, inftrastructure? how big could it be? That sort of stuff :-) Regards, Andy -- http://wingolog.org/ ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list -- Un saludo, Alberto Ruiz ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: GNU hackers meeting GUADEC 2011 colocation?
Hi Alberto, On Tue 26 Jan 2010 21:07, Alberto Ruiz ar...@gnome.org writes: 2010/1/26 Andy Wingo wi...@pobox.com: [Dave Neary wrote] If GUADEC and Akademy colocate again in 2011, do you think that might have an impact on the GHM? It would probably make it more awesome! There are a number of KDE-using GNU folk. There are GNOME people too, of course :) That doesn't really answers the question :P Hm, we enter the realm of interpretation :) Dave is worried about any overhead that co-locating this could have with the organizing committee and the volunteers, what would GNU need in terms of resources, space, inftrastructure? how big could it be? That sort of stuff :-) Is there something that my original message didn't make clear? :) Resources: GHM has had low budgets in the past, due to reuse of venue, and sponsorship from various organizations (FSF and FSFE, to name recent examples) Space: As mentioned in my original mail, ideally one room of 40-50 people for three days. Could be before/after the main GUADEC days. Infrastructure: Normal infrastructure associated with a room: projector or screen of some sort, and ideally internet though that is not essential, and we all know how conferences work in the end... (/me thinks of Vilanova) Cheers, Andy -- http://wingolog.org/ ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: GNOME Foundation and CEO Goals
On Tue, 2010-01-26 at 14:19 -0500, Og Maciel wrote: On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 2:07 PM, Stormy Peters stormy.pet...@gmail.com wrote: So far we've gotten very little feedback on what people think the GNOME Foundation should accomplish in 2010. I've put together a short survey if you'd like to weigh in that way. Awesome! Guess my previous emails were my wish list for the Board to look into for 2010 (though my initial email was more like a list for the CEO)... I like this survey and have already submitted my choices. I look forward to seeing the results and the discussions that will issue from it. Yes, this survey is very useful. Thanks a lot for this, Stormy. I hope the survey results will be made available soon. -- Philip Van Hoof, freelance software developer home: me at pvanhoof dot be gnome: pvanhoof at gnome dot org http://pvanhoof.be/blog http://codeminded.be ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: [gnu-prog-discuss] GNU hackers meeting GUADEC 2011 colocation?
At Mon, 25 Jan 2010 15:27:57 +0100, Andy Wingo wrote: So inspired by Vincent's recent mail, let this be a mini-proposal for GHM co-location with the 2011 GUADEC. The ideal needs would be one smallish (40-50 people) room for three days. GHM events have had some funding attached to them in the past, enough to support them; while of course I can't predict the future, GNU probably could help support costs of the venue, when the time comes to discuss that. From the GNU side, it is definitely useful to colocate with another event. So if it is possible to do that at GUADEC in the future I think it would be a good thing. -- Brian Gough (former GHM organiser) ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: GNU hackers meeting GUADEC 2011 colocation?
On 1/26/10 4:56 PM, Andrew Cowie and...@operationaldynamics.com wrote: On Tue, 2010-01-26 at 21:43 +0100, Andy Wingo wrote: (/me thinks of Vilanova) Which was a bloody awesome GUADEC, in no small measure because of the Ice Cream shop, and fluendo's Beach Party. They're _all_ awesome, but yes. That. Oh? Internet access. Did we need that? The first day or so at Birmingham, we all got onto the Internet using one attendee's Nokia S60 phone, which he turned into a WiFi access point I'm not sure which is more frightening: that we did it, or that we _could_. ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
