Re: A few questions for the candidates

2010-06-02 Thread Seif Lotfy
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 11:30 PM, Vincent Untz vu...@gnome.org wrote: Hi, I originally wanted to have some questions included in the list of questions sent by the membership committee, but I feel like waiting for Friday while the voting period is already opened is waiting a long time and I'm

Re: Some notes on GNOME Shell

2010-06-02 Thread Patryk Zawadzki
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 2:11 AM, Owen Taylor otay...@redhat.com wrote: The secret master plan  Boy do I wish I had a secret master plan tucked in a drawer  somewhere! It would be really useful  To the extent we have a master plan, it's in two documents  that everybody has seen:

Re: Some notes on GNOME Shell

2010-06-02 Thread jhs
Hi! I think the community would love to see some more why behind the how :) For example I'd like to know why shell reinvents the graphical toolkit and comes with a (hardcoded?) theme which in turn makes it look out of place. Or why JS and not LUA or Python. I'm sure there was some

Re: Some notes on GNOME Shell

2010-06-02 Thread Olav Vitters
On Wed, Jun 02, 2010 at 11:57:49AM +0200, Patryk Zawadzki wrote: On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 2:11 AM, Owen Taylor otay...@redhat.com wrote: The secret master plan  Boy do I wish I had a secret master plan tucked in a drawer  somewhere! It would be really useful  To the extent we have a

Re: Some notes on GNOME Shell

2010-06-02 Thread Emmanuele Bassi
On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 11:57 +0200, Patryk Zawadzki wrote: On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 2:11 AM, Owen Taylor otay...@redhat.com wrote: The secret master plan Boy do I wish I had a secret master plan tucked in a drawer somewhere! It would be really useful To the extent we have a master

Re: Some notes on GNOME Shell

2010-06-02 Thread Emmanuele Bassi
On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 12:52 +0200, Patryk Zawadzki wrote: sure, if you disagree on the choice of colors in the CSS theme then you can discuss it with the UI design team - as long as you avoid bike-shedding them to death because that's not nice and all; but if you want to discuss the

Re: Some notes on GNOME Shell

2010-06-02 Thread Piñeiro
From: Emmanuele Bassi eba...@gmail.com It's details like this that make the project look more like OpenOffice than a GNOME app (here's the resulting code versus here are the plans and the rationale, please discuss). what's fundamental is that not everything should be open to discussion.

Re: Some notes on GNOME Shell

2010-06-02 Thread Patryk Zawadzki
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 1:14 PM, Emmanuele Bassi eba...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 12:52 +0200, Patryk Zawadzki wrote:  GNOME Shell is radically different here so it's not the usual case. I wondered not about the supposed one-upping the color choices but about actually using the

Re: Some notes on GNOME Shell

2010-06-02 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 14:40 +0200, Patryk Zawadzki wrote: On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 1:14 PM, Emmanuele Bassi eba...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 12:52 +0200, Patryk Zawadzki wrote: GNOME Shell is radically different here so it's not the usual case. I wondered not about the supposed

Re: A few questions for the candidates

2010-06-02 Thread Stormy Peters
2010/6/2 Seif Lotfy s...@lotfy.com: I read it a week ago before deciding to run for candidacy (someone tipped me to do so)  and while I am very surprised by the income and outcome, there should be a security buffer of 20% at least... This is a point I think should be discussed by the board and

Re: A few questions for the candidates

2010-06-02 Thread Og Maciel
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 5:30 PM, Vincent Untz vu...@gnome.org wrote: 1) I've read with interest the mails from the candidates announcing   they're running, and most (if not all -- I didn't double-check)   include some motivations with examples of what they'd be interested   in working on.  

Re: question for candidates

2010-06-02 Thread Og Maciel
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Richard Stallman r...@gnu.org wrote: GNOME is good free software, and thus contributes at the practical level.  How will candidates use the user community's awareness of GNOME to contribute to educating the communityn about freedom? The way I see it, GNOME

Re: A few questions for the candidates

2010-06-02 Thread Jonh Wendell
Em Ter, 2010-06-01 às 23:30 +0200, Vincent Untz escreveu: Hi, Hi Vincent, hi all. 1) I've read with interest the mails from the candidates announcing they're running, and most (if not all -- I didn't double-check) include some motivations with examples of what they'd be interested

Re: question for candidates

2010-06-02 Thread Ciaran O'Riordan
Og Maciel ogmac...@gnome.org writes: The way I see it, GNOME equals good, valuable software and freedom of choice. Hi, Can you say what freedom of choice means? Is it the freedom to choose between various software packages, i.e Will I choose to use Flash or Silverlight? Or is it always

Re: question for candidates

2010-06-02 Thread Og Maciel
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Ciaran O'Riordan cia...@member.fsf.org wrote: Can you say what freedom of choice means? Is it the freedom to choose between various software packages, i.e Will I choose to use Flash or Silverlight? Or is it always having the choice of downloading the source

Re: question for candidates

2010-06-02 Thread Jonh Wendell
Em Ter, 2010-06-01 às 17:03 -0400, Richard Stallman escreveu: Here is a question for the candidates. To advance to the goal of freedom for software users, we need to develop good free software, and we need to teach people to value and demand the freedom that free software offers them. We

Re: Some notes on GNOME Shell

2010-06-02 Thread Sergey Panov
On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 11:31 +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 11:57 +0200, Patryk Zawadzki wrote: On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 2:11 AM, Owen Taylor otay...@redhat.com wrote: The secret master plan Boy do I wish I had a secret master plan tucked in a drawer somewhere!

Re: Some notes on GNOME Shell

2010-06-02 Thread Sandy Armstrong
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 4:23 PM, Sergey Panov si...@sipan.org wrote: I sense a suspicion from the outsiders (not RedHat employees) that project is not just manned by the RedHat employees, but controlled by the company It's controlled by the people doing the work, like any other project. What

Re: Some notes on GNOME Shell

2010-06-02 Thread Sergey Panov
On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 20:45 -0700, Sandy Armstrong wrote: On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 4:23 PM, Sergey Panov si...@sipan.org wrote: I sense a suspicion from the outsiders (not RedHat employees) that project is not just manned by the RedHat employees, but controlled by the company It's