Re: GNOME Foundation Elections 2007. Let's start the debate!

2007-11-26 Thread Richard Stallman
> We should then back that up by only providing > a oneway OOXML to ODF converter. Doesn't that lock our users in? Data in a publicly documented standard format is not locked-in. Isn't that bad by principle? Locking people in is bad, but that's impossible to do with free software

Re: A question to candidates

2007-11-26 Thread Brian Cameron
Questions have been asked from a few people. I will respond to them in one email rather than clutter your mailbox... ### Dave Neary asks: > What do you see as the best way to spend this money? In terms of > hiring, do you prefer hiring a sysadmin, or an executive director? > What other prior

Re: two questions for candidates

2007-11-26 Thread Lucas Rocha
Hi, 2007/11/26, Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > 1. Would you change anything in the GNOME Foundation statement about > OOXML? I would change the date it was released. :-) I think the most serious problem about GNOME Foundation participation on ECMA TC45-M was that it wasn't properly expla

Re: GNOME Foundation Statement on ECMA TC45-M Participation

2007-11-26 Thread Richard Stallman
The sell here for Microsoft is very very easy. The small businesses that I do consulting for here in the US all use Microsoft operating systems and office products. Do you talk to them about moving to free software? ___ foundation-list maili

Re: two questions for candidates

2007-11-26 Thread Jeff Waugh
> Finally, I'd have liked it to have been more timely. I think Jeff is right > that it would not have changed the impact much (we'd still have been > flamed) but we'd have looked like we were doing it above board, instead of > trying to sneak behind anyone's back. Agree. :-\ - Jeff -- linux.c

Re: two questions for candidates

2007-11-26 Thread Luis Villa
On Nov 26, 2007 10:28 AM, Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 1. Would you change anything in the GNOME Foundation statement about > OOXML? I wish it were more explicit about how the Foundation feels that the ODF folks have been undermining the standards process. It isn't obvious to ever

Re: two questions for candidates

2007-11-26 Thread Diego Escalante Urrelo
Hey, On 11/26/07, Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 1. Would you change anything in the GNOME Foundation statement about > OOXML? > Mmmm, I would have included a line in all-caps saying "GNOME Foundation doesn't like OOXML, we have someone in the committee because standard or not Ms i

Re: GNOME Foundation Elections 2007. Let's start the debate!

2007-11-26 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
On Sun, 2007-11-25 at 18:50 -0600, George Kraft wrote: > We should then back that up by only providing > a oneway OOXML to ODF converter. Doesn't that lock our users in? Isn't that bad by principle? Or is it just bad when our competitors do it? -- behdad http://behdad.org/ "Those who would g

Pre-announcement about joining ECMA

2007-11-26 Thread Jeff Waugh
> The fault lies with the Foundation for not communicating it decisions when > they happened in a format that is easily digested. Hey, I don't want this to sound like rationalisation for the mistake we made (we did say we were going to do an announcement when it happened, and it slipped through

Re: two questions for candidates

2007-11-26 Thread John (J5) Palmieri
On Mon, 2007-11-26 at 10:28 -0500, Richard Stallman wrote: > 1. Would you change anything in the GNOME Foundation statement about > OOXML? I think the statement was fine ... if you like reading press releases. It was detailed and stepped through the process of making the decision. Analysts would

Re: A question to candidates

2007-11-26 Thread Jeff Waugh
> Well one week point is the board seems almost foreign to the every day > GNOME contributor. People vote and pretty much forget about the inner > workings until Slashdot gets a hold on some sensationalized story and a > press release is put out and still to the outside world the role of the > f

Re: A question to candidates

2007-11-26 Thread John (J5) Palmieri
On Thu, 2007-11-22 at 18:11 +0100, Dave Neary wrote: > Hi, > > I did send these to the membership committee, but voting's nearly open, > and I think they're important, so I guess I'll just ask... > > The foundation's role is essentially to facilitate the enthusiasm of the > GNOME project, as And

Re: two questions for candidates

2007-11-26 Thread Jeff Waugh
> 1. Would you change anything in the GNOME Foundation statement about > OOXML? I'd probably include a message about not fighting OOXML on political grounds because they have no impact on the ISO standardisation process. To succeed, we need to fight OOXML under the terms defined by ISO, which me

Re: Questions to the candidates

2007-11-26 Thread Anne Østergaard
On Mon, 2007-11-26 at 09:48 -0500, John (J5) Palmieri wrote: > On Thu, 2007-11-22 at 23:52 +0100, Anne Østergaard wrote: > > Questions to the candidates: > > > > Will you apply for the position as new Executive Director for GNOME? > > No > > > > Will you apply for any paid position within GNOME

two questions for candidates

2007-11-26 Thread Richard Stallman
1. Would you change anything in the GNOME Foundation statement about OOXML? 2. How do you think the GNOME Foundation should support the Free Software Movement in general? ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/ma

Re: GNOME Foundation Statement on ECMA TC45-M Participation

2007-11-26 Thread jamie
On Mon, 2007-11-26 at 09:49 -0500, Gregory Leblanc wrote: > On Nov 25, 2007 12:39 PM, jamie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sun, 2007-11-25 at 12:18 -0500, Jody Goldberg wrote: > > > On Sun, Nov 25, 2007 at 12:56:09PM +, jamie wrote: > > > > > Office 2007 has less than 10% of all office vers

Re: GNOME Foundation Statement on ECMA TC45-M Participation

2007-11-26 Thread Gregory Leblanc
On Nov 25, 2007 12:39 PM, jamie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 2007-11-25 at 12:18 -0500, Jody Goldberg wrote: > > On Sun, Nov 25, 2007 at 12:56:09PM +, jamie wrote: > > > Office 2007 has less than 10% of all office versions (50m out of 500m) > > Which is already comperable to the OO.o i

Re: Questions to the candidates

2007-11-26 Thread John (J5) Palmieri
On Thu, 2007-11-22 at 23:52 +0100, Anne Østergaard wrote: > Questions to the candidates: > > Will you apply for the position as new Executive Director for GNOME? No > > Will you apply for any paid position within GNOME while serving as board > member? No > Will you attend at least 90% of the

Re: GNOME Foundation Elections 2007. Let's start the debate!

2007-11-26 Thread Anne Østergaard
On Mon, 2007-11-26 at 10:23 +0100, Vincent Untz wrote: > Le lundi 26 novembre 2007, à 20:17 +1100, Jeff Waugh a écrit : > > > > > > > > [6] Some of the tasks of a Board Member are mundane administrative > > > > tasks, are you comfortable taking on such tasks as opposed to being > > > > always inv

Re: GNOME Foundation Elections 2007. Let's start the debate!

2007-11-26 Thread Jeff Waugh
> Jeff is right: it's not all rollercoasters and martinis. There's ice cream > too. I heartily endorse this strategy. http://www.flickr.com/photos/garrett/858313114/ - Jeff -- linux.conf.au 2008: Melbourne, Australiahttp://lca2008.linux.org.au/ "Microsoft treats security

Re: GNOME Foundation Elections 2007. Let's start the debate!

2007-11-26 Thread Vincent Untz
Le lundi 26 novembre 2007, à 20:17 +1100, Jeff Waugh a écrit : > > > > > [6] Some of the tasks of a Board Member are mundane administrative > > > tasks, are you comfortable taking on such tasks as opposed to being > > > always involved in strategic and visionary thinking ? > > > > Handling these

Re: GNOME Foundation Elections 2007. Let's start the debate!

2007-11-26 Thread Jeff Waugh
> > [6] Some of the tasks of a Board Member are mundane administrative > > tasks, are you comfortable taking on such tasks as opposed to being > > always involved in strategic and visionary thinking ? > > Handling these mundane administrative tasks is fine for now, but should > there be an execu

Re: Questions to the candidates

2007-11-26 Thread George Kraft
> Will you apply for the position as new Executive Director for GNOME? No. > Will you apply for any paid position within GNOME while serving as board > member? No. > Will you attend at least 90% of the board calls? I would make a best effort to attend. > Can you accept competing official

Re: GNOME Foundation Elections 2007. Let's start the debate!

2007-11-26 Thread George Kraft
> [1] How much impact would being a member of the GNOME Foundation Board > have on your current contributions to GNOME ? This past summer my job changed and I'm not directly contributing to GNOME accessibility, so participating on the board should not be a conflict. > [2] Online Desktop and Ser