Re: GNOME DVCS Survey Results

On Mon, 2009-01-05 at 00:18 +0100, Olav Vitters wrote: > I am not evading. Stop trying to make this personal. I don't care about > CoC, I don't like you're talking to me. Please. Stop trying to make this look like it's personal and like I'm assaulting you. Because I didn't. And I resent the accusa

Re: GNOME DVCS Survey Results

On Sun, Jan 04, 2009 at 06:05:30PM -0500, David Zeuthen wrote: > On Sun, 2009-01-04 at 23:58 +0100, Olav Vitters wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 04, 2009 at 05:40:18PM -0500, David Zeuthen wrote: > > > Is it *really* so hard to understand that this whole git-serve is a > > > terrible idea? > > > > You expe

Re: GNOME DVCS Survey Results

On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 12:04:30AM +0100, Johannes Schmid wrote: > Hi! > > > It seems pretty clear to me that any 'homegrown' system like this is > > not suitable as a longterm, stable solution for a project the size of > > gnome. > > I totally agree here! This is simply a problem of QA. If someo

Re: GNOME DVCS Survey Results

On Sun, 2009-01-04 at 23:58 +0100, Olav Vitters wrote: > On Sun, Jan 04, 2009 at 05:40:18PM -0500, David Zeuthen wrote: > > Is it *really* so hard to understand that this whole git-serve is a > > terrible idea? > > You expect me to reply to this??!? I expected you to reply to the other three mail

Re: GNOME DVCS Survey Results

Hi! > It seems pretty clear to me that any 'homegrown' system like this is > not suitable as a longterm, stable solution for a project the size of > gnome. I totally agree here! This is simply a problem of QA. If someone writes a system that can serve all possible (D)VCS clients that's fine but t

Re: GNOME DVCS Survey Results

On Sun, Jan 04, 2009 at 05:40:18PM -0500, David Zeuthen wrote: > Is it *really* so hard to understand that this whole git-serve is a > terrible idea? You expect me to reply to this??!? -- Regards, Olav ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@

Re: GNOME DVCS Survey Results

On Sun, 2009-01-04 at 23:01 +0200, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) wrote: > > To be honest, > > I really wonder if something else would happen that I'd qualify as a > > good switch. > > How about we set-up a task-force of volunteers who would want to > help in the move, each volunteer promising at least

Re: GNOME DVCS Survey Results

On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 11:33 PM, Olav Vitters wrote: > On Sun, Jan 04, 2009 at 05:29:02PM -0500, David Zeuthen wrote: > > Uh, but that's exactly how I understood the proposal and I believe that > > the points I made (that you didn't respond to) still stands: That it's > > crazy to officially want

Re: GNOME DVCS Survey Results

On Sun, Jan 04, 2009 at 11:37:05PM +0100, Patryk Zawadzki wrote: > On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 11:33 PM, Olav Vitters wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 04, 2009 at 05:29:02PM -0500, David Zeuthen wrote: > >> Uh, but that's exactly how I understood the proposal and I believe that > >> the points I made (that you d

Re: GNOME DVCS Survey Results

On Sun, 2009-01-04 at 23:33 +0100, Olav Vitters wrote: > On Sun, Jan 04, 2009 at 05:29:02PM -0500, David Zeuthen wrote: > > Uh, but that's exactly how I understood the proposal and I believe that > > the points I made (that you didn't respond to) still stands: That it's > > crazy to officially want

Re: GNOME DVCS Survey Results

On Sun, Jan 04, 2009 at 05:29:02PM -0500, David Zeuthen wrote: > Uh, but that's exactly how I understood the proposal and I believe that > the points I made (that you didn't respond to) still stands: That it's > crazy to officially want to support git, bzr and hg *at* the same time > *from* the sam

Re: GNOME DVCS Survey Results

On Sun, 2009-01-04 at 23:20 +0100, Ali Sabil wrote: > First, it only makes it much harder for users to grasp; we're > going to > end up with some projects have l.g.o pages / README files / > mailing list > messages saying "use bzr to check out this branch" an

Re: GNOME DVCS Survey Results

On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 11:16 PM, Robin Sonefors wrote: > On sön, 2009-01-04 at 23:58 +0200, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 11:47 PM, Luca Ferretti > wrote: > > > Il giorno dom, 04/01/2009 alle 16.11 -0500, Matthias Clasen ha scritto: > > > > > >> It seems pretty clear to

Re: GNOME DVCS Survey Results

On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 11:05 PM, David Zeuthen wrote: > On Sun, 2009-01-04 at 22:47 +0100, Frederic Peters wrote: > > Probably just like bzr already went through several repository formats > > and allowed easy upgrades (just like Subversion repository format > > changed and it didn't cause any pr

Re: GNOME DVCS Survey Results

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Matthias Clasen schrieb: > On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 3:59 PM, David Zeuthen wrote: >> On Sun, 2009-01-04 at 17:48 +, John Carr wrote: >>> As bkor has stated, there are lots of Git users so any implementation >>> will support you, and support you well

Re: GNOME DVCS Survey Results

On Sun, 2009-01-04 at 22:47 +0100, Frederic Peters wrote: > Probably just like bzr already went through several repository formats > and allowed easy upgrades (just like Subversion repository format > changed and it didn't cause any problem for users). I don't think > there is a problem here. I d

Re: GNOME DVCS Survey Results

On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 11:47 PM, Luca Ferretti wrote: > Il giorno dom, 04/01/2009 alle 16.11 -0500, Matthias Clasen ha scritto: > >> It seems pretty clear to me that any 'homegrown' system like this is >> not suitable as a longterm, stable solution for a project the size of >> gnome. > > BTW, once

Re: GNOME DVCS Survey Results

On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 3:47 PM, Luca Ferretti wrote: > bzr allows lightweight checkouts [1]. What about git? Yes, it does. This is not an issue. ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation

Re: GNOME DVCS Survey Results

David Zeuthen wrote: > On Sun, 2009-01-04 at 17:48 +, John Carr wrote: > > As bkor has stated, there are lots of Git users so any implementation > > will support you, and support you well. That is a requirement. So any > > talk of my idea is not Git vs Bazaar, its talk of one way we can move >

Re: GNOME DVCS Survey Results

On Sun, 2009-01-04 at 23:01 +0200, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) wrote: > How about we set-up a task-force of volunteers who would want to > help in the move, each volunteer promising at least 3 hours a week? 3 > hours is a very small amount of time but I am hoping that we'll be > able to gather at least

Re: GNOME DVCS Survey Results

On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 3:59 PM, David Zeuthen wrote: > On Sun, 2009-01-04 at 17:48 +, John Carr wrote: >> As bkor has stated, there are lots of Git users so any implementation >> will support you, and support you well. That is a requirement. So any >> talk of my idea is not Git vs Bazaar, its

Re: GNOME DVCS Survey Results

On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) wrote: > How about we set-up a task-force of volunteers who would want to > help in the move, each volunteer promising at least 3 hours a week? 3 > hours is a very small amount of time but I am hoping that we'll be > able to gather at least 10

Re: GNOME DVCS Survey Results

Hi! On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 6:06 PM, Olav Vitters wrote: > On Sun, Jan 04, 2009 at 09:40:33AM -0600, Jason D. Clinton wrote: >> On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Olav Vitters wrote: >> Moving will not be easy, obviously. But doing it John's way will be, >> in my technical analysis, an order of magn

Re: GNOME DVCS Survey Results

On Sun, 2009-01-04 at 17:48 +, John Carr wrote: > As bkor has stated, there are lots of Git users so any implementation > will support you, and support you well. That is a requirement. So any > talk of my idea is not Git vs Bazaar, its talk of one way we can move > forward. So i dont consider i

Re: GNOME DVCS Survey Results

2009-01-04 klockan 15:10 skrev Jason D. Clinton: > I'd like to point out that--of the 15 people who regularly use git and > bzr--git still won. Two remarks. First remark: In the survey I answered that I do not really know much about git, and that I do not use it often. This has a reason, which I

Re: GNOME DVCS Survey Results

>> Anyway, I'd rather add John Carr to the sysadmin team. I plan to make a >> proposal to switch GNOME to a DVCS where Git works using Johns >> suggestion. Then other sysadmins[1] can suggest whatever proposal they >> want. These proposals can be investigated on merit and then a one can be >> chose

Re: GNOME DVCS Survey Results

Not to be hostile, but please don't accuse me of "holding" anything up or being a vocal minority. I have never spoken out, posted, or blogged about any of the DVCS decisions. I think I said in the survey I would prefer bzr, however I didn't really care at the time (and much less since Disco

Re: GNOME DVCS Survey Results

> Elijah Newren did an initial analysis of the data. His analysis also includes > the survey questions and answers. Find it at: > > http://blogs.gnome.org/newren/2009/01/03/gnome-dvcs-survey-results/ > This is pretty decent analysis going on here :) I'd like to remind people of John Carr'

Re: GNOME DVCS Survey Results

On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 11:48 AM, John Carr wrote: > I'm not a complete idiot - if it was going to be a "degraded, > bastardized form" of Git I wouldn't waste my time on it. I suppose I > might be an evil genius stalling for "Bazaar DS9" to be written (sorry > for the very bad joke that probably on

Re: GNOME DVCS Survey Results

On Sun, Jan 04, 2009 at 09:40:33AM -0600, Jason D. Clinton wrote: > On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Olav Vitters wrote: > > That isn't a contest. It is a survey. > > Please don't read more in to my email than I intended. There's no need > to get defensive. It is not defensive. I don't like chang

Re: GNOME DVCS Survey Results

On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Olav Vitters wrote: > That isn't a contest. It is a survey. Please don't read more in to my email than I intended. There's no need to get defensive. >> It >> seems to me that a lot of brain power,

Re: GNOME DVCS Survey Results

On Sun, Jan 04, 2009 at 08:10:21AM -0600, Jason D. Clinton wrote: > > This is pretty decent analysis going on here :) > > > > I'd like to remind people of John Carr's recent blog post too, someone > > mentioned in the survey results actually. JC has been working on bzr with > > git protocol suppo

Re: GNOME DVCS Survey Results

Hi! First of all, thanks a millions to Behdad and Elijah for taking up this task and congrats for managing to accomplish it so effectively. On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Jason D. Clinton wrote: > On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 2:43 AM, Karl Lattimer wrote: >> I'd like to remind people of John Carr'

Re: GNOME DVCS Survey Results

On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 2:43 AM, Karl Lattimer wrote: >> Elijah Newren did an initial analysis of the data. His analysis also >> includes >> the survey questions and answers. Find it at: >> >> http://blogs.gnome.org/newren/2009/01/03/gnome-dvcs-survey-results/ >> > > This is pretty decent anal