Re: "Boston" Summit 2013?

[john palmieri]

My offer of advice extends to this summit also.
On May 1, 2013 12:57 AM, "Sriram Ramkrishna"  wrote:

>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 9:41 PM, meg ford  wrote:
>
>> If we do bids, I might be able to talk the Chicago GNOME community into
>> applying for a future year. We are in the middle of the US, and have a
>> major international airport, so it might be a nice option.
>>
>>
> Meg, that sounds like a great idea.
>
>
> I think we have decided on Montreal since we have a volunteeer.  You will
> need to do a venue that will support 35-50 people.
>
> sri
>
>
>> Meg
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 11:35 PM, Jared L Jennings <
>> jaredljenni...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> +1
>>>  Jared Jennings
>>> jaredljenni...@gmail.com
>>>
>>> On Apr 30, 2013, at 8:27 PM, john palmieri 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Just a suggestion, perhaps the next year's location should be bid on and
>>> announced during the current year's summit like GUADEC is.  That would make
>>> it much easier to plan for budgets, etc.
>>>
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Re: "Boston" Summit 2013?

[Sriram Ramkrishna]

On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 9:41 PM, meg ford  wrote:

> If we do bids, I might be able to talk the Chicago GNOME community into
> applying for a future year. We are in the middle of the US, and have a
> major international airport, so it might be a nice option.
>
>
Meg, that sounds like a great idea.


I think we have decided on Montreal since we have a volunteeer.  You will
need to do a venue that will support 35-50 people.

sri


> Meg
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 11:35 PM, Jared L Jennings <
> jaredljenni...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> +1
>>  Jared Jennings
>> jaredljenni...@gmail.com
>>
>> On Apr 30, 2013, at 8:27 PM, john palmieri 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Just a suggestion, perhaps the next year's location should be bid on and
>> announced during the current year's summit like GUADEC is.  That would make
>> it much easier to plan for budgets, etc.
>>
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Re: "Boston" Summit 2013?

[meg ford]

If we do bids, I might be able to talk the Chicago GNOME community into
applying for a future year. We are in the middle of the US, and have a
major international airport, so it might be a nice option.

Meg


On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 11:35 PM, Jared L Jennings  wrote:

> +1
>  Jared Jennings
> jaredljenni...@gmail.com
>
> On Apr 30, 2013, at 8:27 PM, john palmieri 
> wrote:
>
> Just a suggestion, perhaps the next year's location should be bid on and
> announced during the current year's summit like GUADEC is.  That would make
> it much easier to plan for budgets, etc.
>
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Re: "Boston" Summit 2013?

[Jared L Jennings]

+1
Jared Jennings
jaredljenni...@gmail.com

On Apr 30, 2013, at 8:27 PM, john palmieri  wrote:

> Just a suggestion, perhaps the next year's location should be bid on and 
> announced during the current year's summit like GUADEC is.  That would make 
> it much easier to plan for budgets, etc. 

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Re: "Boston" Summit 2013?

[James]

On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 1:47 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna  wrote:
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 10:21 AM, James  wrote:
>>
>>
>> I previously mentioned that I'm based in Montreal, and happy to help
>> organize this if people are interested.
>> HTH,
>> James
>>
>>
>
> OK, looks like we have a winner.  Do you have a venue that you can research?
Sure! I'll look into this. Has GNOME decided on Montreal? If so, maybe
someone can get me up to speed on some details, such as capacity and
specific dates. I'm happy to help with this, but I'd rather not be the
sole organizer.

Let me know what is needed!
Cheers,
James

> BTW Columbus Day is "Thanksgiving" in Canada right?
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Re: GNOME Quarterly Reports

[Jared L Jennings]

While writing is not my, bread and butter, I am willing to help. If there is a 
need for someone to generate and post the quarterly reports and also board 
minutes let me know and I will will jump in.

Jared Jennings
jaredljenni...@gmail.com

On Apr 30, 2013, at 10:07 AM, Tim-Philipp Müller  wrote:

> On Mon, 2012-12-31 at 17:24 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
>> Currently I don't plan to send out further calls for quarterly reports
>> (as it would be the case again tomorrow).
> 
> It would be great if the foundation website could be updated to reflect
> this, perhaps mentioning some other places where people can learn more
> about the latest foundation activities and GNOME news.
> 
> Currently http://www.gnome.org/foundation/reports/ gives the impression
> that foundation activity stopped somewhere around late 2011 (latest
> budget is 2010-2011, reports ended late 2011/early 2012, last guadec
> budget is from 2008).
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Re: "Boston" Summit 2013?

[john palmieri]

Just a suggestion, perhaps the next year's location should be bid on and
announced during the current year's summit like GUADEC is.  That would make
it much easier to plan for budgets, etc.

--
J5


On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 8:58 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:

>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 5:10 PM, Andrew Cowie <
> and...@operationaldynamics.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 2013-04-30 at 10:47 -0700, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:
>>
>> > BTW Columbus Day is "Thanksgiving" in Canada right?
>>
>> No, it's Thanksgiving, without the quotation marks. :) We've always
>> wondered why the Americans insist on having it on the wrong day. The end
>> of November? The snow is already flying then!
>>
>>
> Don't look to me, these guys thought the indians were us! ;)
>
> sri
>
>
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>> Sydney
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Re: "Boston" Summit 2013?

[Sriram Ramkrishna]

On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 5:10 PM, Andrew Cowie <
and...@operationaldynamics.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 2013-04-30 at 10:47 -0700, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:
>
> > BTW Columbus Day is "Thanksgiving" in Canada right?
>
> No, it's Thanksgiving, without the quotation marks. :) We've always
> wondered why the Americans insist on having it on the wrong day. The end
> of November? The snow is already flying then!
>
>
Don't look to me, these guys thought the indians were us! ;)

sri


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Re: "Boston" Summit 2013?

[Sriram Ramkrishna]

On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 1:13 PM, Joanmarie Diggs  wrote:

>
>
> It's not that we don't like Portland. Hell, if Portlandia is any
> indication, Portland might be the best city EVER. :) Even the
> inconvenience of people having to take an extra and/or longer flight,
> while not great, is not a show-stopper. To me the show-stopper is
> unbudgeted travel expenses with less than a year's notice.
>
>
We are a quirky bunch of people. :-)  We're almost like Bostonians except
maybe a little more weirder.


> It is my understanding that quite a few usual "Boston Summit" attendees
> are within reasonable driving distance of Boston. And Montreal, while a
> longer drive, is not undoable for this crowd. But at least in the case
> of my company, the 2013 travel budget was set at the end of 2012. And at
> the end of 2012, we had no indication that I would have to fly
> cross-country from Southern New Hampshire to "Boston." ;) ;)
>
>
I've made that drive, it's a good 5-6 hours I believe.  But a really nice
one!  Vermont rocks!


Whether or not we want to rotate "Boston" Summit around the country is
> something for the Foundation membership to decide. If they decide that,
> great. But let's then ensure we have the location selected in time for
> companies and the Foundation to include it in their travel budgets.
>
>
I have no problems honestly.  I'm happy to let someone else do it.  I'll
plan something else at some other time.. although the timing for me was
perfect since I'll be on vacation during most of the planning stages.  But
one day we will have a gnome related conference on the west coast.  Count
on it!

sri

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Re: "Boston" Summit 2013?

[Andrew Cowie]

On Tue, 2013-04-30 at 10:47 -0700, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:

> BTW Columbus Day is "Thanksgiving" in Canada right? 

No, it's Thanksgiving, without the quotation marks. :) We've always
wondered why the Americans insist on having it on the wrong day. The end
of November? The snow is already flying then!

AfC
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Re: "Boston" Summit 2013?

[Joanmarie Diggs]

On 04/30/2013 01:11 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Piñeiro  wrote:
> 
>> On 04/30/2013 06:22 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:
>>> Although working for the venue is appreciated, imho, is irrelevant. If
>> that extra hop means that suddenly every one (or almost every one)
>> interested on assist the summit would need to ask for help (or
>> extra-help) to the travel committee in order to assist, it doesn't
>> matter if we got a venue for free. It would be still really more
>> expensive, and more trip-exhausting.
>>
>>
> Hi Alejandro,
> 
> If most people feel this way then I have no problem letting this go.
> Hopefully, we can find someone to do this in Boston or Montreal.

Were it up to me, that would be my recommendation.

It's not that we don't like Portland. Hell, if Portlandia is any
indication, Portland might be the best city EVER. :) Even the
inconvenience of people having to take an extra and/or longer flight,
while not great, is not a show-stopper. To me the show-stopper is
unbudgeted travel expenses with less than a year's notice.

It is my understanding that quite a few usual "Boston Summit" attendees
are within reasonable driving distance of Boston. And Montreal, while a
longer drive, is not undoable for this crowd. But at least in the case
of my company, the 2013 travel budget was set at the end of 2012. And at
the end of 2012, we had no indication that I would have to fly
cross-country from Southern New Hampshire to "Boston." ;) ;)

Whether or not we want to rotate "Boston" Summit around the country is
something for the Foundation membership to decide. If they decide that,
great. But let's then ensure we have the location selected in time for
companies and the Foundation to include it in their travel budgets.

Take care.
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Re: "Boston" Summit 2013?

[Tristan Van Berkom]

On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 2:21 AM, James  wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Karen Sandler  wrote:
>> On Fri, April 26, 2013 4:51 am, Alberto Ruiz wrote:
>>> I'd love to visit Portland!
>>>
>>> However we might want to take into account that doing it in the west
>>> coast will have an impact on the travel budget since a lot of people
>>> live in Europe and the east coast.
>>
>> I know Sri is working hard to look into organizing this in Portland, but I
>> think there are a number of obstacles. If Portland isn't the right choice
>> for this year, are there folks who want to organize in Montreal?
>
> I previously mentioned that I'm based in Montreal, and happy to help
> organize this if people are interested.
> HTH,
> James

I don't know if I'll be in Montreal around then, but just a suggestion, if
you do organize it in Montreal, it would be great to have it at Concordia,
McGill, or at UQAM, the Universite de Montreal location is so... far from
everything ;-)

Also, I think there are decently priced hotels on Rene-Levesque west,
which is nice and close to Concordia, and also close to the pubs...

Cheers,
-Tristan

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Re: "Boston" Summit 2013?

[Sriram Ramkrishna]

On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 10:21 AM, James  wrote:

>
> I previously mentioned that I'm based in Montreal, and happy to help
> organize this if people are interested.
> HTH,
> James
>
>
>
OK, looks like we have a winner.  Do you have a venue that you can
research?  BTW Columbus Day is "Thanksgiving" in Canada right?
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Re: "Boston" Summit 2013?

[James]

On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Karen Sandler  wrote:
> On Fri, April 26, 2013 4:51 am, Alberto Ruiz wrote:
>> I'd love to visit Portland!
>>
>> However we might want to take into account that doing it in the west
>> coast will have an impact on the travel budget since a lot of people
>> live in Europe and the east coast.
>
> I know Sri is working hard to look into organizing this in Portland, but I
> think there are a number of obstacles. If Portland isn't the right choice
> for this year, are there folks who want to organize in Montreal?

I previously mentioned that I'm based in Montreal, and happy to help
organize this if people are interested.
HTH,
James

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Re: "Boston" Summit 2013?

[Germán Póo-Caamaño]

On Tue, 2013-04-30 at 19:03 +0200, Piñeiro wrote:
> [...]
> What is the point of that long previous paragraph? Sincerely, for me,
> taking into account that we are talking about a small event, just
> starting to move to a different city for the sake of moving is an overkill.

AFAIU, the idea of doing it in different city is because of last
incident in Boston.  It is not for the sake of moving it.

> And as Benjamin opened the can of "Europe is far far away from
> Portland", this is even worse for people living in small cities. In my
> case I assisted the Boston summit twice (2009, 2012). And it was a
> Coruña-Madrid-Boston. In the hypothetical case of repeating this year,
> that extra "hop" would mean Coruña-Madrid-Amsterdam-Portland or
> Coruña-Madrid-Seattle-Boston.
> 
> >
> > But I'm under no illusion that for some that this might be harder to
> > get to.  I'm still working the venue and hopefully I'll have something
> > by next week.
> 
> Although working for the venue is appreciated, imho, is irrelevant.

It is relevant.  Without venue or people organizing the event there is
no event.

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Re: "Boston" Summit 2013?

[Sriram Ramkrishna]

On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Piñeiro  wrote:

> On 04/30/2013 06:22 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:
> >Although working for the venue is appreciated, imho, is irrelevant. If
> that extra hop means that suddenly every one (or almost every one)
> interested on assist the summit would need to ask for help (or
> extra-help) to the travel committee in order to assist, it doesn't
> matter if we got a venue for free. It would be still really more
> expensive, and more trip-exhausting.
>
>
Hi Alejandro,

If most people feel this way then I have no problem letting this go.
Hopefully, we can find someone to do this in Boston or Montreal.


sri


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Re: "Boston" Summit 2013?

[Piñeiro]

On 04/30/2013 06:22 PM, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 6:43 AM, Benjamin Otte  > wrote:
>
> Sriram Ramkrishna  ramkrishna.me >
> writes:
>
> > I agree that is a point worth considering.  Portland is a second
> tier city
> and sometimes takes a extra hop because there are not a lot direct
> flights
> especially from Europe.
>
> That's a nice way to say "Only Amsterdam offers a direct flight".
> Which
> means everyone from Europe will have to pay the big fee for that
> flight
> (~$500 more) or transfer inside the US. Yay.
>
>
> I'm not sure if it will be that much.. but usually a lot of people fly
> into Seattle or San Francisco and then take the flight to Portland. 
> Even Vancouver works.  The flights from Seattle to PDX is only an hour
> or less.

But in any case, that is still one extra flight on the trip.

Again, although several people already mentioned it. One of the main
reasons to have a Boston Summit was their convenience. There was a
really convenient place on a really good connected city. (The only
unconvenient thing is the hotel). So people started to assist the summit
for pure convenience. That is also one of the reasons it was always a
small event, and in several aspects, more informal. We already have the
big event where we choose a different venue every year, the GUADEC.
"Boston" Summit was never (AFAIK) intended to be "another GNOME big
event". As others already mentioned (II), just until some years ago
people started to ask help to the travel committee in order to assist,
and was in really specific cases.

What is the point of that long previous paragraph? Sincerely, for me,
taking into account that we are talking about a small event, just
starting to move to a different city for the sake of moving is an overkill.

And as Benjamin opened the can of "Europe is far far away from
Portland", this is even worse for people living in small cities. In my
case I assisted the Boston summit twice (2009, 2012). And it was a
Coruña-Madrid-Boston. In the hypothetical case of repeating this year,
that extra "hop" would mean Coruña-Madrid-Amsterdam-Portland or
Coruña-Madrid-Seattle-Boston.

>
> But I'm under no illusion that for some that this might be harder to
> get to.  I'm still working the venue and hopefully I'll have something
> by next week.

Although working for the venue is appreciated, imho, is irrelevant. If
that extra hop means that suddenly every one (or almost every one)
interested on assist the summit would need to ask for help (or
extra-help) to the travel committee in order to assist, it doesn't
matter if we got a venue for free. It would be still really more
expensive, and more trip-exhausting.

BR

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Re: "Boston" Summit 2013?

[Sriram Ramkrishna]

On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 6:43 AM, Benjamin Otte  wrote:

> Sriram Ramkrishna  ramkrishna.me> writes:
>
> > I agree that is a point worth considering.  Portland is a second tier
> city
> and sometimes takes a extra hop because there are not a lot direct flights
> especially from Europe.
>
> That's a nice way to say "Only Amsterdam offers a direct flight". Which
> means everyone from Europe will have to pay the big fee for that flight
> (~$500 more) or transfer inside the US. Yay.
>
>
I'm not sure if it will be that much.. but usually a lot of people fly into
Seattle or San Francisco and then take the flight to Portland.  Even
Vancouver works.  The flights from Seattle to PDX is only an hour or less.

But I'm under no illusion that for some that this might be harder to get
to.  I'm still working the venue and hopefully I'll have something by next
week.

sri


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Re: GNOME Quarterly Reports

[Tim-Philipp Müller]

On Mon, 2012-12-31 at 17:24 +0100, Andre Klapper wrote:

Hi,

> Currently I don't plan to send out further calls for quarterly reports
> (as it would be the case again tomorrow).

It would be great if the foundation website could be updated to reflect
this, perhaps mentioning some other places where people can learn more
about the latest foundation activities and GNOME news.

Currently http://www.gnome.org/foundation/reports/ gives the impression
that foundation activity stopped somewhere around late 2011 (latest
budget is 2010-2011, reports ended late 2011/early 2012, last guadec
budget is from 2008).

Cheers
 -Tim


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Re: "Boston" Summit 2013?

[Karen Sandler]

On Fri, April 26, 2013 4:51 am, Alberto Ruiz wrote:
> I'd love to visit Portland!
>
> However we might want to take into account that doing it in the west
> coast will have an impact on the travel budget since a lot of people
> live in Europe and the east coast.

I know Sri is working hard to look into organizing this in Portland, but I
think there are a number of obstacles. If Portland isn't the right choice
for this year, are there folks who want to organize in Montreal?

karen

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Re: New service: Jabber.gnome.org

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Le mardi 30 avril 2013, à 12:03 +0200, Andrea Veri a écrit :
> I did successfully export Daniel's roster and mailed it to him. Did the
> same for you, that's all I can see on the database for the entry 'vuntz'.
> As a side note if any old member had an huge number of registered contacts,
> I can try to retrieve them from the old database if that's really needed.
> 
> Contact me on IRC if you need further assistance.

Thanks a lot for your help (and doing that so fast!)

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Re: New service: Jabber.gnome.org

[Andrea Veri]

I did successfully export Daniel's roster and mailed it to him. Did the
same for you, that's all I can see on the database for the entry 'vuntz'.
As a side note if any old member had an huge number of registered contacts,
I can try to retrieve them from the old database if that's really needed.

Contact me on IRC if you need further assistance.


2013/4/30 Vincent Untz 

> Hi,
>
> Le lundi 29 avril 2013, à 13:21 +0200, Andrea Veri a écrit :
> > Hello Foundation members,
> >
> > the new Jabber istance I promised I while back is ready to go. Some
> details
> > about it:
>
> Thanks for your work on this!
>
> > 1. Which software are we using?
> >
> > We're currently using Prosody [1].
> >
> > 2. How JIDs will look like?
> >
> > JIDs will look this way: j...@jabber.gnome.org (this to prevent any
> > confusion between the mail alias @gnome.org and the JID used for the
> > jabberd service.
>
> I assume this means that XMPP subscriptions that were existing in the
> old server will be lost with the new server. Is it possible to get an
> export of the old subscriptions?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Vincent
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Andrea

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