Re: Moving foundation-list to discourse?

[Tobias Mueller]

Hi,

On Fri, 2019-10-04 at 18:35 -0700, philip.chime...@gmail.com wrote:
> I don't find it the best policy to optimize for the convenience of
> non-members who want to send insulting rants to foundation-list
Sure. But I don't think we're optimising for those. In fact, the number
of insulting rants is surprisingly low. Arguably lower than the number
of posts that were banned for no obvious reason.

As you can see, people have different opinions on what they feel is
offending. And I'd rather see the occasional troll posting than banning
one legitimate mail.

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Re: Moving foundation-list to discourse?

[Tobias Mueller]

Hi,

On Thu, 2019-10-03 at 11:00 -0500, meg ford via foundation-list wrote:
> I do need to send emails to foundation list on
> behalf of the Travel Committee though and dealing with moderation as
> someone who isn’t a list member could be time consuming.
It's not so much, esp. since a whitelist could be set up.

And you could (and should) configure your Email setup to filter what you
want or not want to see.

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Re: Moving foundation-list to discourse?

[Tobias Mueller]

Hi,

On Tue, 2019-08-13 at 18:28 +, Olav Vitters wrote:
> It's
> even possible to make Discourse behave like an mailing list.
I found the discourse mailing list mode to be inferior to a mailing
list.

For example, code posted on the Web looks much different than what gets
sent via email, cf. https://ibb.co/g3nHtB5. I don't think it's possible
to discuss code like that.
Another issue I have is that the "mailing list mode" effectively
subscribes you to every "mailing list" rather than the one you were
interested in.
I appreciate that the "guide to discourse with email" posted at 
https://discourse.gnome.org/t/interacting-with-discourse-via-email/46
mentions that the mailing list mode is "hardcore", but the alternatives are 
lacking.  That is, "watching" a topic doesn't send you an email if you have 
read (or written) something on the Web interface. At least that didn't work for 
me.
I can now mute topics, but then I get surprised as soon as new mailing
lists are being created on the discourse platform.

Or have I just not found the right buttons to click?


Also, I wonder what the expected benefits of blocking replies to a
thread that hasn't received a message for 14 days are. Or is that just
default configuration that hasn't been changed?

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Re: Board of Directors Elections 2019 - Candidacy - Benjamin Berg

[Tobias Mueller]

Hi Philip and the other candidates,

On Thu, 2019-06-06 at 11:20 -0700, Philip Chimento via foundation-list
wrote:
> If elected to the board, how would you help to build trust and
> collaborative working relationships among the directors, and encourage
> healthy debate?
I think this is a great question for all the candidates and I would be
delighted to read statements of candidates who want to position
themselves.

Having worked with Benjamin on several occasions, the biggest one being
GUADEC 2016, I know that maintaining a collaborative working
relationship and healthy debate are not a problem.

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Re: Minutes of the board meeting of April 29, 2019

[Tobias Mueller]

Hi Carlos, Rob,

thanks for the fantastic answers :)


You've written:

On Wed, 2019-05-22 at 14:18 +0200, Carlos Soriano wrote:
> While my duty if I want to continue this work is to apply again and
> convince the membership to vote for me, this have a non-negligible
> overhead. In my case, the uncertainty is making me focusing more on
> preparing for a possible full hand off in less than a month than on
> keep working on it. This is not healthy, and this doesn't work well. 
First of all: I agree.

But: I think we'd be better off if we can establish that your work will
still be valuable even if you are not a director (any more).
(And for completeness sake: the "you" is the general "you", not second
person singular.)

I think we'd rather want to enable members to do valuable work for the
Foundation than to limit ourselves to letting Directors do it.  Then,
your premise "if I want to continue this work" does not hold, because
you could just do the work.  My memory is fading, but I think there was
a time where Board wanted to be more like facilitators than executives.

As an aside: The scenario that you described is that you are running
again, present your work to the membership as part of your platform and
tell them that they should vote for you in order for you to get that job
done.  Then the membership does not give you their vote.
Now considering the proposal at hand, it seems to enforce the director
being in power against the will of the membership.  That seems like a
change the members should not like.


> At the end of the day is a matter of balance, and between the minimum
> term of 1 year and the other extreme of no elections, we can find a
> middle ground that works better with the new responsibilities and kind
> of work the board needs to do nowadays.
yeah, absolutely. I guess we're in the process of finding out :)

> 
> It worth to mention that it's easier for any any person to commit to
> just one year
Yes!
So I don't understand the logic that prolonging the term makes it easier
for candidates to step up.


> But this is not what we have found good for the foundation and the
> directors going forward, so we believe a longer commitment will most
> probably be what's needed.
But considering your statement above this paragraph, I don't understand
how making it harder for candidates to step up is "most probably what's
needed".

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Re: Announcing Board of Directors Elections 2019: revamped timeline

[Tobias Mueller]

Hi,

On Mon, 2019-05-27 at 07:48 -0500, mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote:
> On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 7:12 AM, Andrea Veri  wrote:
> > I didn't express myself clearly enough: I really meant we haven't
> > received enough candidacies for the elections and the voting phase
> > to
> > begin, thus the need to extend the timelines. We currently collected
> > a
> > total of 5 candidates, 2 to go for the elections to actually start:
> 
> This seems like case in point for why we should switch to two-year 
> terms! Hopefully this will be the final election in which we elect 
> seven directors all at the same time.
I think it's not a very good case for a longer term, though.
Just a few mails earlier we have seen an email in which a candidate
wondered whether they could make enough time available.
With a longer term that problem gets worse, not better.

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Re: Minutes of the board meeting of April 29, 2019

[Tobias Mueller]

Hi,

On Tue, 2019-05-21 at 23:06 -0700, Philip Chimento via foundation-list
wrote:
>* However, if we are still planning to change the length of the
> board terms, we would need to do so before announcing the elections.
>* Neil: We are talking to lawyers at the moment; we may need to
> change the bylaws to increase the board term length, so it may not be
> possible for this election.
>  * Carlos: If the term is already fixed, do we have any power to
> adjust it for any date changes in the first place?
>* Rosanna: The term is strict.
>  * Allan: The bylaws say that the term is set at the time of
> elections.
>* Neil: You could indeed set the term of this election to be 2
> years, but there is no way under the current bylaws to move to split-
> term elections where half the board are elected for 2 years every
> year. if we announced that the coming election was for a 2-year term, 
> then the vote after that would be in 2 years from now. We could have
> another 1-year term, and have that year to adjust the bylaws.

I guess these plans are news to most members.

I think that the proposed change is a strict subset of what is possible
today and that the cost associated with that change do not outweigh the
benefits.

Currently, a candidate can simply run for a consecutive term. They can
even make it part of their platform that they intend to serve for more
than one term or that they have served a term already. The electorate
can then decide whether they like it or whether they'd rather see change
(maybe to overcome perceived bad habits or discontinuing a cabal).

Convincing the electorate to live with a candidate for longer than a
year is much more appealing to me than mandating that choice.
I can see how mandating can be argued into being an advantage, due
to the knowledge not getting lost and the consistency it provides. I 
appreciate those arguments and they have some merit.
But my counter argument is that the electorate should be free to choose
whether they see it the same way. With the change of term lengths, you
are forcing the electorate to think the same way as you do. And again,
if a candidate thinks continuity and preserving knowledge is important,
I'd rather see the candidate convincing the electorate rather than
forcing that onto them.

I appreciate that running, re-running, or even having elections incurs
some cost. Those need to be balanced against the sovereignty of the
electorate.  As in, it'd be super convenient for the Board to not have
elections at all and pick new directors at their discretion. But that'd
remove all the power from the electorate.  As such, any increase of the
length of the term can be seen as undermining the sovereignty of the
electorate and the intention should be justified.

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Re: Travel Sponsorship Delays and Next Steps

[Tobias Mueller]

Hi

On Wed, 2018-06-13 at 19:22 +0100, Neil McGovern wrote:
> Yup, when combined with Recital 23.
yeah, I can see how you can make that argument. I think it's far fetched
and against the spirit of the GDPR, though.  I hope the Board got legal
advice or has at least asked any of the DPAs before having let
operations block on this.  Also because there is a lot of noise on the
Internet these days as to what a data controller's obligations are and
how to fulfil them.

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Re: Travel Sponsorship Delays and Next Steps

[Tobias Mueller]

Hi,

On Fri, 2018-06-08 at 08:07 +0200, Didier Roche wrote:
> Neil and the Travel Committee are working hard in changing the
> current 
> process of handling requests to comply to GDPR.
I applaud the efforts, but what makes you think you fall under the
regulations of the GDPR?

I believe to have some intermediary level knowledge of the GDPR and how
to assess whether anything is in need of compliance and I'd be
interested in learning why you think the Foundation needs to comply.


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Re: Minutes of the Foundation Board, 22nd May

[Tobias Mueller]

Hi,

On Wed, 2018-05-23 at 12:29 +0100, Allan Day wrote:
>  * Request for account deletion in GitLab for a blocked user (Carlos)
>   * Carlos sent an email to board-list with details of this
>   * Carlos is the only GitLab admin. He recently blocked a user for
> inappropriate behaviour.
Thanks for keeping our environment a little sane.
Out of curiosity: Which bug is this about?

>   * We have a prescedent that we don't delete posts that are stored on
> GNOME servers.
Sure. But we also have precedent for removing mails from archives ;-)
And we do block access to certain bugzilla comments.

FTR: I'm generally not a big fan of filtering information, but I
appreciate that it's better in some cases to not publicly show certain
things.

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Re: Proposal for an Events Code of Conduct and Policy Referendum

[Tobias Mueller]

Hi,

On Mon, 2018-04-30 at 15:48 +0100, Allan Day wrote:
> The big picture here is that the working group went to great effort to
> make sure that everyone was able to participate, and that we had a
But it sounds like it was made sure that "everyone" was having the same
opinion rather than allowing dissent.

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Re: Proposal for an Events Code of Conduct and Policy Referendum

[Tobias Mueller]

Hi,

On Sat, 2018-04-21 at 13:35 +0200, Benjamin Berg wrote:
> I do not think that this is just a technicality that can be taken
> lightly. Should the Board continue to discuss the proposal as is, it
> would legitimise the misconduct of some CoC WG members.
> 
Based on what has been exchanged here in public, I feel the same way.


> In contrast, my proposal for an open referendum allows the draft to be
> resubmitted therefore avoiding the above taints.
Yes.  It seems very desirable to me. Are there reasons against adopting
a process that sparks confidence and trust in the result?

I can image that it incurs much higher overhead than a working group
meeting secretly and just throwing a document over the wall.
That overhead might actually be a barrier for adopting any kind of CoC.
But in case it has gone through the process you described, the support
of the foundation can more easily be asserted.  From that point of view,
it's very much desirable to follow a process similar to what you've
outlined.  You might even consider requiring a minimum level of
participation or a quorum of, say, 50% of the membership in order to
successfully adopt the rights and restrictions set forth in such a
document.

Am I right in assuming that you would not pursue a referendum if the
board does not further decide on the current draft?


> > As per the section 7.10 of the Bylaws of the GNOME Foundation [1],
> it
> > is your right as a member to propose a referendum if you can gather
> > support from at least 10% of the membership.
> 
> Thanks for the short summary of the how a Referendum works when
> initiated by a community member.
There should not be a difference.

You have another interesting mechanism at your disposal that we used in
2012: You can ask for amendment of the bylaws to include provisions that
you desire, cf. Article XVII:
https://people.gnome.org/~tobiasmue/bylaws2012/bylaws.html#amendments

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Re: Minutes of the Foundation Board, 13th March

[Tobias Mueller]

Hi,

On Wed, 2018-03-14 at 10:00 +, Allan Day wrote:
>  * Moderation of public mailing lists (Carlos)
>   * There have been some complaints that mailing lists aren't being
> properly moderated - primarily unpleasant/toxic emails being ignored
What kind of moderation would have been considered to be "proper"?

>   * There's no escalation process - what can people do if they feel
> they've been mistreated?
On a public mailing list, you mean?  I see multiple options. Depending
on what it means for someone to *feel* mistreated.  And then it's hard
to argue about someone's feelings.

>* Is it the moderator's role to police behaviour, or is it more of
> an admin role?
I see two separate roles there. One is the list owner or someone who
feels responsible for having the mailing list in first place. And then I
see the moderator to mostly reject SPAM.  I have that latter role for a
few dozen mailing lists and I couldn't do policing of people, because
that would mean that I'd have to actively read all these lists. Neither
do I think that it's a smart move to stop someone being stupid in
public.

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Re: CoC Enforcement Training Interest

[Tobias Mueller]

Hi.

On Di, 2017-10-03 at 15:50 -0700, Nuritzi Sanchez wrote:
> Rosanna and I are thinking of participating in a Code of Conduct (CoC) 
> enforcement workshop run by Sarah Sharp
I may be a bit naïve, but "enforcing" sounds like you just throw people
out if they don't follow your house rules.

Is there any GNOME Foundation money involved?

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public money public code - supporting current FSFE campain

[Tobias Mueller]

Hi.

The FSFE has launched the following campaign: https://publiccode.eu/

I strongly believe that it's in GNOME's interest to co-sign the
following open letter. I've prepared a patch to have GNOME listed as
supporter. I intend to send the patch in a day or so. If you think we
shouldn't be supporting this effort, please speak up.


Open Letter

Publicly funded software has to be Free and Open Source Software. While
there are plenty of good reasons for this, many politicians don’t know
about them yet.

Free Software gives everybody the right to use, study, share and
improve software. This right helps support other fundamental freedoms
like freedom of speech, press and privacy.

This is where you can help! Sign the open letter to give our message
more weight. 6505 people and 38 organisations have already signed. We
will hand over the letter and signatures to your representatives and
make sure that they understand that: Public Money? Public Code!

Public Money? Public Code!

Digital services offered and used by our public administrations are
the critical infrastructure of 21st century democratic nations. In
order to establish trustworthy systems, public bodies must ensure they
have full control over the software and the computer systems at the
core of our state digital infrastructure. However, right now, this is
rarely the case due to restrictive software licences that:

Forbid sharing and exchanging publicly funded code. This
prevents cooperation between public administrations and hinders further
development.
Support monopolies by hindering competition. As a result, many
administrations become dependent on a handful of companies.
Pose a threat to the security of our digital infrastructure by
forbidding access to the source code. This makes fixing backdoors and
security holes extremely difficult, if not completely impossible.

We need software that fosters the sharing of good ideas and
solutions. Like this we will be able to improve IT services for people
all over Europe. We need software that guarantees freedom of choice,
access, and competition. We need software that helps public
administrations regain full control of their critical digital
infrastructure, allowing them to become and remain independent from a
handful of companies. That is why we call our representatives to
support Free and Open Source Software in public administrations,
because:

Free and Open Source Software is a modern public good that
allows everybody to freely use, study, share and improve applications
we use on a daily basis.
Free and Open Source Software licences provide safeguards
against being locked in to services from specific companies that use
restrictive licences to hinder competition.
Free and Open Source Software ensures that the source code is
accessible so that backdoors and security holes can be fixed without
depending on one service provider.

Public bodies are financed through taxes. They must make sure they
spend funds in the most efficient way possible. If it is public money,
it should be public code as well!

That is why we, the undersigned, call our representatives to:

“Implement legislation requiring that publicly financed software
developed for public sector must be made publicly available under a
Free and Open Source Software licence.”



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Detecting non-free JavaScript (was: GNOME 3.26 Release Parties)

[Tobias Mueller]

hey hey!

On Fr, 2017-09-15 at 14:12 -0700, Christian Hergert wrote:
> It's difficult and time-consuming to audit a code-base received via a 
> web-browser. It can also very from client to client. Do you have a tool 
> that can tell us if a website contains non-free JavaScript? Perhaps a 
> browser plugin?
There is https://www.gnu.org/software/librejs/

GNU LibreJS aims to address the JavaScript problem described in
Richard Stallman's article The JavaScript Trap. LibreJS is a free
add-on for GNU IceCat and other Mozilla-based browsers. It blocks
nonfree nontrivial JavaScript while allowing JavaScript that is free
and/or trivial.
Downloading LibreJS

In GNU IceCat or any Mozilla browser, you can install LibreJS by
clicking on this link and following the subsequent instructions:
gnu_librejs-6.0.13-fx.xpi (601K). 

The git log indicates activity:
http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/librejs.git/log/
so that it might work with recent browsers.


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Re: Minutes of the Board meeting of June, 6th, 2017

[Tobias Mueller]

Hi.

On Fr, 2017-06-16 at 10:47 +0100, Allan wrote:
> It would 
> be good to try and figure out how we can institute the arrangement 
> proposed by the board for future years, though. The difficulty is that 
> we often don't know exactly when the AGM is going to happen, so we 
> can't fix an exact term period for incoming board members.
Hence my suggestion for making a 13 months term.
Then the new board will come in August which makes it more likely to be
after GUADEC.

I don't think it's necessary to know the exact time of GUADEC in
advance.  All is needed is the new directors delegating their vote
until the handover. That's the way it used to work and I think it's
quite good.

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Re: Minutes of the Board meeting of June, 6th, 2017

[Tobias Mueller]

Hi.

On Mi, 2017-06-14 at 14:06 +0100, Allan Day wrote:
> There are two issues here: the practicalities of transitioning between
> boards, and what we are required to do by the bylaws.
Sure.  And I'd be surprised if the new board members wouldn't see it
similarly.
But the way the minutes are written makes it sound less distinct and
more like that the old board can decide when the new board starts
coming into power.

> As for the second issue, as far as I can see, the bylaws don't say
> exactly when new board members should take office. (Let me know if
> I've missed something.)
The bylaws say for how long the directors shall hold office, i.e. they
are elected for a certain term.  The duration of the term of the
current board is one year (unless, e.g. no new board has been elected,
or it had been decided to make the term longer; see below).  The
current term started July 2016. It thus ends at the end of June 2017.

>  However, there are statements which suggest
> that the AGM is the time. For example, clause 8.2.1 states: "The
> Directors shall fix their number at an annual meeting."
This is not related as it's about changing the number of directors.


> Looking at this, it seems that we haven't been as clear as we should
> be regarding the length of each term.
Because there is no need to. The provision you cited¹ defines the term
to be one year. Unless it's been decided otherwise for an upcoming
election. As that was not the case, the term is indeed one year.
1: 
https://people.gnome.org/~tobiasmue/bylaws2012/bylaws.html#election-and-term-of-office-of-directors

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Re: Minutes of the Board meeting of June, 6th, 2017

[Tobias Mueller]

Hi.

On Di, 2017-06-13 at 11:48 -0700, Cosimo Cecchi wrote:
>  * Timeline for new board transition
>   * Results will be announced this coming Monday 12th, then confirmed next 
> Monday 19th
>   * The new board will be in effect after that,
Strictly speaking the new board will have voting power from 1st of
July. The last Board came into power on 2016-07-01 and the term is one
year.
Now, it's probably good practise to enable the old board to wrap up
their business and do the hand over, i.e. letting them vote on the new
board's behalf until the handover is done. But it's at the new board
member's discretion.

>  and until the GUADEC meeting both groups of officers can attend meetings and 
> calls
>   * When do we start inviting incoming board members to the calls?
>    * Historically we did the handover at GUADEC, but sounds helpful to have a 
> time during which board members overlap
>    * The new officers do take over at the AGM according to the bylaws,
I could not find that in the bylaws.

>  so that sounds like a reasonable time for the handover
>   * First meeting with new board on call: Tuesday June 20th, but no voting 
> powers until the in-person meeting at GUADEC, where new officers are elected
Being able to vote and being an officer is not related.

>    * The meetings will be recommended to attend for the newly-elected 
> members, but we will still hold meetings according to the schedule of the 
> present board
This sounds clever, but ultimately, the newly elected board has all
rights as of first of July.

In the past I suggested that the term should be made 13 months (once),
because GUADEC tends to be later in the year than it used to. That
would increase the chances of the old Board doing handover at GUADEC
before the newly elected Board comes into power.  To make the term one
month longer, the Board simply needs to make a decision for the
upcoming elections.

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Re: GNOME Board of Directors Foundation Elections 2017 - Candidates

[Tobias Mueller]

Hi.

On So, 2017-05-28 at 16:58 +, Florian Müllner wrote:
> a candidate can still miss the required vote threshold
FWIW: that threshold is 1.

If a candidate receives one direct vote, they should be elected.
I would go as far and argue that if a candidate receives one indirect
vote, they should be elected.

The OpenSTV GUI doesn't even allow an election with the number of
candidate equalling the number of available seats.  We will probably
add a dummy candidate to make it work the way we know it.

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Re: Minutes of the Board Meeting of April, 4th, 2016

[Tobias Mueller]

Hi.

On Do, 2016-04-07 at 14:25 +0200, Andrea Veri wrote:
>  * Bitcoins donations data
>   * Tobi is the only person with access to the Bitcoin donations data
This is not true.  In fact, I don't have access to the Bitpay account.

>   * 2016-02-23, ACTION: Alexandre to get in touch with him about this
He has. A while ago.

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Re: Minutes of the Board Meeting of January, 19th, 2016

[Tobias Mueller]

hi.

On Do, 2016-02-18 at 23:30 +0100, Alexandre Franke wrote:
> In addition to that, the logo and wordmark are not only protected by
> trademark, but also by copyright
but it's freely licensed so copyright shouldn't matter unless I'm
missing something.

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Re: Minutes of the Board Meeting of January, 19th, 2016

[Tobias Mueller]

Hi!

On So, 2016-01-24 at 16:33 +0100, Andrea Veri wrote:
>  * Unixstickers
>   * They're selling GNOME branded items
>   * No trademark licence agreement has ever been signed with them
Are they offering anything related to computers under the name "GNOME"?
So far I only see stickers and pins:
https://www.unixstickers.com/tag/gnome

Are we having trademarks outside the realms of "Downloadable computer
software tools and libraries used for the development of other software
applications; downloadable computer software development tools;
downloadable computer software for creating and managing a computer
desktop; downloadable computer software for use as a graphical user
interface; downloadable computer software for word processing, database
management, and use as a spreadsheet; Computer software development;
computer software design; computer programming for others; technical
consulting services in the field of computer software; licensing of
intellectual property." ?

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Re: Friend of GNOME annual subscription

[Tobias Mueller]

On Mi, 2016-02-03 at 11:07 +, Pascal Terjan wrote:
> When I tried to do so, it no longer seems possible to get the annual
> one.
Right. I think it hasn't been at least since we migrated to the
Wordpress.

I remember having had discussions about it, but I don't really remember
the arguments exchanged. I can imagine that the complexity of providing
a UI for annual payment was considered to be too much.  But the code is
here: .  Feel free to send patches.

Cheers,
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Re: [Builder] Developer experience (DX) hackfest 2016

[Tobias Mueller]

Hi!

On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 07:31:19PM +0100, Olav Vitters wrote:
> Is there an existing (hosted) solution alternative to hangouts? Pretty
> much as simple as: "go to this URL"?
I know talky.io, appear.in, opentokrtc.com, appr.tc,
meetme, japkin, and others.

I think all of them are not Free Software though.
So essentially Skype in a Web browser.

Firefox Hello is probably the freest implementation.
I haven't used it, though.

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Re: Affiliation change and stepping down

[Tobias Mueller]

Hi.

On Tue, Nov 03, 2015 at 12:30:24PM +0100, Andreas Nilsson wrote:
> If I recall correctly, it's not a rule for the board to pick someone 
> based on election results.
That's true and false.

It's true in the sense that the bylaws do not govern change of affiliation
after the election results have been obtained.

It's false in that there is a rule for following the results when more
than 40% of the directors are of one company 
.

Now that can find yourself on either side of the fence, as to whether
you think that rule applies.

In any case you can ask yourself what *should* be done.
And I think that if you have the option of either following the interests of
your electorate or deciding for yourself, that following the electorate is
simply of better style.

Cheers,
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Re: Affiliation change and stepping down

[Tobias Mueller]

Hi.

On Mo, 2015-10-05 at 11:07 -0400, Ekaterina Gerasimova wrote:
> On 5 October 2015 at 10:59, Tobias Mueller <mue...@cryptobitch.de>
> wrote:
> > Does the Board intend to follow a different strategy than to follow
> > the membership's opinion expressed in the election results
> > <https://vote.gnome.org/results.php?election_id=23>?
> The board is considering a number of candidates and is in the process
> of contacting them.
I take that as a "yes" to the question asked "Does the Board intend to
follow a different strategy than to follow the membership's opinion
expressed in the election results".
Please correct me if I'm wrong, there.

I'm interested, and I suppose the membership, too, in learning what
strategy the Board thinks serves the membership best.

Cheers,
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Re: Affiliation change and stepping down

[Tobias Mueller]

Hi!

On Sun, Oct 04, 2015 at 10:16:29PM -0400, Christian Hergert wrote:
> As of Oct 5th, I will be a RedHat employee.
Congratulations!  I hope you'll be able to continue your work on
making GNOME development a refreshing experience.

> The board was notified a couple of weeks ago and is in the process of 
> replacing my seat.
Does the Board intend to follow a different strategy than to follow the 
membership's
opinion expressed in the election results 
?

It appears to me that the first runner-up (i.e. me) missed 0.7 votes in order to
get elected. With about 16 votes in total, that's about 60% more votes than the
next runner-up received (about 10 votes in total).  I consider that a strong 
statement.

Cheers,
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Re: GNOME Foundation AGM 2015

[Tobias Mueller]

Hi everyone.

Just a reminder about the AGM.  It'll be this

Saturday, 2015-08-08, at 15:45 Swedish time.


On Thu, Jul 09, 2015 at 03:28:01PM +0100, Allan Day wrote:
 The meeting will include reports from each of GNOME's teams
If your team wants to present anything, please let me know.
You have up to five minutes.

If you're intending to have slides¹, please send them
to me tobias...@gnome.org until

Friday, 2015-08-07, 23:59 Swedish time.

Also please indicate who is going to present on behalf of your team.

Cheers,
  Tobi

1:  a common format would be good so that we can combine them into one deck.
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Re: Minutes of the Board meeting of July, 07th, 2015

[Tobias Mueller]

Hi,

On Mi, 2015-07-22 at 00:45 +0200, Alexandre Franke wrote:
   * Tobi to continue pursuing the fund collection in Europe
 
 Now that we have WHS, what's left to do?
Reg. that particular action item:  Nothing.  It should have been
removed.

In the future, we will need to find ways to efficiently work together
when it comes to getting a balance, requesting funds, or obtaining
donation certificates.


Cheers,
  Tobi

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Privacy of information sent to the Travel Committee (was: GNOME.Asia Summit 2015 Travel Subsidy application is Open)

[Tobias Mueller]

Hi!

On Mi, 2015-04-01 at 15:30 +0800, Emily Chen wrote:
 Some extra comments:
 
 * Any information you send to the Travel Committee will be private.
 
It has come to my attention that anyone can read information I trusted
the travel-committee with, because it appears to reside on a publicly
available Google Drive¹.  So my private information, like my bank
information or my address, can not only seen by Google, but also pretty
much by anybody else.  And I assume I am correct by thinking that not
only my own private information, but also that of all others who have
given their information to the travel-committee for requesting subsidy
for GNOME.Asia Summit 2015 are exposed in that way.  I have no information
reg. the current GUADEC requests.

I am still torn of how much of an issue it really is, given that mails
sent to the travel-committee land in many GMail inboxes anyway.  So the
publicly available link might actually not compromise much of my privacy.
But I feel like we should at least know about that level of exposure,
as I wouldn't describe that as the information being private.

I would also feel a little better if you not sent things like filled
forms or receipts to Google.
I suggest to either encrypt the documents before uploading them or to
use the GNOME Wiki for storing them.

Cheers,
  Tobi


1: https://muelli.cryptobitch.de/tmp/gdoc.png

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Re: Question on community to the candidates.

[Tobias Mueller]

Hi.

On Mo, 2015-05-25 at 21:16 -0700, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:
 It is my impression (and I state impression because I am providing no
 data) that GNOME has more reliance on people paid to work on GNOME
 than community.
This is also my impression.  In addition to what others have noted, I
think this goes along with GNOME going more professional.

I think that it would be better if we had more non-professional
contributors, but more in the sense that we always want and need more
contributors.

In order to achieve that I think we're doing what we can, e.g. be
present at events like FOSDEM, have a good story for new contributors,
enabling people to collaborate in person.

Cheers,
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Re: code of conduct question for Board candidates

[Tobias Mueller]

Hi!

On Sa, 2015-05-23 at 11:41 -0400, Marina Zhurakhinskaya wrote:
 What do you think about adopting a detailed code of conduct, similar
 to the one used for GUADEC 2014 [3], for all GNOME events and creating
 a similarly detailed code of conduct for the GNOME community?
It's a complicated subject, but I echo pretty much was Alexandre said.

I appreciate that we want to make people feel welcome and safe at our
events.  And I support that goal.  I'm not convinced a detailed list of
offenses, such as the GUADEC 2014 one, achieves that goal, though.

Cheers,
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Re: Questions for candidates

[Tobias Mueller]

Hi.

On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 07:53:42AM -0400, Richard Stallman wrote:
 I'd like to ask the candidates, how do you think GNOME should
 contribute more to the advance of free software and users' freedom in
 general (in addition to being useful free software).
As I've stated already, I think GNOME is in a very good position to not only
guarantee the users' computational freedoms, but also their freedoms to use 
their computers in a secure manner.  I think that GNOME should build a 
story around how Free Software is a prerequisite for being able to trust
your software and that GNOME tries to bring safe and secure computing to 
everyone.  While we have few resources to work on that, we need some people to 
actually execute some strategies.  I think we should work on that.

Cheers,
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Re: Question to candidates: Best use of Trademark Fundraiser money?

[Tobias Mueller]

Hi!

On So, 2015-05-24 at 19:23 +0200, Andreas Nilsson wrote:
 What, in your mind, is the best use of these funds now? Kept as a War 
 Chest [2] or spent on something specific?
I don't have a particular idea for those funds (as opposed to the funds
earmarked for Security and Privacy), so I am open to ideas.  But we must
stick to what we promised to our donors: If we are able to defend the
mark without spending this amount, we will use the remaining funds to
bolster and improve GNOME.

Cheers,
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Re: Question to GNOME Foundation Board candidates

[Tobias Mueller]

Heya! :-)

On Di, 2015-05-19 at 08:41 +0800, Max wrote:
 1)  How many hours per week do you expect you will be able to dedicate
 to working on the board on a regular basis?
Difficult question as I have just started a new job which makes things a
bit more unpredictable.  It will be better than the last few weeks
though.  A conservative expectation ranges between four to eight hours.


 2)  What's your plan and view with GNOME in Asia?
I have been on the organising committee for the last few years. I think
Asia provides vast amounts of potential Free Software and GNOME users
and it would be good if we can leverage that potential.  We can debate
whether the current GUADEC-esque format, by which I mean going to a
different country every year, is the best we can do, though.

Cheers,
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Re: foundation application..

[Tobias Mueller]

On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 11:33:19AM +0100, Alexandre Franke wrote:
 On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 12:19 AM, Luciana Fujii luci...@fujii.eti.br wrote:
  - What is the impact of having people joining the Foundation and
  vanishing later?
 
 They gain voting ability when they shouldn't. The board should be
 elected by people who are involved with the community. Members of the
 foundation should be members of the community.
Absolutely correct.

  why bother with special ruling this and risking potential problems?
 
 The membership can correct me if I'm wrong, but one thing that's not
 been said so far is that the N months before accepting a member is
 not really special to interns.
Also correct.

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Re: Privacy campaign funds

[Tobias Mueller]

Heya.

On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 08:28:58PM +, Magdalen Berns wrote:
 This seems like a nice idea. Why was it rejected?
The best argument I remember was that interns wouldn't produce
as high quality results as, for example, calling for bids.

But as it has been noted, I shouldn't have said rejected.
Sorry for the wrong term.
Instead, the idea has not been pursued.

Cheers,
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Re: Privacy campaign funds

[Tobias Mueller]

Hi.

On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 04:40:45PM -0600, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
 A while back we ran a $20K privacy campaign. A while later there was a 
 discussion about what to do with the funds. Did we ever decide what to 
 do with these?
Nope.
I proposed to fund interns to work on security and privacy related projects
but the idea was rejected.
I still think that funding two interns, combined with a hackfest, is a good
(i.e. effective and efficient) way to spend the money.

Cheers,
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Re: foundation application..

[Tobias Mueller]

Hi.

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 12:52:32PM +, Magdalen Berns wrote:
 This is not a complicated process, it is fairly clear and transparent
 (especially when compared with the alternative). What is the problem with
 using It?
There is none.

 At the moment we are talking about whether it is justifiable to tell all
 successful interns that they are not eligible for membership
We're not.

Problem solved. Next.

Cheers,
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Re: foundation application..

[Tobias Mueller]

Hi.

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 07:55:05AM -0600, meg ford wrote:
 On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 7:44 AM, Tobias Mueller mue...@cryptobitch.de
 wrote:
 
  I don't read all successful interns are not eligible for membership
  there which is what you claimed.
 
 
 This is not what we were discussing in the thread.
I was under the impression that Magdalen is.  She claimed that we're telling 
all succesful interns that they's not eligible.

 We were discussing the fact (as stated in the email Magdalen quoted) that 
 interns are not eligible for Foundation membership for six months after their 
 internship has ended. Are you saying that this waiting period does not exist, 
 or is not taken into account when the applications of former interns are 
 reviewed?
There is no general answer.  Applications are handled on a case-by-case basis.
The number of objections to the decision of the membership committee I know of 
is exactly 0.
Of course, that number is biased towards the lower end as people might not
have applied in first case.  And it's hard to say how many people have not 
applied.

We're quite transparent (that doesn't mean that there is no room for 
improvement, though).  We have a list of approved 
applicants here: https://wiki.gnome.org/MembershipCommittee/ApprovedMembers
With the RT number you can find the relevant application and all its email, 
because it is publicly archived.  Given that some of you say they don't know 
what contributions will give you a membership, I guess we need to make those 
resources of information better known.

 It would be helpful if you answered that question, since that is what is
 being discussed.
I'll try my best.

Cheers,
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Re: foundation application..

[Tobias Mueller]

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 01:35:17PM +, Magdalen Berns wrote:
 Really? GNOME have no role in this statement which went out to the OP and
 GSoC intern lists in August of 2014?
I don't know what exactly you mean by GNOME who has or does not have
a role in the statement.

 Before denying this is a practice again, draw your attention to the last line 
 which says  If you only started contributing to GNOME after February 2014, 
 we 
 ask that you continue contributing for another half a year before applying 
 http://www.gnome.org/foundation/membership/apply/;. 
I don't read all successful interns are not eligible for membership
there which is what you claimed.

Cheers,
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Re: foundation application..

[Tobias Mueller]

Hi.

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 10:00:29AM -0500, Dave Neary wrote:
 On 02/13/2015 09:07 AM, Tobias Mueller wrote:
  There is no general answer.  Applications are handled on a case-by-case 
  basis.
  The number of objections to the decision of the membership committee I know 
  of is exactly 0.
  Of course, that number is biased towards the lower end as people might not
  have applied in first case.  And it's hard to say how many people have not 
  applied.
 
 The membership committee guidelines single out interns
Right, but as I've said, it's not a general answer and applications are dealt
with on a case-by-case basis.

I know of only one case where a GSoC student was rejected with the 
justification 
of us only accepting GSoCers only after two months after the internship.
In this case though, the student applied one week after the internship had 
started (i.e. not even ended yet).  Previous contributions were not identified.
I haven't sent the rejection letter myself, but I would have done the same,
rather than saying that the contributions weren't non-trivial enough just yet.

For reasons outlined in this thread, I think it's a good advise to not accept 
people who have just joined the community.  I think that, in order to identify 
with GNOME, the GNOME community, and the GNOME Foundation, a few months should 
have 
passed.  Of course, I wouldn't think of it as being set in stone, but rather a 
guidance.

It's good to challenge the status quo and I'm happy to hear more points of 
views.

Cheers,
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Re: GNOME support for fixmydocument.eu

[Tobias Mueller]

Hi.

On Wed, Feb 04, 2015 at 11:51:41AM +0100, Olav Vitters wrote:
 There's a website to encourage support for open standards, so ODF usage
 within European Union. On http://fixmydocuments.eu/?page_id=27 I see
Good idea.   Does anybody feel like writing a short statement?

Cheers,
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GNOME starts campaign to protect its trademarks

[Tobias Mueller]

GNOME has launched a campaign¹ to raise funds for protecting the GNOME 
trademarks.

Recently, Groupon launched Gnome², a tablet-based point of sale (POS) system 
that 
Groupon describes as a “platform” and an “operating system”.

The GNOME Foundation is concerned and sees their long-established mark for Free 
Software, GNOME, endangered. The GNOME Foundation asks for ideological and 
monetary support to cover the costs of opposing the marks Groupon applied to 
register, which were estimated to be around 80,000 USD.

“I cannot believe Groupon was not aware of GNOME, the Free Software desktop 
environment and application suite, when it chose the name. Especially as they 
claim to be ‘fueled by open source‘³,” said Tobias Mueller, one of the 
directors 
of the GNOME Foundation.

“We will not give up and fight their use of our name which we have established 
over the last 17 years to provide users all over the world with high quality 
Free Software solutions.”

“Millions of people who use GNU/Linux based systems use GNOME or GNOME-related 
technologies, such as GLib or GTK+. We must not let a billion-dollar-company 
take the well-established name of one of the biggest Free Software 
communities,” 
Tobias added. “If you want to help GNOME defend its trademark and promote Free 
Software, visit the campaign’s page¹, share the link, and let Groupon know that 
they behaved terribly”.

GNOME also made a press contact⁴ available for further questions or interviews.


1: http://www.gnome.org/groupon/ 
2: http://investor.groupon.com/releasedetail.cfm?releaseid=848707 
3: 
https://engineering.groupon.com/2014/open-source/sharing-is-caring-open-source-at-groupon/
 
4: mailto:grou...@gnome.org 
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Re: Call for OPW project ideas

[Tobias Mueller]

Hi.

[dropping d-d-l]

On Mon, Nov 03, 2014 at 10:46:13PM +0100, Benjamin Berg wrote:
 On Sa, 2014-09-27 at 11:45 -0400, Marina Zhurakhinskaya wrote:
  Yes. The legal liability is only for gross negligence, recklessness or
  intentional wrongdoing. This is covered on
  https://wiki.gnome.org/OutreachProgramForWomen#Contracts
 
 OK, I am very late to the thread, but I did read trough the contracts
 and I do have some concerns.
 
 As I understand it, the whole point is to protect all parties involved
 from lawsuits. However, the contract seems to be biased a lot toward
 GNOME, and I am not sure it protects the mentors properly.
Right.  I share those concerns and the feeling that there are enough laws 
covering gross negligence, recklessness or intentional wrongdoing and that we 
better not try to outsmart those.

I am also missing some form of incentive to sign the contract.
Why would I want to sign a document full of American legalese?

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Re: OPW; Where does the 500$ for each GSoC goes?

[Tobias Mueller]

Hi.

On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 02:57:20PM +0200, Sébastien Wilmet wrote:
 Like the Linux Foundation, the GNOME Foundation could hire one or more
 developers.
It has been mentioned already that this is not a valid analogy, but even it was,
I don't think this will happen in the (near) future.
I think the Foundation's goal must be to enable the community to develop
great Free Software, not do the actual development.

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Re: question for candidates

[Tobias Mueller]

Hi.

On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 11:56:16AM -0700, Andy Tai wrote:
 What are your views on the participation of the people of these projects,
 as stake holders in the direction of gtk+, in the GNOME Foundation?  Should
 the GNOME Foundation encourage (reach out to) these people to get them
 involved in the GNOME Foundation so they also have a say and even
 contribute to gtk+ so gtk+ can continue to serve their needs well,
 important for the continuing successes of gtk+ in the free software world?
 
Absolutely. And, as others have said, we were and are trying to foster
relations with hackfests. I think that is good and necessary.

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Re: Questions for the candidates: finances

[Tobias Mueller]

Hi.

On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 11:19:37AM -0700, Jim Nelson wrote:
 Aside from corporate sponsorship and personal donations, what area(s) 
 would you investigate to increase and stabilize GNOME's finances?  (Or 
 do you feel these two methods are the only or best way to achieve this 
 goal?)
Reducing costs; although I think it is quite obvious that you cannot spend 
money 
that you don't receive.
I see potential in various areas, such as our Friends of GNOME 
programme, the travel budget, or the people we pay for GNOME related work.
Right now, we ship donors' gifts from the US.  That's probably not the most 
economical option, esp. when sending things to our European donors.
We could scale down travel support or have a policy that covers, say, up to 80% 
by default.
Also, while we need committed people to do work for us, I'm not entirely
convinced that we need to pay a salary.  We could try to get committed community
members to take over responsibility before thinking of hiring someone to do it
for us.  I don't think we can scale down much further now, though ;-)

As for sources of income, I think we need to make it attractive for people
to give (personal) donations first, before thinking of scaling up or expanding 
in other areas.  That includes being able to receive money via something 
not Paypal or reaching out to our donors and tell them what we've done with the 
money they gave us.

Cheers,
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Re: Minutes of the Board Meeting of April 22nd, 2014

[Tobias Mueller]

Hi.

On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 04:42:28PM +0200, Vincent Untz wrote:
 Doesn't the new board officially start on July 1st?
It does.

* may be better to extend the next board's term by one month
* more discussion on the mailing list, until the end of this week
 
 Btw, what was the conclusion (since the elections are starting)? :-)
Nothing was concluded. The next term will thus be 12 months.

Cheers,
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Board of Directors Elections 2014 - Candidacy - Tobias Mueller

[Tobias Mueller]

Name: Tobias Mueller
EMail: tobiasmue@gnome org
Affiliation: SAP


Dear Foundation,

I am throwing my hat in the ring for serving another term on the Foundation's
Board of Directors.

I have served on the Board of the GNOME Foundation for two years now and as I
enjoy my duties I would like to continue doing so. I promote Free Software and
GNOME wherever I can. I am regularly speaking at conferences and making contact
with new users, contributors, or other organisations that help us to advance
GNOME, spread the word about Free Software, and ultimately make the world a
better place.

I am running for the Board because I think I can be an asset in making GNOME
better. I think we need to restructure our Friends of GNOME programme to make it
cost us much less time or upgrade our Bugzilla instance. If elected, I would try
to steer resources towards those goals.

Happy voting,
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Re: New challenge

[Tobias Mueller]

Hi :)

I also want to thank Karen for her work. It's been a very good time. Thanks a 
lot! Looking forward to work with you in the future.
  Tobi
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Re: internal engagement

[Tobias Mueller]

Hi.

On Tue, Mar 04, 2014 at 11:24:40AM -0800, Germán Póo-Caamaño wrote:
 How is that none of the directors noticed this to fix it?
That is not the case. I raised the point that no email hit f-l. But it was not 
considered to a problem as we decided to go with a call for bids.

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LinuxTag 2014 - Call for Papers

[Tobias Mueller]

Hello everyone :)

While we are busy with FOSDEM preparation the LinuxTag CfP just arrived in my
inbox. It'd be great to have a strong GNOME presence at the event from May, 8th 
to May, 10th in Berlin, Germany.

You can see the CfP here: https://www.linuxtag.org/2014/en/

Cheers,
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FOSDEM 2014 participation

[Tobias Mueller]

Hello everyone.

If you intend to go to FOSDEM, please consider to
add yourself to this list:
https://wiki.gnome.org/Events/FOSDEM/2014/Stand#attendees

We still need some people who commit to help out at the stand.

I'm also looking for someone who is willing to moderate a (rather non 
technical) joint panel with KDE. 
If you feel comfortable asking snarky questions and dealing with an angry mob 
in 
the audience, please contact me off list.

Thanks,
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Re: Minutes of the Board meeting of October 29th, 2013

[Tobias Mueller]

Hi everyone :)

On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 07:51:18PM -0500, Máirín Duffy wrote:
 By that standard, Fedora isn't 'GNOME' either (would any distro be
 shipping GNOME at that point?) Firefox and LibreOffice are installed
 defaults in Fedora:
 
There is no Fedora GNOME, right? Then I think the situation there is 
different.

I don't think that not shipping (some parts of) GNOME, or patched versions 
thereof is problematic.
From my understanding, calling it GNOME is, from a trademark 
perspective. Especially if the name GNOME is combined with another product's 
name. The problem is, IIUC, twofold: Is it (legally) possible to have the 
GNOME brand diluted now while still being able to defend it later?
And do we, as a community, actually want our brand to be diluted?

I am very happy to have the second question discussed here.

My stance is that I am happy for them (or anyone) to include GNOME in their 
product. They have permission (IIRC) to name it something GNOME. So it's a 
different product, i.e. not GNOME. I am happy if they use our logo. I'd be 
more happy if they also silghtly modify the logo as they slightly modified the 
name. I assume it's relatively low effort and helps us to defend improper usage 
in the future and them to differentiate their product. If it's not low effor to 
slightly modify the logo, then I might come to a different conclusion.

 It really sounds like, to me, GNOME should talk to a trademark lawyer
 and/or someone experienced with brand management.
 
I've heard we have someone competent on staff ;-)


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Re: Minutes of the Board meeting of October 29th, 2013

[Tobias Mueller]

Hi.

On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 09:03:34AM -0500, Emily Gonyer wrote:
 And, once again, I have to ask, how much different does it have/need
 to be?
I don't think any designer would want my advice as to how to make a logo.
But I am very confident that minor modifications such as using the Ubuntu 
circle 
instead of a plain filled circle would make all of us happy.

 It is slightly different already, in Ubuntu's normal scheme for
 spinoffs - if you look at Xubuntu's logo its a solid circle with the
 XFCE mouse inside in relief
I claim false facts.
The XFCE logo seems to be this: 
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fb/Xfce_logo.png
A full bodied, potentially running mouse in front of an X.
The Xubuntu logo seems to be that one: 
http://xubuntu.org/wp-content/themes/xubuntu-theme/xubuntu-wp/images/xubuntu-logo.png
It's a (probably the XFCE) mouse's head in a filled circle.
So the logos differ.

 Kubuntu's is a solid circle with KDE's logo inside.
The KDE logo http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Guidelines/CIG/KDE_Logo is a 
K gear.
The Kubuntu logo http://www.kubuntu.org/themes/kubuntu10.04/logo.png
has a split gear-wheel only. The K is missing.
Thus, the logos differ.

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FOSDEM 2014 - GNOME Stand - Call for volunteers

[Tobias Mueller]

Hi everyone.

We have just applied for a GNOME booth at FOSDEM in Brussels, Belgium.
It'd be nice to have an overview of whether we will be able to staff the
booth. If you will be around (2014-02-01 and 2014-02-02) and are able to
help out, please add yourself to the list in the wiki:
https://wiki.gnome.org/GnomeEvents/FOSDEM/2014

As helping out is easy there are not so many excuses to not help out ;-)

Hoping to see all of you there,
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Change in affiliation

[Tobias Mueller]

Hi.

My affiliation changed from None to SAP.

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Re: plans for FOSDEM 2014?

[Tobias Mueller]

hi.

On 15.08.2013 11:02, Emmanuele Bassi wrote:
 I know that the FOSDEM organisers haven't sent out the email for booths
 and/rooms yet, but I just wanted to ask well in advance if we had
 volunteers for either.
Thanks for catching that. Let's ask marketing (CCed).
I might not be able to dedicate as much time for FOSDEM as I used to in
the last couple of years, so it'd be good to know that we'll have enough
people that care.

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Re: Some questions for the candidates

[Tobias Mueller]

Hi :)

On 06.06.2013 23:04, Brian Cameron wrote:
 Advisory board members are encouraged to join when there is clear
 value in doing so.  What work has been done over the past year to
 increase this value or effectively communicate such values?
Spontaneously, I remember that proper user testing was a desire which
was addressed by relevant members of the community at an in person
meeting¹. I did not lead that effort and I neither did nor do know the
details of that; I hope that someone more knowledgeable chimes in if you
have any further questions. But IIRC the user testing still running.

Off the top of my hat, I don't know any actions that were done
pro-actively to increase value for the advisory board. But I may well
be corrected. We are primarily a Free Software community, after all. So
the bigger part of our focus shall be our community and our software.

If you have any suggestions as to how to increase the value, I am
confident that all current and running members of the board are
interested to hear them. Or better: Seeing them implemented ;-)

Cheers,
  Tobi

¹ https://live.gnome.org/FoundationBoard/Minutes/20130122
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Re: Some questions for the candidates

[Tobias Mueller]

Hi :)

On 02.06.2013 16:11, C.J. Adams-Collier KF7BMP wrote:
 What are your plans to encourage and enable participation by more women
 in the GNOME community?
 
I don't have any. Besides continuing our Outreach Program for Women
which I think is running great (thanks to everyone involved). It  has
even been adopted by various other organisations.

 How do you plan to support the demand for accessibility infrastructure
 opened up by recent changes in the environment such as Debian's
 inclusion of text to speech in its installer?
Hm. We just had a fund raiser for accessibility. From my limited
understanding I assume that we are fairly good at providing
accessibility. I welcome any efforts towards enhancing that support as I
believe that it is important provide Free Software to everybody,
regardless of their abilities.

 Can you be an advocate for more corporate support?
Yes. We should try to find out what it is that keeps companies from
joining the advisory board, despite recent years being economically
tough. Another area is better service to sponsors for our conferences.
We had some discussions in the advisory board that will hopefully
continue to identify areas of improvement.

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Re: Charter not found

[Tobias Mueller]

Hi Sindhu,

On 27.05.2013 11:18, Sindhu S wrote:
 Currently the description goes under a section called About xxx where
 xxx is the name of the mailing list. For this list the description is:
 
 This is a forum for discussion relating to the GNOME Foundation. For
 information relating to the GNOME Foundation, please see the following
 link:
 
 https://live.gnome.org/Foundation/Charter;
 
 which I think can be elaborated to the likes of:
 
 This is a forum for discussion relating to the workings of GNOME
 Foundation as an organization. You can post questions/queries about it's
 administration, purview of activities, events/conferences that concern
 it (that is, where GNOME is involved or being promoted) and related
 matters. For help regarding GNOME and it's applications see:
 gnome-shell, gnome-love...
 
 Such a description should be more elaborate in explaining the mailing
 list's intention, I think.
Thanks for your suggestion. I updated the text on
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list

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Re: Questions for candidates

[Tobias Mueller]

Bonjour :)

On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 02:21:46PM -0700, Germán Póo-Caamaño wrote:
 If you are already in the board, what have you done less?
 
Reg. GNOME I have done less on the Membership and Elections committee 
and I also browse the bugzilla less than I used to.

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Re: Charter not found

[Tobias Mueller]

Heya :)

On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 11:57:02PM +0530, Sindhu S wrote:
 I was wondering lately what topics are OK to post on this mailing list
 because lately I have been seeing many people post unrelated topics on
 mailing lists including this [1][2] such as gtk-list[3],
 desktop-devel-app[4].
 
At least one of those emails landed in global the moderation queue 
that I look after evey so often. I usually don't reject mails unless it's SPAM 
or very obviously off topic. I'd prefer more list owners so that less 
mails will hit the global moderation queue.

 I suggest we take a few proactive
 measures to minimize occurrence of such e-mail.
 
Cool. Do you have a concrete suggestion? I quite sure that we can put up 
a small text next to the mailing lists.

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LinuxTag 2013 - Not going to happen

[Tobias Mueller]

Hey folks,

unfortunately, we lack people to run the booth at LinuxTag. I thus 
cancelled our booth and two presentations we had.

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Re: ANNOUNCE: The GUADEC 2013 Call for Presentations is now open!

[Tobias Mueller]

Hola,

On 03.04.2013 01:10, Andreas Nilsson wrote:
 On 2013-04-02 19:47, Gil Forcada wrote:
 Sorry for asking here, but will be, at last, get a permanent version of
 the website
 Excellent question!
 I want to fix this for future events [1], or ideally, have a intern
 tackle it [2], because setting this up every time is too much stress.
 
 1. https://live.gnome.org/GnomeWeb/EventsSite
 2. https://live.gnome.org/GnomeWomen/OutreachProgram/2013/JuneSeptember
hm. The way I understood the question is whether we will have something
that we can have a look at in 2 years. Or 10. Or 20 even. Like an
archived version. So with today's technology a static version produced
with httrack.

I understand your response, in a different way. That is whether future
instalments of an event website will have to go through all the hoops
again. I see those questions not relating at all.

And FTR: I do appreciate an archived, static, version that can easily be
kept for the future to look at.

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Re: Cancel adopt-a-hacker donations

[Tobias Mueller]

Hello Katy,

On 11.03.2013 10:18, Katy Henry wrote:
 Who do I contact to cancel my adopt-a-hacker monthly donations?
As far as I know you can cancel your subscription from within your
Paypal account.

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LinuxTag 2013 - Running the booth

[Tobias Mueller]

Hey folks :)

LinuxTag is about to happen from Wednesday 2013-05-22 until Saturday 
2013-05-25 in Berlin, Germany and if you plan to come, it'd be cool if you 
considered staffing the booth. If you do, please add yourself to the list 
in the wiki: https://live.gnome.org/GnomeEvents/LinuxTag/2013


Thanks,
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Re: jabber.gnome.org: a proposal

[Tobias Mueller]

Hola,

On 12.03.2013 14:38, Shaun McCance wrote:
 So I get to
 send my password in plain text to register with our new bot.
 
But your bot password isn't as valuable as *the one* GNOME password that
the jabber server currently uses.

  Why not get the GNOME jabber service (co-)hosted somewhere else, where
  it would be possible to add the features you want?
 What would we have to do on the GNOME side to allow this?
As far as I understand: integrating our LDAP authentication with that
other service provider. Sounds messy to me. Too messy as that I would
spend resources on. Esp. since I consider the benefit to be rather low.
If someone goes ahead and makes it happen: Cool. But again: Other things
would be even cooler, like porting Mango to Django.

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Re: jabber.gnome.org's future

[Tobias Mueller]

Hola!

On 01.03.2013 13:45, Andrea Veri wrote:
 1. have you ever used jabber.gnome.org http://jabber.gnome.org?
Hm. Well. My clients logs me in, yes. But I don't really use the account.

 2. is it a service you find useful?
No. There is no extra service compared to other jabber services. Except
that we self-host it, which usually is a big plus. But I don't see the
costs of running the instance outweigh the benefits. Especially since we
use IRC.

 3. do you think we should discontinue it? if yes, why? if not, why?
Yes. I know Openfire as a resource hungry and unmaintained beast. I am
glad to see that they do releases but I remember very well that we had
to switch our XMPPd because of gaping security holes in Openfire.
Plus, right now one has to use the Mango password which allows to log in
to various GNOME services. Given that it's easy to get the crypto layer
wrong, the risk of exposure of the password is high.

 4. what are the major issues you had with it and you would like to see
 fixed? (apart the self-signed SSL certificate, which will be fixed soon)
One could think of a shared roster.

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Re: GNOME.Asia 2013

[Tobias Mueller]

Hola!

On Fri, Feb 08, 2013 at 12:19:29PM +0100, Andre Klapper wrote:
 Will something like GNOME.Asia Summit 2013 happen?
As per http://www.gnome.org/news/2012/12/gnome-asia-2013-to-be-held-in-korea/:
Yes! \o/

 If so, when and where? 
The dates are pretty much fixed now:
The 2013 edition of GNOME.Asia Summit will be held in Seoul, Korea, 2013-05-24 
- 2013-05-25 \o/

 Knowing would help for planning.
 
Aye. A Call for Sponsors and Call for Papers is in the works. Expect it 
to hit the news and hopefully the planet, soon.

Feel free to subscribe to the wiki pages or the mailing lists as minutes 
are put there.

FWIW: The mailling list situation reg. GNOME.Asia Summit can be a bit 
confusing but it is simple, after all: There is (as per 
https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/)
 * gnome-asia-list  -   General discussion among Asian GNOME communities
 * gnome-asia-committee-list  -  Private communication among GNOME Asia 
committee
 * asia-summit-list Committee list of GNOME.Asia Summit organization

The intended use, as far as I understood, is that g-a-l is rather 
general, maybe like gnome-de.
g-a-c-l is a bit of a misnomer and should rather be 
asia-summit-committee-list because it's used for more internal 
communication reg. the GNOME.Asia Summit. And finally, the a-s-l for 
stuff regarding the summit itself, like guadec-list.

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Re: Andrea Veri - GNOME's new part-time sysadmin hire!

[Tobias Mueller]

Hola!

On 25.01.2013 06:08, Luis Villa wrote:
 Terrific news!
 
 And thanks also to all the supporters of the Foundation
Two points I absolutely agree with.

Also thanks to Andrea who had the patience to work out the contract with
the Board.

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LinuxTag 2013 - Call for Papers

[Tobias Mueller]

Hey everyone.

The LinuxTag 2013 takes place in Berlin, Germany, from Wednesday,
2013-05-22 until Thursday, 2013-05-23.

It's a mix of a conference and expo and we still have the chance to hand
in GNOME talks to have a strong presence there. I just submitted a
request for a GNOME booth. If you're interested in helping out there,
let the wiki know: https://live.gnome.org/GnomeEvents/LinuxTag/2013

The website is here: http://wiki.linuxtag.org/w/vp:Call_for_Papers.
There is no real conclusion as to when the Call for Papers ends, but it
will be very soon.

So if you have something to talk about, consider submitting something to
LinuxTag.

Let me you if you need any help.

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Re: FOSDEM 2013 - GNOME Stand

[Tobias Mueller]

Bonjour a tous :-)

For all that plan to come to FOSDEM:

On 24.11.2012 02:47, Tobias Mueller wrote:
 It'd be cool, if you could use the wiki page over here this year:
 https://live.gnome.org/GnomeEvents/FOSDEM/2013
We are organising the booth here:
https://live.gnome.org/GnomeEvents/FOSDEM/2013/Stand.
Please consider helping out, especially in the morning and evenings.

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Re: Setting moderation bit for members who consistently hijack topics

[Tobias Mueller]

Heya,

On 09.01.2013 23:15, Andrew Cowie wrote:
 Would it be possible to set the moderation bit for Richard Stallman's
 posts to GNOME lists?
sure it would be. The list is managed by mailman and it has that feature.

 As Stormy pointed out, every time there's a conversation about anything he 
 jumps in and swerves off thread.
I see neither the every time nor the swerving off part. Even if I
did, I hope that it takes some more effort like providing references
before being able to block someone from posting to GNOME mailing lists.
Proof:
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/foundation-list/2013-January/msg0.html

 but constantly hijacking other people's threads is getting
 frustrating.
You can probably tell your client easily to not display mails in these
instances then.
I don't think that your personal frustration should be the reason for
everyone not to receive some type of email.

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Problems receiving email

[Tobias Mueller]

Hey folks,

I just wanted to let you know that I had problems receiving mail via my
@gnome.org alias for the last three weeks or so. If you intended to
contact me, but failed, please try again.

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Re: Memberships needing renewal (2012-11)

[Tobias Mueller]

Bonjour :)

On 03.11.2012 14:43, Andrew Cowie wrote:
 Were there really no renewals necessary this period
Yes :-)

And I altered the script so that it won't generate an email if there are
no renewals necessary:
http://git.gnome.org/browse/foundation-web/commit/?id=85ede4c945cc40722bf71c86c8e5702445dfd227

So far it seems as if there will be members needing renewals the next
few months though.

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Re: Agenda for the board meeting of November 20th, 2012

[Tobias Mueller]

Bonjour Vincent :-)

Thanks a lot for your valuable input!

On 20.11.2012 15:59, Vincent Untz wrote:
 For the record, in the past, what we did instead of formally joining the
 W3C is have some people from our community be invited experts to some
 working groups
Do you have more details on that? Like when about that was and how that
happened?

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GNOME Foundation Bylaws are now changed

[Tobias Mueller]

Dear Foundation :)

As there was no objection by at least 5% of the membership, the 
proposed changes are now in effect. So I went ahead and updated 
http://foundation.gnome.org/ as well as http://foundation.gnome.org/governance/

The new Bylaws can be found in the foundation-web module, i.e. as PDF 
here: 
http://git.gnome.org/browse/foundation-web/tree/foundation.gnome.org/about/bylaws.pdf
 
or as .rst here: 
http://git.gnome.org/browse/foundation-web/tree/foundation.gnome.org/about/bylaws.rst

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Re: Changes to the GNOME Foundation Bylaws from 2002

[Tobias Mueller]

Hello,

On 02.10.2012 09:05, Bastien Nocera wrote:
 Tobias, can you please re-send this with the proper context for
 foundation-announce?
Yes. You are right, I missed out the context in the assumption that the
threading would give it all. But I falsely (and subconsciously) assumed
that everyone does do threading and more importantly, watches
foundation-list. That was a mistake. I should at least have linked to
the thread in the archives.

I will do that.

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Re: Changes to the GNOME Foundation Bylaws from 2002

[Tobias Mueller]

Hello,

On 01.10.2012 03:07, Tobias Mueller wrote:
 I propose to change the current bylaws to the document attached.
 [...]

The context, in case you are not watching foundation-list too closely or
were not at the AGM at GUADEC:
It was suggested to make changes to the bylaws during the AGM at GUADEC.
A printed version of the old bylaws, the potentially new bylaws and a
diff were made available. Most of the changes incorporate amendments
made by the foundation earlier or just reflect the way we operate
nowadays. Some changes are fixed typos, a few introduce new things.
The relevant thread on foundation-list started here:
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/foundation-list/2012-August/msg00041.html.
A diff is linked off here:
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/foundation-list/2012-September/msg4.html
and there is a bug here: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=683980

I'm sorry for not having included that information in my previous mail.

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Re: Discussing changes to the GNOME Foundation Bylaws

[Tobias Mueller]

Heya,

On 10.09.2012 17:20, Bastien Nocera wrote:
 Can you put it in bugzilla?
Yes.

https://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=224252action=edit

FWIW: I use gedit to view it. Or kdiff3 with the two input files.

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Discussing changes to the GNOME Foundation Bylaws

[Tobias Mueller]

Dear Foundation,

we worked on the bylaws and this is the current status. Please find the 
current bylaws here: 
http://www.gnome.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/bylaws.pdf.
I converted that PDF to reStructuredText and you can find the current 
bylaws in that format here 
http://people.gnome.org/~tobiasmue/bylaws2012/bylaws-2002.rst.
(This list only allows attachments 40kB :-\ )

The membership voted to change the bylaws several times since 2002, but 
the actual bylaws were never updated. Also, some things work now 
differently than a decade ago. We came up with a changed version which 
you can find here 
http://people.gnome.org/~tobiasmue/bylaws2012/bylaws-2012.rst. The 
diff of the changes is here 
http://people.gnome.org/~tobiasmue/bylaws2012/bylaws-2002-2012.diff.


We think we have incorporated all the changes that should be made. But 
we'd obviously love if people check whether it's actually right. I 
suggest that interested people check whether the translation to .rst was 
correct and then go through the changes. In case there is any need to 
discuss, we do it here.

We will hopefully end up with a version that works for everyone. At some 
stage, we need to officially give 21 days notice of the change of the 
bylaws as per Article XVII of the current bylaws. Then people have time 
to object the changes. If 5% of the membership (currently that would be 
around 20) object, we will vote on that. I will clearly announce once we 
are in that stage. Let's try to start the notice period in one month 
from now though. So if you have any changes to the changes, make 
yourself heard until the 30th September 2012.

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Changing Bylaws (was: Minutes for the Board Meeting of July 24, 2012)

[Tobias Mueller]

Hello :)

On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 07:09:40PM +0200, Vincent Untz wrote:
 I don't think this was done. Can the diff get sent? :-)
 
Yep. I was supposed to do it and I haven't done it yet. I'll do it 
hopefully within the next week.

I have a small issue though: We potentially want to discuss the hunks in 
the diff and also propose new versions. Doing that via email is quite 
tedious, because we cannot easily keep track of the whole document. But 
neither gobby nor git nor the wiki are good solutions, as neither of 
them is good for actually discussing things.
So if you have a suggestion as to how to nicely discuss changes to the 
bylaws, let me know. I'll send around the old bylaws, the potential 
new bylaws and the diff soon anyway.

And at some stage we need to put the final proposal up on 
http://foundation.gnome.org for a notice period. We must put the new 
bylaws up on http://foundation.gnome.org; for a few weeks before they 
will be put into effect. I'm still tinkering with that new wordpress 
instance to make it happen.
Again, if you have a proposal as to how to integrate that
notice, let me know.

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Re: Minutes for the Board Meeting of July 13, 2012

[Tobias Mueller]

Hello :)

On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 05:19:00PM +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote:
 On 24 August 2012 16:09, Dave Neary dne...@gnome.org wrote:
  Actually, even more useful would be notice of the agenda for board meetings
  to foundation-list a couple of days before they happen. Would that be
  possible?
 
 [...] do other board
 members and foundation members have any objection?
 
No. I really like the idea of having a public agenda. That would enable 
people to participate more closely. If we could make MoinMoin render 
private items only to those who are supposed to read them (maybe we find 
someone to write a MoinMoin plugin..?) we would be probably be able to 
expose the Agenda and the Minutes pretty much directly after the 
meetings. But well, as that's likely not going to happen, we probably 
will have to send the Agenda (in what ever state it will be) around 
manually.

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Re: Minutes of the Board Meeting - June 29, 2012

[Tobias Mueller]

Heya :)

On 18.07.2012 22:05, Frederic Peters wrote:
 This makes me think an infrastructure hackfest may be a good idea
The membership committee probably has an interest in that, too. The
voting webapp needs to be made accessible and the state of django-mango
could be evaluated.

So yeah, I'm all for an infrastructure hackfest.

Let's talk during GUADEC about that!

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Presenting your team at the AGM during GUADEC

[Tobias Mueller]

Hello :)

You have the great opportunity to present your teams' work at the AGM 
during GUADEC (Saturday, 28.07, 15:30), please prepare a couple of slides and 
send them to Karen. 
I guess PDF or odp will work best.
She'll wrap it all up and make sure that things will go smoothly.
It'd be really helpful to not have to put everything together in the 
last minute ;-)

Thanks,
  Tobi

On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 03:43:33PM +0100, Emmanuele Bassi wrote:
* GUADEC 2012
  * Materials for the AGM
* GUADEC is a bit hectic for everyone
* Materials for the AGM are prepared at GUADEC, but it would be
 better to have them ready or nearly ready beforehand
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Re: A question for the candidates

[Tobias Mueller]

Bonjour :)

On 25.05.2012 09:21, Allan Day wrote:
 Sometimes it can feel like the Board of Directors is a bit divorced
 from the rest of the GNOME project. Is this a problem, in your view?
 If it is, what do you think can be done about it?

I wouldn't say I see a divorce. I'd say it feels a bit sluggish, based
on what others already said: late minutes or lack of visible response.
And yes, it is unpleasant if one doesn't know what is happening and thus
being able to take influence. So I would try to have the minutes sent
around ASAP. But as far as I could see, nobody was suffering enough yet
to publicly ask whether it'd be possible to make things more (timely)
public.

Generally though, I consider it to be a good thing if the Board is not
terribly visible as I consider the Board as something that keeps the
community (and thus the Foundation) alive and moving and as long as it
doesn't need to stir things up, it's running well, I'd say.

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Re: GNOME Board of Directors Elections 2012 - Voting Instructions sent

[Tobias Mueller]

Bonjour,

On 28.05.2012 03:13, Behdad Esfahbod wrote:
 After entering my creds I get:
 
 The election is not properly set up.
 
Aye, my bad *blush*

Fixed.

Thanks for reporting.
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Re: Announcing Board of Directors Elections 2012

[Tobias Mueller]

Hello :)

Just a quick reminder that as per http://vote.gnome.org/2012/rules.html
the last day to announce candidacies and submit summary statements is
this Sunday, the 2012-05-20.

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GNOME at LinuxTag 2012

[Tobias Mueller]

Hey folks :)

I want to remind you of the LinuxTag which takes place in a few weeks.

On 12.02.2012 16:07, Tobias Mueller wrote:
 I've just submitted GNOME for upcoming LinuxTag 2012
 http://www.linuxtag.org/2012/ taking place from Wednesday 2012-05-23
 until Saturday 2012-05-26 in Berlin, Germany.
 
 So if you happen to have time to help out at the booth, please consider
 adding yourself to the wiki:
 https://live.gnome.org/GnomeEvents/LinuxTag/2012.
Again, please consider to help out at the booth. We're located in the
very same booth as KDE so I'd be great if we could show up with a great
number of people :-)

If you have any question, feel free to drop me a line.

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Re: GNOME Deutchland e.V. [Was: Re: European bank account for donations]

[Tobias Mueller]

Heya,

I remember a similar discussion some time ago, but can't search the
archives atm.

On 09.03.2012 13:30, Chris Kühl wrote:
 Does the GNOME e.V. even exist any longer?
It never existed, i.e. it never was a e.V. (which is able to give tax
deductible invoices).
In the thread I remember Murray kinda explained the situation.

It's probably not terribly hard to set an e.V. up though. I takes a
handful of people and some administrative overhead. But yeah, we'd need
them first...

HTH,
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Re: IDLELO 5: March 19 - 23 2012

[Tobias Mueller]

Heya,

On 26.01.2012 16:30, Karen Sandler wrote:
 I think it's really
 important for GNOME to have a presence there.
Is anybody going now?

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Submitted GNOME booth for LinuxTag 2012

[Tobias Mueller]

Hey folks,

I've just submitted GNOME for upcoming LinuxTag 2012
http://www.linuxtag.org/2012/ taking place from Wednesday 2012-05-23
until Saturday 2012-05-26 in Berlin, Germany.

So if you happen to have time to help out at the booth, please consider
adding yourself to the wiki:
https://live.gnome.org/GnomeEvents/LinuxTag/2012.

I'd also like if we could submit many GNOMEy talks this year. So if you
have a slight idea about what to present, don't hesitate to register
(with the rather complex thing) at https://vcc.linuxtag.org/ or ask me
and we'll walk it through.

Cheers,
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Re: FOSDEM stand

[Tobias Mueller]

Heya :)

On 23.01.2012 11:10, Christophe Fergeau wrote:
  * Looong power extension cords
 Dunno if someone living in Brussels can provide these?
 I'll try to bring a few otherwise
Hm. So far nobody stepped up. Could you provide some then?

 I've also ordered and received 100 GNOME nametag stickers so that we
 can identify our fellow gnomies.
Wow, that's cool :) Let's hope that we'll have a big marker to actually
write our name, too ;-)

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Re: GNOME @ CeBIT 2012 (2012-03-06 - 2012-03-10 in Hannover, Germany) - Volunteers needed

[Tobias Mueller]

Hey folks,

I registered GNOME for the CeBIT happening in March in Hannover,
Germany.
http://www.linux-magazin.de/NEWS/CeBIT-Open-Source-2012-Call-for-Projects

We are selected to have a small stand \o/

However, the organisers require us to staff the booth during the whole
conference and I surely can't stand there the whole time on my own.
So I'd like you to consider helping out representing GNOME at CeBIT this
year, because if we don't get enough people, we will not be able to get
a presence at CeBIT.
As we need to confirm on upcoming Monday, I'd like you to add yourself
to the table at https://live.gnome.org/GnomeEvents/CeBIT/2012 if you
happen to have time.

In case of questions: Ask me :)

Thanks,
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Re: FOSDEM stand

[Tobias Mueller]

Hey folks :)

Let me draw your attention at the wiki:
https://live.gnome.org/GnomeEvents/FOSDEM/2012/Stand. It'd be awesome
if you could add yourself to the list of people helping out at the
FOSDEM stand. So far, it's only a couple of people willing to help.

On 21.12.2011 16:48, Lionel Dricot wrote:
 If I need to
 do something else, please be sure to check that with me first.
Lionel: Can you install (or update) the machines in the EventBox?

Thanks,
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Re: FOSDEM stand

[Tobias Mueller]

Heya :-)

On 21.12.2011 16:48, Lionel Dricot wrote:

If I need to
do something else, please be sure to check that with me first.
Could you please update the wiki page: 
https://live.gnome.org/GnomeEventsBox/Schedule and contact 
ad...@collabora.com for shipment details.
After FOSDEM, I will most likely take the EventBox to Germany to have it 
ready for CeBIT in March. The schedule doesn't indicate that the box is 
needed meanwhile. If there is any event where the box is needed, please 
make yourself heard.


Thanks!
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Re: GNOME Board of Directors Elections 2011 - Voting Instructions sent

[Tobias Mueller]

Heya,

On 31.05.2011 04:38, Danielle Madeley wrote:
 Can this please be fixed.
definitely.

Do you have suggestions?

Cheers,
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