Re: It's time again for pants nominations
Hi, On 30 May 2018 at 11:52, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: > On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 1:23 PM Didier Roche wrote: >> The only >> requirements are that the person is attending GUADEC to receive the >> pants, and that it's not a current or outgoing board member. > > I really wanted to nominate Carlos Soriano for all the work done with the > migration to GitLab, but he's a board member! Why does this requirement > exist? I don't remember :) > > I also want to nominate: > > * Christian Hergert for his work on end-user developer tooling, such as > GNOME Builder and Sysprof > * Sriram Ramkrishna for his community work, which is a list too long to > summarize here FWIW, I also support these two nominations. It's indeed a pity that we can't nominate Carlos but last I checked with him, he's happy getting rewarded with votes (in the board elections) and beers too. :) -- Regards, Zeeshan Ali ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Affiliation change
Hi all, Sep 29 was my last day at Pelagicore and today is my first day at Kinvolk gmbH. I will update wikipages. -- Regards, Zeeshan Ali ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Question to GNOME Foundation Board candidates
Hi Max, On 26 May 2017 at 18:13, Max wrote: > Hello all, > > First, thanks to all candidates for volunteering to the Foundation Board. > Max come from GNOME.Asia team and thanks GNOME and board support Asia. > > > I know there will be more people ask questions about all domain with > GNOME, so I ask 1 question with Asia first. > I have 3 questions to all candidates ( sorry for my poor English ) > > 1) How many hours per week do you expect you will be able to dedicate > to working on the board on a regular basis? It's my first time so I don't know how much would suffice but I'm hopeful I'll be able to give at least 2-3 hours every week, sometimes more. > 2) What's your plan and view with GNOME in Asia? How do you think > about grow GNOME in Asia? Although I have never been fortunate enough to attend GNOME Asia[1], I've been informed by participants that GNOME is pretty big in Asia so I think we should definitely continue to have a presence in that part of the world. While I do not have any suggestion as to how we can grow in Asia, I'll be very glad to listen to any suggestion/ideas on that and try my best to execute them if they are worth pursuing. > 3) How do you make GNOME great again? ( Sorry for my poor English again ) > Any idea about let everyone say " Wow!! it's GNOME " " I know GNOME :) " I think GNOME is pretty great already but of course there is a long way to perfection and we should strive for perfection but I believe most of the work towards that is accomplished by awesome contributors like yourself and a lot of it is through coding. What foundation can do IMO is to (try to) ensure that conferences and hackfests are sponsored and advertised. AFAIK foundation has already been doing a great job at that so we just need to continue that. We have GUADEC as our biggest event, then we have GNOME Asia and then Boston summit too. We have plenty of hackfests too. We also try to sponsor all our GSoC student to attend GUADEC. So again, I think we just need to keep doing what we are already doing. Of course if we realize that we have the budget to do more, we should consider the possibility of arranging more events. Personally, I would be more inclined to arrange more hackfests than conferences as you can get a lot done in a few days than you'd get done in months with hackfests. Many folks have dayjobs that doesn't pay them to work on GNOME so while they have a desire to contribute, they never managed to contribute enough because it's difficult for them to focus on GNOME work. Hackfests give these contributors the escape they need from daily routine/work to contribute. What I can do personally is to arrange hackfests where we feel there is a need for focused hacking/work together in one room. As you might know, I've arranged a hackfest in the past[2] and participated in a few so I've some experience there that should help me. > Thanks again for all candidates volunteering to the Foundation Board. You're most welcome and thanks a lot for your contributions as well. -- Regards, Zeeshan Ali [1] Although I was born and raised in Pakistan, which is logically a part of Asia, the software industry in there seems more connected with Europe and US than rest of Asia. [2] https://wiki.gnome.org/Hackfests/Location2014 ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Travel committee disfunctional?
On Sat, Mar 19, 2016 at 3:35 AM, Max wrote: > Hi Zeeshan and ALL Hi Max, > I am Max, one of the travel committee members and GNOME.Asia members. > > > We have 2 wiki for GNOME travel instruction. Thanks so much for providing all the details here. Also thanks a bunch for reimbursement (I've received it today). I have some comments for the record: > Honestly, when I see this mail at foundation-list, I feel a little sad why I > spend much time at volunteers task. ( But I will still do more with GNOME > cause that’s the way I choose to contribute ) I'm very sorry if my mail here caused you (or anyone) any grief. The point was to bring up a potential issue that I saw: If travel committee members do not have sufficient time to be able to communicate in timely manner to folks awaiting for reimbursement. If that is the case, nobody is to be blamed (since as you said, you're all volunteers) but rather we should talk about possible solutions. I do realize now that I failed completely to communicate the actual intent of the email and perhaps didn't choose the best of the wording, for which I'm sorry. > 2016/3/1 - Accept the explain, note will change to paypal method ( but > not give information ) I actually did send Kat a paypal request immediately after but was not informed then that that is not good enough. The last I heard from travel-committee at this time was that travel-committee will follow-up with Rosanna. So I kept on waiting.. > 2016/3/3 - Zeeshan - Ask reibursement status > > 2016/3/3 - Travel Committee - Reply to zeeshan, not receive paypal > information from zeeshan so Rosanna can’t pay via payal method > > 2016/3/3 - Zeeshan - Provide paypal account information > > 2016/3/10 - Zeeshan - Ask reimbursement status again and send to > foundation-list mail Actually there were 6 days between these two events. My mail to foundation-list was on 2016/3/16. > 2016/3/10 - Travel Committee - Notify Zeeshan already in reimbursement > queue This didn't happen so since I had not received any reply for two weeks, I got very frustrated. -- Regards, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) Befriend GNOME: http://www.gnome.org/friends/ ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Travel committee disfunctional?
On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 6:31 PM, Alberto Ruiz wrote: > Zeeshan, Alberto, > I understand your frustration, I like to believe people mean well and I think you do too in here but sorry I don't feel that you understand my frustration, reading through the rest of your reply. You completely focused on my email and showing how it's not constructive at all, instead of suggesting any solution to the actual problem. > but how would you feel if you were one of the volunteers throwing as much > spare time as you have to help in the committee and you read your email (or > even just the subject, which I find discouraging enough)? how would you feel > if you were thinking about becoming a volunteer on this or some other > committee/group within GNOME and saw this kind of negative feedback thrown? > Do you think your email is particularly encouraging? 1. Soon after sending this email, I immediately started to get replies to my emails from one member of the travel committee and was informed of the status of my reimbursement So yes, this seems to have been not entirely futile. 2. I did not mean this to be a insulting email but more like bringing up an issue. If my choice of words wasn't the best, I do apologise. > We must be rather careful with words towards people making an extra effort > outside of their work/"normal" life to help run this community. This sort of > problem is normal in any volunteer based organization, which you should know > by now, and your email doesn't quite point things towards any particular > solution. What are we (the foundation members) supposed to do with your > email? Unleash some sort of imaginary whip towards the travel committee? I'm > pretty sure they're doing their best. Like many people here suggested, a solution could be for more people on the committee. If that's the case, I'd like to volunteer (though I'm guessing this is the not the right place for that). P.S. Please note that the actual re-reimbursement process being slow is not what I was getting frustrated about but rather the complete lack of communication from the committee for weeks in a row despite weekly reminders and having no idea about when I'll be reimbursed. -- Regards, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) Befriend GNOME: http://www.gnome.org/friends/ ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Travel committee disfunctional?
Hi everyone, I'm sorry to bring this up but it seems to me that travel-committee members do not have time for doing their job in a timely manner. I say this cause it's now been several weeks that I applied for FOSDEM re-reimbursement but have not yet received it. Soon after the conference I was informed that I need to blog about the events and I did that as soon as I could, even though I was ill, assuming that would mean me getting reimbursed sooner. After a few weeks of waiting and regular reminders, I was asked if I would rather want to be reimbursed to paypal instead and it's been two weeks since I provided my paypal details now. I pinged the travel-committee list a few times since then but I have got no response at all. I understand that travel-committee is composed of volunteers and they could get real busy with their work and life but if people have to spend a lot of time on getting the committee members to do their jobs, I think we have a problem and we need to talk about it. -- Regards, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) Befriend GNOME: http://www.gnome.org/friends/ ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: [Builder] Developer experience (DX) hackfest 2016
Hi, On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 6:28 AM, Richard Stallman wrote: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > Jitsi works fine for meetings. All each participant needs is > to visit a given URL; it could hardly be easier. FWIW, I just tested this here with help from Lasse Schuirmann and and Jakub Steiner. For me and Lasse, it worked like a charm, out of the box (actually better first time experience than with Google hangout since you are not asked to download/install some packages). However, Jakub had some issues getting video to work and then some problem with mic as well but IIUC, it was to do with his special hardware not being properly supported by drivers. > I thought we were looking for one-way streaming to a lot of people, > not for a meeting. But I could have misunderstood that. It's a hackfest, so while the primary objective is one-way communication, it would be very much desirable IMO for remote participants to be able to talk with us. -- Regards, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) Befriend GNOME: http://www.gnome.org/friends/ ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: FOSDEM Desktops DevRoom 2016 Call for Participation
Hi, On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 9:21 PM, Alexandre Franke wrote: > On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 7:55 PM, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) > wrote: >> Yeah I understand that but I'm wondering if they could be persuaded >> not to treat all applying projects equally and give more room and time >> to projects that are more popular/bigger. I didn't want to say bad of >> any projects in particular here but I feel I have to give an example, >> to make my point so I'll mention one that I actually love: Guile. >> Given that there is a handful of people who use Guile (or even Scheme >> in general), I really don't see why it should be given the same amount >> of room/time as GNOME and KDE. > > We were also allocated a single table instead of the usual two we get > to make room for more projects. See it this way: the ones you call > bigger projects usually have the means to hold at least one yearly > conference on their own. The smaller ones don't get to meet that > often. Also they really need the exposure FOSDEM provides them, and as > you say the bigger projects are already popular. If the Guile people > don't have a talk at FOSDEM, where would they have it? I'm not saying that those projects should not get any exposure. Such projects could be put in the same room and 1-2 talks per project would suffice IMO. I don't think all popular-enough projects have their own conferences but yeah I see your point there. -- Regards, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) Befriend GNOME: http://www.gnome.org/friends/ ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: FOSDEM Desktops DevRoom 2016 Call for Participation
On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 5:28 PM, Christophe Fergeau wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, Dec 08, 2015 at 01:45:59PM +, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) wrote: >> Hi Christophe, >> >> While I greatly appreciate your (and of everyone involved) voluntary >> work on organising the devroom, I really wish we did not put all these >> big projects into one devroom for just one day. Is there any way we >> could get GNOME its own devroom (even for a day) in FOSDEM 2017? > > Given the amount of projects asking for devrooms, I suspect this is > going to be hard. The FOSDEM organizers asked us to merge the devrooms > for a reason. We already only have this shared devroom only for a day. Yeah I understand that but I'm wondering if they could be persuaded not to treat all applying projects equally and give more room and time to projects that are more popular/bigger. I didn't want to say bad of any projects in particular here but I feel I have to give an example, to make my point so I'll mention one that I actually love: Guile. Given that there is a handful of people who use Guile (or even Scheme in general), I really don't see why it should be given the same amount of room/time as GNOME and KDE. -- Regards, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) Befriend GNOME: http://www.gnome.org/friends/ ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: FOSDEM Desktops DevRoom 2016 Call for Participation
>> >> The Desktops DevRoom 2016 is managed by a team representing the most >> notable open desktops: >> >> >>- Pau Garcia i Quiles, KDE >> >>- Christophe Fergeau, Gnome >> >>- Michael Zanetti, Unity >> >>- Philippe Caseiro, Enlightenment >> >>- Jérome Leclanche, Razor >> >> >> If you want to join the team, please contact pgquiles at elpauer dot org > > > >> ___ >> desktop-devel-list mailing list >> desktop-devel-l...@gnome.org >> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list > > > ___ > foundation-list mailing list > foundation-list@gnome.org > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list > -- Regards, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) Befriend GNOME: http://www.gnome.org/friends/ ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Foundation Membership status verification
On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 4:41 PM, Alexandre Franke wrote: > On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 5:33 PM, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) > wrote: >> Hi, > > Hey, > >> I don't even remember/know whats my username. > > Did you try your GNOME email alias? Thanks. yeah that is it. I better drink more tea. :) -- Regards, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) Befriend GNOME: http://www.gnome.org/friends/ ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Foundation Membership status verification
Hi, On Sun, May 17, 2015 at 5:38 PM, Andrea Veri wrote: > Hey, > > GNOME Foundation Board of Directors elections are approaching and I > would like to take the time to remind everyone to look at the status > of the membership at [1] and [2] (only Foundation members can vote on > elections, not Emeritus members). The specific field you should be > looking at is the "Last Renewed on date". If the date specified there > (in the form of -MM-DD) is older than two years (the duration of > the membership as per bylaws) you should get in touch with the > Membership Committee [3] ASAP. If the "Last Renewed on date" and > "Foundation member since" fields are empty but you are confident you > were a member before please let us know. > > If you are unable to access your account please try to reset your > password as explained at point 5. under "Requesting" [4]. If that > won't work please get in touch with the Accounts Team [5] instead. I don't even remember/know whats my username. -- Regards, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) Befriend GNOME: http://www.gnome.org/friends/ ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: OPW; Where does the 500$ for each GSoC goes?
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 3:16 PM, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: > hi; > > On 16 September 2014 14:22, Sébastien Wilmet wrote: > >> Philip said for example: > > Philip has scarcely any idea about any of this stuff, as he already > demonstrated plenty of times, couple with an overinflated sense of his > importance and contributions. > >> My issue with gnome is that it wants to hate trying to help the >>(european) commercial world >> gtk+ didn't really help the maemo-gtk+ stuff >> That as a result meant that meego-harmattan got qt based >> That's history, of course. But we did try hard to convince people >> at >>redhat like mclasen of the necessity to cooperate with nokia back >> then >> Yes we did > > that's, quite frankly, a fairly sizable pile of bull. > > Philip has absolutely no clue whatsoever about most of the decisions > that went behind the transitions from Maemo to Qt. As a person who was a full-time employee at Maemo during that time, I can testify to that. *If* there was any technical reasons (there weren't really), it was C vs. C++. The most important fact to keep in mind here is that decision to go for Qt was not made by Maemo side of Nokia. Keeping that in mind, I don't see any exaggeration in Emmanuele's statement above. -- Regards, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) Befriend GNOME: http://www.gnome.org/friends/ ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Minutes of the Board meeting of July 25th, 2014
On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 6:57 PM, Sindhu S wrote: > On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 8:49 PM, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) > wrote: > >> Oh your visa was rejected? Really sorry to hear, having been there >> myself. Did they give any reasons? > > Why are you being sarcastic? You are very well aware of the issue and > incidents preceding it. > This was your previous mail to the list > https://mail.gnome.org/archives/foundation-list/2014-April/msg00106.html. No, I don't read every mail, sorry. > Please refrain from this kinda of behaviour, its not helping me or the > community in anyway. That was a sincere question and I actually have gone through a fair bit of visa issues. I don't know what to say but remind you of "Assume people mean well" part of our code of conduct: https://wiki.gnome.org/action/show/Foundation/CodeOfConduct -- Regards, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) Befriend GNOME: http://www.gnome.org/friends/ ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Minutes of the Board meeting of July 25th, 2014
Hi Sindhu, On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Sindhu S wrote: > So what's the final consensus on the reimbursement of rejected visas? Oh your visa was rejected? Really sorry to hear, having been there myself. Did they give any reasons? Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) Befriend GNOME: http://www.gnome.org/friends/ ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Board of Directors Elections 2014 - Candidacy - Karen Sandler
Hi Karen, On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 9:36 AM, Oliver Propst wrote: > On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 4:14 PM, Karen Sandler wrote: >> Affiliation: Software Freedom Conservancy. I'm also pro bono General Counsel >> of QuestionCopyright.Org, and an advisor of The Ada Initiative and sometimes >> help other orgs (like the FSF) on legal and other free software related >> matters. > >> As promised when I left the position of Executive Director, I'd like to >> throw my hat in the ring for the Board of Directors. I think I can help >> bring continuity to the board (Stormy was incredibly helpful on the board >> when I started as ED). Also, as a lawyer I sometimes have an additionally >> useful perspective. I'm still doing volunteer work for GNOME both as pro >> bono counsel and as a volunteer on nonlegal matters for GNOME. I've been >> helping with fundraising, collecting on outstanding invoices and generally >> wherever I can. > You are a very busy person with many responsibilities, if you get > elected to the Board do you feel confident that you can spend the > necessary time on Board work? While I think you do a lot for Free Software and your passion and work inspires many, I'm afraid I do share Oliver's concern here. -- Regards, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) Befriend GNOME: http://www.gnome.org/friends/ ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Minutes of the Board meeting of March 25th, 2014
On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 7:38 PM, Hashem Nasarat wrote: > In regards to this issue: I hope the board, to stymie discontent & > demonstrate equity, will settle on an equal solution for both Diego and > Sindhu, both outstanding members of our community. > > With that said I really don't care to argue, but since nobody else has > called you out: nitpicks below & inline. Really? Sri and Sindhu already replied. There really was no need to retatiate with a message full of sarcasm and insults. My intention was only to defend the board but since a board member himself thought that I'm wrong here, I decided to rest my case. Since you asked, I will reply in private to address your valid points about OPW. -- Regards, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) Befriend GNOME: http://www.gnome.org/friends/ ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Minutes of the Board meeting of March 25th, 2014
On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 2:41 AM, meg ford wrote: > Hi Zeeshan, > > On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 10:10 AM, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) > wrote: >> >> Since visa process is not in the hands of the board, I think any help >> that board offers is a big favour so IMO what is unfair here is for >> you to complain for not getting a favour while another person did. I'm >> a bit sad to hear this from an ex-OPW participant as OPW is itself an >> unfair[1] advantage and you were one of the people to get that. If it >> makes you feel better, Diego will not get that favour. > > > This comment was orthogonal to the discussion, and as a former OPW intern I > found it to be discouraging. It really should not be. Did you see my footnote to this comment? If you did, Its here: >> [1] Don't get me wrong, being a big supporter of OPW, I understand the >> rationale for being unfair and in fact thats my point. Feel free to contact me in private if you want me to expand on that since you yourself pointed out, this discussion is orthogonal to the thread. -- Regards, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) Befriend GNOME: http://www.gnome.org/friends/ ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Minutes of the Board meeting of March 25th, 2014
On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 5:25 PM, Sindhu S wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 9:29 PM, Marina Zhurakhinskaya > wrote: >> >> This was done because Diego e-mailed the board with a special request and >> the majority of directors felt that it was reasonable to reimburse for visa >> expenses, when we will not be reimbursing for a larger amount we earlier >> approved that would be needed for the person to make the trip. > > > I approached the board too. My visa expenses didn't exceed the sponsorship > approved either. The email was sent to bo...@gnome.org and here's a > screenshot: > http://i.imgur.com/FivZRwB.png. Why didn't the rest of the board respond > then? > >> >> As you can see, this reimbursement was done by a separate vote as an >> exception to the current rule. >> >> I'm sorry an exception or a policy review were not considered when you >> were denied a visa. As you can see, the board also decided we should discuss >> amending the policy about reimbursement for rejected visas in the future. > > > What is so special about Diego that his situation has provoked a policy > change? Aren't you presuming that it was only because of Diego's case that board wants to rethink its policy and that your (and other people's) case wasn't part of the push to make them rethink? > Why was the reimbursement policies upheld in my case and relaxed in > his? > The current situation on GNOME's financials was very much made public and in > between being low on cash, how is that board can make such an exception? If you follow those threads carefully, you'd realize that it was not the case of 'low on cash'. > If the board is going to make a policy change, then please bring it into > working *first* and then entertain cases that occur after it not before. > Otherwise it's just plain unfair. Since visa process is not in the hands of the board, I think any help that board offers is a big favour so IMO what is unfair here is for you to complain for not getting a favour while another person did. I'm a bit sad to hear this from an ex-OPW participant as OPW is itself an unfair[1] advantage and you were one of the people to get that. If it makes you feel better, Diego will not get that favour. -- Regards, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) Befriend GNOME: http://www.gnome.org/friends/ [1] Don't get me wrong, being a big supporter of OPW, I understand the rationale for being unfair and in fact thats my point. ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: GNOME Foundation Board candidacy: Emmanuele Bassi
Hi Emmanuele, On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Emmanuele Bassi wrote: > name: Emmanuele Bassi > email: ebassi (at) gnome.com > affiliation: Endless Mobile > > I have been a GNOME contributor for the past 10 years, and served as > secreatry on the board of directors for the past two years. Same question as for Seif: Could you kindly provide a brief summary of your work/contributions as board member in the past year? It would greatly help the members in deciding to vote for you. > I would love to continue serving as secretary on the board; I want to > help facilitating the communications between teams, contributors, > adboard members, ISVs that wish to target GNOME, as well as OSVs that > wish to use GNOME as their platform of choice for their products. > > ciao, > Emmanuele. -- Regards, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) FSF member#5124 ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: GNOME Foundation Board candidacy: Seif Lotfy
Hi Seif, On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 2:51 AM, seiflo...@googlemail.com wrote: > Name: Seif Lotfy > Email: seiflotfy (at) gmail.com > Affiliation: None > > I have been a GNOME contributor since 2007. And served on the board of > directors the past year. Could you kindly provide a brief summary of your work/contributions as board member in the past year? It would greatly help the members in deciding to vote for you. -- Regards, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) FSF member#5124 ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Could a few influential GNOME develoers join gnu-prog-disc...@gnu.org?
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 8:32 PM, Michael Hasselmann
wrote:
> On Wed, 2012-01-18 at 18:25 +0100, Johannes Schmid wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>> > A GNOME developer in the list would have seen this and could have
>> > responded, raises the issue in the appropriate GNOME list, or whatever
>> > is TRT. It isn't feasible for me, and I don't know who to ask.
>>
>> No, that's not how the world works!
>>
>> The person asking should have brought it up on a GNOME (or in this case
>> xdg) mailing list. This is how things work - you complain to the people
>> responsible instead of waiting for someone to magically speak up.
>
> To me it seems that we're ignoring this:
> "GNOME is proud to be a part of the GNU Project." (from
> gnome.org/about).
>
> So by extension, a GNU mailing list is the perfect place to discuss
> matters that also affect GNOME.
>
> The rejective attitude towards joining a GNU mailing list that I see
> here should then result in GNOME leaving the GNU project. Then above
> statement can be removed from the website.
>
> I know this is an old flamebait, but if no one here who is still active
> ("influential") in GNOME is openly pro-GNU, then it's time to openly
> admit that.
How did you derive "I am not pro-GNU" from "I dont want to join the
GNU mailing-list"? If you ever need an example of GNOME hacker who is
very pro-GNU, you should talk to Andy Wingo. :)
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Re: pvanhoof issue (was: GNOME: lack of strategic roadmap)
Hi, On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 7:42 PM, Dodji Seketeli wrote: > Le dim. 28 févr. 2010 à 19:20:39 (+0200), Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) a écrit: >> Thanks for your clarification. Thing is that Philip had been using >> the word 'we' quite a lot in the recent endless discussions as part of >> his crusade to draw a thick border between Free Software and GNOME[1]. >> I didn't complain so far because it wasn't always 100% clear if he >> means 'all GNOME developers' by 'we' until now where he made it >> perfectly clear. >> >> Now that that is sorted out, I would like the foundation to forbid >> him from doing so in future. Once that is done, I can live a happy >> life by joining the ever growing 'just put pvanhoof on your ignore >> list on IRC and email' group. > > I feel your pain, Zeeshan, seriously. But FWIW I tend to be against that > sort of police on foundation-list, even though I agree that would give a > break to people like you and me. Me too! Please keep in mind that I am not suggesting any actions against Philip or anyone. All I want is for him to stop saying anything on my behalf. Other than that, he can do or say whatever he wants. > So yeah, I am part of the club you mentionned above, but just for IRC. > Maybe I should just go ahead and do the same for email. Why am I not surprised. :) -- Regards, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) FSF member#5124 ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: GNOME: lack of strategic roadmap
Hi, On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Richard Stallman wrote: > So say we all! Unfortunately, I don't see any free (or even close) > alternatives out there. The closest I can find are some local social > networking websites[1] but they've traditionally concentrated on > localization rather than internationalization. > > Social networking sites are not the only way to announce events. > People do this also with email. > > Perhaps with a little thought we can define a spec for how to include > the details of an event in a message in an easy-to-parse way, and > encourage people to use that rather than facebook. If by 'people' you mean people like you and me, sure! this has a very good chance of success. However, I doubt you meant that. Here is how I know this has very little chances of success: I personally know many people who prefer facebook messages over email and I am not talking about events or other messages but just plain messages to friends. A solution that IMHO has much better chances of success is to create a free alternative to facebook. However, who is going to do it and more importantly who is going to pay for this effort? :( -- Regards, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) FSF member#5124 ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: pvanhoof issue (was: GNOME: lack of strategic roadmap)
Hi, On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 5:31 AM, Jonathon Jongsma wrote: > On Sun, 2010-02-28 at 03:11 +0100, Philip Van Hoof wrote: >> On Sun, 2010-02-28 at 04:02 +0200, Zeeshan Ali wrote: >> > Hi everyone, >> > >> > > I don't think we need ethics-teachings about this. We GNOME >> > programmers know. We do. >> > >> > I can't say for others but I for one find it extremely insulting when >> > Mr. Van Hoof represent me without my concent. I really want to know >> > who in the the hell made him the GNOME developers' representative and >> > be able to tell others what I know and need? >> >> Saying that we don't need lessons morality is "extremely insulting" to >> you? > > I think you know perfectly well what Zeeshan is objecting to, despite > your feigned incredulity above. You repeatedly post imflammatory things > and try to pick fights with Richard Stallman and the FSF, and then you > act as if you're speaking for GNOME developers when the predictable > argument begins. I for one have basically stopped reading most > foundation-list threads because you insist on dragging every single > conversation down into the mud. Thanks for your clarification. Thing is that Philip had been using the word 'we' quite a lot in the recent endless discussions as part of his crusade to draw a thick border between Free Software and GNOME[1]. I didn't complain so far because it wasn't always 100% clear if he means 'all GNOME developers' by 'we' until now where he made it perfectly clear. Now that that is sorted out, I would like the foundation to forbid him from doing so in future. Once that is done, I can live a happy life by joining the ever growing 'just put pvanhoof on your ignore list on IRC and email' group. -- Regards, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) FSF member#5124 [1] Which I believe is doomed to fail since GNOME started as an effort to create a completely free (as in freedom) desktop environment and despite all efforts from Philip & Lefty we have yet to see any compelling reason to change that definition. ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
pvanhoof issue (was: GNOME: lack of strategic roadmap)
Hi everyone, > I don't think we need ethics-teachings about this. We GNOME programmers > know. We do. I can't say for others but I for one find it extremely insulting when Mr. Van Hoof represent me without my concent. I really want to know who in the the hell made him the GNOME developers' representative and be able to tell others what I know and need? -- Regards Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) Sent from Nokia N900___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: FOSDEM Report
Hi, On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 4:23 PM, Vincent Untz wrote: > Hi, Hi Vincent, > The GNOME presence at FOSDEM this year was quite good, and I believe > things went (surprisingly ;-)) smoothly: Thanks for the nice summary. :) > + the beer event on Saturday evening was a good place to catch up with > GNOME friends. While that event is always awesome due to many GNOME developers socializing but I couldn't help notice that there is always some people missing in there. Whenever I've asked the missing people, they complain about Claustrophobic atmosphere of the bar we do this. So just one suggestion: Could we please do it some other place next year? -- Regards, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) FSF member#5124 ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: GNOME: lack of strategic roadmap
Hi, >> It is also important to give equally good support to other systems >> people can use for telling each other about events; for instance, >> social networking sites of the free software community, and >> peer-to-peer methods. This way, GNOME won't favor Facebook over those >> other methods. >> > > I'm sure most of us agree to that. Don't worry ;). So say we all! Unfortunately, I don't see any free (or even close) alternatives out there. The closest I can find are some local social networking websites[1] but they've traditionally concentrated on localization rather than internationalization. This policy did help them succeed in the countries they operated in and/or targeted but only until facebook became widespread. They failed to compete against this new service that offered the same features they offered but attracted users from all over the world. -- Regards, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) FSF member#5124 [1] http://irc-galleria.net/ ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: "Private Foundation-List" Petition for referendum
Hi, On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Philip Van Hoof wrote: > ps. The rest is off topic. It's a bit silly that yet another off topic > thread is starting. Richard, the topic is Behdad's call for a vote. Not > your ethical believe system. No matter how important you think that is. > > People who want to reply to this part: consider taking it private. I agree but I think you can set a better example by not yourself getting into the debate and explaining in great details (mostly irrelevant) about the open-source and it is all about ethics and morality. Are you in some way special? -- Regards, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) FSF member#5124 ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Code of Conduct and Foundation membership
Hi, On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 11:49 PM, Dave Neary wrote: > Hi, > > Lefty wrote: >> Given the proposition that proprietary software is "illegitimate", and >> the statement above, do you believe that the GNOME Foundation and >> community should distance itself from companies which produce proprietary >> software? >> >> Specifically, should the Advisory Board be dissolved, and should the >> Foundation refuse further financial support from the companies that >> are currently on the Ad Board? > > I for one am interested in Richard's position on this. Mine is clear: I have > no problem at all working with companies who want to improve GNOME or the > GNOME platform, even if they develop proprietary software. And the money they > give to GNOME gets used to improve GNOME, so as long as there are no strings > attached, I don't care particularly why they give it. > > On the other hand, I feel under no obligation to promote their non-free > software offerings, or guilt in encouraging free equivalents of their > proprietary components & products. I fee like you took thoughts out of my mind but unlike me were able to express them very nicely. :) -- Regards, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) FSF member#5124 ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: foundation-list Digest, Vol 68, Issue 13
Hi, On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 2:26 AM, Philip Van Hoof wrote: >> GNOME, both as a community and as a foundation, should teach the good >> examples and critic the bad ones. > > GNOME should stick to teaching the good examples. Criticizing the bad > ones is only counter productive. Just curious, shouldn't you be thinking the same way when posting pictures of flying spaghetti monster on your blog? -- Regards, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) FSF member#5124 ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: GNOME DVCS Survey Results
On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 11:47 PM, Luca Ferretti wrote: > Il giorno dom, 04/01/2009 alle 16.11 -0500, Matthias Clasen ha scritto: > >> It seems pretty clear to me that any 'homegrown' system like this is >> not suitable as a longterm, stable solution for a project the size of >> gnome. > > BTW, once switched to DVCS, how much disk space I should have in order > to perform a full GNOME Desktop build with jhbuild? A WebKit build from > git needs ~740MB :-/ How much does it consume if it's a svn checkout? I heard (don't know if it's true or not) git repo usually takes less diskspace then svn checkout. This page seems to support this claim: http://git.or.cz/gitwiki/GitSvnComparsion "An SVN working directory always contains two copies of each file: one for the user to actually work with and another hidden in .svn/ to aid operations such as status, diff and commit. In contrast a Git working directory requires only one small index file that stores about 100 bytes of data per tracked file. On projects with a large number of files this can be a substantial difference in the disk space required per working copy." -- Regards, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) FSF member#5124 ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: GNOME DVCS Survey Results
Hi! On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 6:06 PM, Olav Vitters wrote: > On Sun, Jan 04, 2009 at 09:40:33AM -0600, Jason D. Clinton wrote: >> On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 8:51 AM, Olav Vitters wrote: >> Moving will not be easy, obviously. But doing it John's way will be, >> in my technical analysis, an order of magnitude more painful. > > His way is a solution I expect to be implemented in 2009. No matter how good that sounds, it's still not a "solution", it's a workaround to the problem that we don't have (human) resources to do a move to git. > To be honest, > I really wonder if something else would happen that I'd qualify as a > good switch. How about we set-up a task-force of volunteers who would want to help in the move, each volunteer promising at least 3 hours a week? 3 hours is a very small amount of time but I am hoping that we'll be able to gather at least 10 volunteers and together we can do it, even using our spare time. In any case, after looking at the results of the survey we should only look at hybrid/dual proposal like John's when we don't find any way of moving to git in a reasonable amount of time (< 6 months). -- Regards, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) FSF member#5124 ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: GNOME DVCS Survey Results
Hi! First of all, thanks a millions to Behdad and Elijah for taking up this task and congrats for managing to accomplish it so effectively. On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Jason D. Clinton wrote: > On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 2:43 AM, Karl Lattimer wrote: >> I'd like to remind people of John Carr's recent blog post too, someone >> mentioned in the survey results actually. JC has been working on bzr with >> git protocol support, which would fulfil many of the requirements for having >> a GNOME DVCS. >> > > I'd like to point out that--of the 15 people who regularly use git and > bzr--git still won. > <http://www.gnome.org/~shaunm/survey/first-picks-permutations.png> It > seems to me that a lot of brain power, sysadmin time, and general > proliferation of Things To Learn for New People(tm) can be saved if > the six people (1.04% of respondents) who ranked bzr above git in that > graph can just bite the bullet and admit that git won. Can we please > just all move on? > > My fear is that this effort to keep bzr on life support will cause bzr > to show up as a requirement in distcheck for modules maintained by > people who are still holding out. So say we all (?) but now is the problem of who will do the move to git? Last I checked, nobody except for Federico volunteered for that and IIRC he is going to do this using his "spare time" which we all know might not be enough for such a big task. I hope I am wrong about this and we do have enough resources to do the move but in case I am right, I think we should seriously consider John's idea. -- Regards, Zeeshan Ali (Khattak) FSF member#5124 ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Some Finnish thoughts of Guadec+aKademy 2009
Hi everyone! On Sun, Jul 6, 2008 at 10:55 AM, Petri Räsänen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Questions to ask are > (1) where is Free Software in most need of support? > > The community-building card has been the defining factor for France vs > UK for example. But I didn't expect to see it played by Finland or > Spain bids, given how integrated Nokia and Igalia are in the GNOME > ecosystem. Gran Canaria on the other hand... ;). > > Although Nokia is an active player, we got to remember that it is not the > whole community even here. > There are signals that there is a new generation of hackers growing in the > universities etc at the moment, and currently they often have no direct > connections with the corporate world, Nokia or others. For them this event > would be a great opportunity to get involved in the community. And vice > versa; New blood, new drive! Before the board(s) make the decision I must remind them that this is a very important point. During my stay in Finland for the past 3 years I've observed that there is a big amount of extremely talented potential contributors in Finland who don't just have any motivation to contribute and therefore do not. We could blame the Finnish culture for that :) but lets not getting into blame game and keep in mind that such conferences would be great opportunities for motivating these contributors to contribute as they'll be able to get to know of practical benefits of working with/for community in these conferences. -- Regards, Zeeshan Ali Khattak FSF member#5124 ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Akademy+GUADEC *2009* Hosting Proposals
Yo! >>Regarding food and beer, Quim said it better than I could have but >> just wanted to remind you that you have to *buy* your water in Spain >> and when it's warm you drink lots of it and when you are hung-over >> everyday you must drink even more. :) In Finland you can just drink >> from the tap and save the money for the beer, which as Quim pointed >> out will not be expensive. > > I would assume that it's fine to drink the tap water in the canaries > just fine. But I might be mistaken. I'll be surprised if that is the case since I've been on Tenerife and it wasn't possible in there. -- Regards, Zeeshan Ali Khattak FSF member#5124 ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Akademy+GUADEC *2009* Hosting Proposals
Hi guys! > On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 6:30 PM, Lennart Poettering <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Are there even any direct flights to Tampere, except from HEL? You are kidding me right? :) You haven't heard of the wonders of Ryanair and you are against Tampere bid? :) Regarding food and beer, Quim said it better than I could have but just wanted to remind you that you have to *buy* your water in Spain and when it's warm you drink lots of it and when you are hung-over everyday you must drink even more. :) In Finland you can just drink from the tap and save the money for the beer, which as Quim pointed out will not be expensive. -- Regards, Zeeshan Ali Khattak FSF member#5124 ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Akademy+GUADEC *2009* Hosting Proposals
Hello! If my vote counts, I'll vote for Finand because: 1. I live here. :) 2. GUADEC has happened in Spain twice already and it has never happened in Finland. AFAIK Akademy has never happened in Finland before either right?. 3. Not many GNOMEs have every been to Finland but that is not true about Spain. -- Regards, Zeeshan Ali Khattak FSF member#5124 ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Git vs SVN (was: Can we improve things?)
Hi! Was hard to sleep last night after i sent my last message so i must clarify something before i attempt to answer anyone's reply: > You need to look at it a bit objectively. Linus says "you are stupid > and ugly" because you truly are stupid if you prefer to use SVN or any > centralized SCM and he clearly points out most of the reason why this > it the honest truth. *I* am not calling anyone stupid, it was Linus and I only quoted. Still i am sorry i did that, guess i just got taken away.. -- Regards, Zeeshan Ali FSF member#5124 ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Git vs SVN (was: Can we improve things?)
Hi! On 9/7/07, Olav Vitters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Sep 07, 2007 at 11:57:19AM +0300, Zeeshan Ali wrote: > >About the svn access, all centralized VCS's are meant for > > dictatorships. If the gnome foundation really wants to improve the > > situation, i recommend moving to git or some other non-distributed VCS > > instead of brain-dead centralized svn for the following reason: > > This will take 12x longer than fixing the problem. We'll end up with a > workaround (as someone still finally has to commit). How come? The developer with write-access to the main repo (who is acting as the proxy) would get the commits pushed to his repo from the other developer and he would just push them upstream along with his commits. As me and Kalle tried to point out, with git you have a lot of freedom to do things in many different ways, which isn't true about SVN. > Finally, people can > already use a D-SCM together with SVN (git/bzr/.. support SVN). So if > D-SCM would solve things, there wouldn't be an issue currently. As I mentioned in one of my previous emails, the problem would have been far too small to make a big fuss about it if either A. it was a matter of a git repo instead of an SVN repo or B. the proxy developer and the developer needing write access, had decided to use git together with git-svn at their end. > > 1. Developers can clone the main repo and the maintainers (people with > > write-access) can just pull from their cloned repos. This way a > > developer won't really need write access and he'll just keep on > > committing his changes to his repo and inform the maintainer(s) about > > his newest cool changes and the maintainer(s) can pull those changes > > if they like/need them. > > I call that a workaround. The problem is the access to the main repos. > If the maintainer doesn't pull from every developer you end up with the > same problem. At one point someone needs to do something (give access to > something / pull). The developer doesn't necessarily need to 'pull'. What you are addressing is just one of the many ways things can operate when Git is being used. Please read above. I mentioned at least two different modes of operation which are not mutually exclusive. > > 2. #1 is a generic advantage of using a non-distributed VCS but the > > reason i would go for git is speed: it's amazingly super fast in all > > it's operations and will save a lot of precious developer time. > > You are ignoring the drawbacks and that it won't solve this issue. For example? > I am all for D-SCM, but it is not a hammer. That might be but they are much better than centralized SCMs, at least git is quite obviously superior to SVN. > > 3. No need to maintain two levels of changelog. > > That is not true. The ChangeLog requirement has been discussed before. > Suggest to read the archives for that discussion (here / d-d-l). I searched the archive and topics of the mails i found, didn't seem relevant so it would be nice if you either provide me a link to the thread or summarize the conclusion. We are using SVN so ChangeLog requirement obviously makes sense but I can't imagine it making any sense at all in D-SCMs especially git since i can always get the changelog using `git log`. > > For details on why a good and > > self-respecting developer wouldn't ever consider using svn over git, > > you have to watch this presentation by Linus: > > http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2199332044603874737 . > > Last time I watched this it only talked about the benefits of a > distributed SCM vs non-distributed SCM. Further, the style of presenting > is very flame-ish. It only serves as advocacy to perhaps try some other > D-SCM. You need to look at it a bit objectively. Linus says "you are stupid and ugly" because you truly are stupid if you prefer to use SVN or any centralized SCM and he clearly points out most of the reason why this it the honest truth. > Btw, generalising my arguments against git to 'sucky UI' is > a misrepresentation. I won't commit that mistake but i didn't really see any other convincing argument either. :) -- Regards, Zeeshan Ali FSF member#5124 ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Can we improve things?
Hi! On 9/7/07, Jeff Waugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Jeff replied to him? 1 month is nothing, I had to wait for 1.5 years to > > get my blog syndicated to p.g.o and it's been months now that i have been > > asking him to put my picture there. > > I received a mail from you on 2006-05-09 which I replied to, but didn't hear > back. I ended up adding you regardless during a post-travel sweep of Planet > requests. I got the hackergotchi mail on 2007-04-30 and replied a week or so > later with suggestions about it. I haven't received a new one, so you still > don't have a hackergotchi on Planet GNOME. I'm sorry, but I can't go chasing > after people for this stuff. You did reply to me? I NEVER EVER recieved any reply from you except for this one of course. It might be that gmail considered your mail as spam and it never caught my eye and I am extremely sorry if that is that case, can you please send me (not to the ml) a mail so i can check it out? -- Regards, Zeeshan Ali FSF member#5124 ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Can we improve things?
Hi! > That being said, I can't help but notice that svn itself isn't the cause > of the problem : Maybe not in this case, but there wouldn't have been a problem (at least not a big one) in the first place if this was a matter of write-access to the git-repo as Damien would have just given Matthias write-access to his cloned repo and both guys would have lived happily ever after. Thinking of which, they can still achieve this using git-svn. -- Regards, Zeeshan Ali FSF member#5124 ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: Can we improve things?
Hi! On 9/7/07, Damien Sandras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When I think to Julien, I am also getting mad. > He has been contributing to Ekiga for 5 years. He recently created a > blog and asked to Jeff to be added on planet.gnome.org. He was first > ignored, then Jeff told him that he had to post often to be added. > One day later, another guy was added to planet.gnome.org with 3 posts > having been done in a 6 months period. That is what I call dictatorship > and boycott of my project. Jeff replied to him? 1 month is nothing, I had to wait for 1.5 years to get my blog syndicated to p.g.o and it's been months now that i have been asking him to put my picture there. About the svn access, all centralized VCS's are meant for dictatorships. If the gnome foundation really wants to improve the situation, i recommend moving to git or some other non-distributed VCS instead of brain-dead centralized svn for the following reason: 1. Developers can clone the main repo and the maintainers (people with write-access) can just pull from their cloned repos. This way a developer won't really need write access and he'll just keep on committing his changes to his repo and inform the maintainer(s) about his newest cool changes and the maintainer(s) can pull those changes if they like/need them. 2. #1 is a generic advantage of using a non-distributed VCS but the reason i would go for git is speed: it's amazingly super fast in all it's operations and will save a lot of precious developer time. 3. No need to maintain two levels of changelog. So far the only arguments against git had been the sucky UI but that is no more true of git 1.5. For details on why a good and self-respecting developer wouldn't ever consider using svn over git, you have to watch this presentation by Linus: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2199332044603874737 . -- Regards, Zeeshan Ali FSF member#5124 ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: no confirmation received
Hey! > Sorry about it. I've talked to our administrator to improve this > situation. In the mean time, your package (plus every else's pending) > will be sent out tomorrow or early next week. No problem, now that something is being done about it. Thanks. -- Regards, Zeeshan Ali FSF member#5124 ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
Re: no confirmation received
Hello Behdad! On 8/1/07, Behdad Esfahbod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thanks for your contribution. Friends-of-GNOME payments are all > processed by our part-time administrator. Please give her a few days. How exactly "part-time" is this part-time admin? It's been a month now and benefits mentioned on friends webpage[1] aside, i haven't even received a confirmation. I hate to whine about a 50 bucks but a month is a long time. [1] http://www.gnome.org/friends/ -- Regards, Zeeshan Ali FSF member#5124 ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
no confirmation received
Hello people! I paid $50 yesterday morning to become a 'Benefactor' but so far i haven't received any email from the gnome foundation about it. Are you all on vacation at the same time? :) -- Regards, Zeeshan Ali FSF member#5124 ___ foundation-list mailing list foundation-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-list
