Re: Supporting GTK+

[Michael Catanzaro]

On Thu, 2016-01-21 at 11:58 +0300, Виталий wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I tested the example (example-0.c
>  ) on
> Windows 10 Enterprise (10240), but I get a runtime error 'Unspecified
> fatal
> error encountered, aborting.'. I'm using VS2015 IDE Update 1, and the
> stack
> (https://github.com/wingtk/gtk-win32/pull/18). Please let me know
> whether
> you're testing the latest release of the library GTK 3.18.6 stack on
> OS
> Windows 10. 

Hi,

You should send this question to gtk-l...@gnome.org

Good luck,

Michael
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Supporting GTK+

[Виталий]

Hi,

I tested the example (example-0.c
 ) on
Windows 10 Enterprise (10240), but I get a runtime error 'Unspecified fatal
error encountered, aborting.'. I'm using VS2015 IDE Update 1, and the stack
(https://github.com/wingtk/gtk-win32/pull/18). Please let me know whether
you're testing the latest release of the library GTK 3.18.6 stack on OS
Windows 10. 

 

Thanks

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Supporting GTK+

[Nicole Estefani Salinas Rojas]

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Re: Supporting GTK+

[Karen Sandler]

On Thu, July 4, 2013 4:06 pm, Martyn Russell wrote:
> On 07/01/2013 05:56 AM, Hu Zheng wrote:
>> Can your tell me your paypal account? I want to donate some money to gtk
>> project!
>
> As far as I am aware there is no PayPal account for the project
> specifically. AFAICS, your options are to either donate to the GNOME
> project or to the GIMP project - which is where GTK+ kind of started.
>
>> And, why not just list the paypal account at
>> http://www.gtk.org/development.php
>
> We would if we had one ;)
>
>> Thank you very much!
>
> Thank you for wanting to donate!
>
> If anyone else in the community has ideas around this, it would be
> interesting to hear.

The GNOME Foundation does fund travel and other expenses to support GTK+,
like for the GTK+ hackfest. So donating to GNOME would help with that :)

You can read about the last hackfest here:
https://wiki.gnome.org/Hackfests/GTK2013, which also links to blogposts
about the event  - thanks again to OLPC for providing the venue!

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Re: Supporting GTK+

[Martyn Russell]

On 07/01/2013 05:56 AM, Hu Zheng wrote:

Can your tell me your paypal account? I want to donate some money to gtk
project!


As far as I am aware there is no PayPal account for the project 
specifically. AFAICS, your options are to either donate to the GNOME 
project or to the GIMP project - which is where GTK+ kind of started.



And, why not just list the paypal account at
http://www.gtk.org/development.php


We would if we had one ;)


Thank you very much!


Thank you for wanting to donate!

If anyone else in the community has ideas around this, it would be 
interesting to hear.


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Supporting GTK+

[Hu Zheng]

Can your tell me your paypal account? I want to donate some money to gtk
project!

And, why not just list the paypal account at
http://www.gtk.org/development.php

Thank you very much!

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Re: Supporting GTK

[Sindhu S]

Hi, Wile!

This is not the forum to ask for help about GTK. Perhaps you could look
here: http://www.gtk.org/mailing-lists.php


On Sat, May 25, 2013 at 2:46 AM, WILE MARQUEZ  wrote:

> Hello everybody
> I need to contribute with source code
> I am a developer
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[WILE MARQUEZ]

Hello everybody
I need to contribute with source code
I am a developer
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Re: Supporting GTK+

[Shaun McCance]

On Tue, 2012-07-17 at 17:33 +, Gino Aielli wrote:
> Hi!
> 
>  
> 
> I am a staffing consultant and I am looking for a full-time GTK+
> resource to join a client of mine in Nevada. I know that the GTK
> community is very small, is there any way to spread the word among you
> blog readers?

Hi Gino,

The GTK+ web site has a listing of consultancies that can help
with GTK+ development here:

http://www.gtk.org/support.php

And according to this page:

https://mail.gnome.org/

job postings are allowed on gtk-l...@gnome.org as long as they
are directly related to GTK+ and the subject is clearly marked
as a job posting.

Hope that helps.

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Supporting GTK+

[Gino Aielli]

Hi!

I am a staffing consultant and I am looking for a full-time GTK+ resource to 
join a client of mine in Nevada. I know that the GTK community is very small, 
is there any way to spread the word among you blog readers?

Thank you,

Gino

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Supporting GTK+

[Elmar Schmid]

Thank you so very much for your ingenious website. I am www.wearefreedom.at
  , www.ronpaulforpresident.at
  and 0006-IV - Oberstaatsanwaltschaft
Wien as seen on freedomworld.livejournal.com.

 

I am also seen here: http://nobullblogger.wordpress.com
  on the Favorite Links - Blog
 

 

I'll be a talk show host here:
www.campusradio.at/desktop/index.php?q=streamer

 

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President 1801-09 and author of the Declaration of Independence 1762-1826.

 

 

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Re: Supporting GTK

[Milan Bouchet-Valat]

Le jeudi 26 mai 2011 à 22:06 +0200, Giovanni Papadia a écrit :
> Thank's for help and escuseme for English.
> I need to compile my application with Eclipse CDT + minigw in Win32/64
> Operative System.
> I have problem to linker 
> The code of compiler error is down
> You can help me please..
Hi!

This list isn't meant for development of GTK or GNOME, but for
discussions about the Foundation. Please ask on gtk-list, where you'll
be much more likely to get help.

http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-list


Cheers


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Supporting GTK

[Giovanni Papadia]

Thank's for help and escuseme for English.
I need to compile my application with Eclipse CDT + minigw in Win32/64
Operative System.
I have problem to linker 
The code of compiler error is down
You can help me please..

Thank's Giovanni


 Rebuild of configuration Debug for project gtknew 

 Internal Builder is used for build   
gcc -mms-bitfields -Ic:/gtk/include/gtk-2.0 -Ic:/gtk/lib/gtk-2.0/include
-Ic:/gtk/include/atk-1.0 -Ic:/gtk/include/cairo
-Ic:/gtk/include/gdk-pixbuf-2.0 -Ic:/gtk/include/pango-1.0
-Ic:/gtk/include/glib-2.0 -Ic:/gtk/lib/glib-2.0/include -Ic:/gtk/include
-Ic:/gtk/include/freetype2 -Ic:/gtk/include/libpng14 -O0 -g3 -Wall -c
-fmessage-length=0 -ogtknew.o ..\gtknew.c
gcc -Lc:/gtk/lib/ -ogtknew.exe gtknew.o -lgtk-win32-2.0  -lglib-2.0
-lgdk-win32-2.0 -latk-1.0  -lgio-2.0 -lpangowin32-1.0 -lgdi32
-lpangocairo-1.0  -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0  -lpango-1.0  -lcairo  -lgobject-2.0
-lgmodule-2.0  -lgthread-2.0 -lintl
c:/mingw/bin/../lib/gcc/mingw32/4.4.0/../../../../mingw32/bin/ld.exe: cannot
find -lgtk-win32-2.0
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
Build error occurred, build is stopped
Time consumed: 2362  ms.
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Re: Supporting GTK+

[Sriram Ramkrishna]

I suggest you go to
http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-listfor technical
questions on GTK+.

In general though GTK+ doesn't use a browser rendering engine if you're
referring to something like webkit.  GTK+ is a widget toolkit and has it's
own way of rendering widgets.  Ask your question there, but please state
what you're trying to do first.

sri

2009/12/2 Alex Skirpa 

>  Where do I go to find programmers that know how to use GTK+ ?
>
>
>
> What browser rendering engine does GTK us?
>
>
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Supporting GTK+

[Alex Skirpa]

Where do I go to find programmers that know how to use GTK+ ? 

 

What browser rendering engine does GTK us?

 

 

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Re: Supporting GTK+

[Rui Miguel Silva Seabra]

On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 04:10:39AM +, Bruno Pinho wrote:
> This tutorial about GTK+ is 100% translated to portuguese. What do you think?
> Can I offer it to my friends so they can study?
> thanks,

Hi Bruno,

It seems to be a Standard Portuguese translation, am I right? I just skimmed
the first pages.

If so, we (ANSOL -- http://ansol.org/) would like to talk to you (private email,
please).

Best,
Rui
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Re: Supporting GTK+

[Bruno Boaventura]

2009/10/23 Bruno Pinho :
> This tutorial about GTK+ is 100% translated to portuguese. What do you
> think?
> Can I offer it to my friends so they can study?
> thanks,
> Bruno


Hey, Bruno!

Please send it to gnome-br-l...@gnome.org . That's the right place for
portuguese translations.

Cheers!

Bruno
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Re: Supporting GTK+

[Martyn Russell]

On 05/10/09 23:49, Bruno Pinho wrote:

Hi, when I did the translate this tutorial of GTK+, for who have I to
send this translate?


Hi Bruno,

If you create a bug against GTK+, component being "Website" and add the 
relevant files there, I will add them.


Thanks for doing this too! :)

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RE: Supporting GTK+

[Bruno Pinho]

Hi, when I did the translate this tutorial of GTK+, for who have I to send this 
translate?

thanks,

Bruno


From: bpinhosi...@hotmail.com
To: foundation-list@gnome.org
Subject: Supporting GTK+
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 04:26:11 +



Hi, I start to study about GTK recently, and I didn't find some tutorials in 
portuguese and I have a question: Can I translate some tutorials in the 
www.gtk.org for I study and show my friends to study this library too?
Thanks,
Bruno



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Re: Supporting GTK+

[Juanjo Marin]

El lun, 28-09-2009 a las 04:26 +, Bruno Pinho escribió:
> Hi, I start to study about GTK recently, and I didn't find some
> tutorials in portuguese and I have a question: Can I translate some
> tutorials in the www.gtk.org for I study and show my friends to study
> this library too?
> Thanks,
> Bruno
> 
Hi Bruno,

I'm sure that this work will be appreciated by the portuguese speaker
community who want to get started on GNOME :)

I think that is good idea to comment your project to the portuguese
translation teams (I added some links at the end), in order to get some
guidance and avoid duplication of work.

Cheers,

   -- Juanjo

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http://l10n.gnome.org/teams/pt_BR
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Re: Supporting GTK+

[Dave Neary]

Hi Bruno,

The answer is an emphatic yes!

Please share the results here.

Cheers,
Dave.

Bruno Pinho wrote:
> Hi, I start to study about GTK recently, and I didn't find some
> tutorials in portuguese and I have a question: Can I translate some
> tutorials in the www.gtk.org  for I study and show
> my friends to study this library too?
> Thanks,
> Bruno
> 
> 
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> é grátis!
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[Bruno Pinho]

Hi, I start to study about GTK recently, and I didn't find some tutorials in 
portuguese and I have a question: Can I translate some tutorials in the 
www.gtk.org for I study and show my friends to study this library too?

Thanks,

Bruno
  
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Re: Supporting GTK+

[Andreas Nilsson]

Seems dcvs:es are too smart for me. :'(

What did I do wrong?
http://git.gnome.org/cgit/gtk-web/commit/?id=8b58bb7c4a8b02c3d9a5b65581ae8dd950473786
- Andreas

On 08/20/2009 04:12 PM, Sandy Armstrong wrote:

If this is fixed in git, it has not been pushed to the live site.

Sandy

On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 2:08 AM, Andreas Nilsson  wrote:
   

Fixed. The header now says "Donations".
- Andreas

On 08/05/2009 11:18 PM, Sandy Armstrong wrote:
 

I believe Martyn Russell maintains the page.  At least, he did when I
asked about this in #gtk+ back in March.  Like everyone, he's probably
busy with higher priority stuff, but I agree that this situation is
pretty annoying.  :-)

Sandy

On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Lionel Dricotwrote:

   

Could we imagine to fix the confusing gtk page pointing to this list
once for all?

Who is the webmaster of that page?

Lionel



Le mercredi 05 août 2009 à 16:51 -0400, Pierre-Luc Beaudoin a écrit :

 

On Tue, 2009-08-04 at 23:15 -0700, Bo Yang wrote:

   

Recently I’m working on GTK/DirectFB, and I found a coding mistake (I
think) at gdk/directfb/gdkgeometry-directfb.c:249.

When dx or dy is negative, the destination point is calculated wrong.

Directly use coordinates in dest_extents is just fine.

 

Such emails would be more appropriate on gtk-l...@gnome.org, or
gtk-app-devel-l...@gnome.org

Also consider raising a bug on http://bugs.gnome.org

Regards,

Pierre-Luc

   

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Re: Supporting GTK+

[Sandy Armstrong]

If this is fixed in git, it has not been pushed to the live site.

Sandy

On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 2:08 AM, Andreas Nilsson wrote:
> Fixed. The header now says "Donations".
> - Andreas
>
> On 08/05/2009 11:18 PM, Sandy Armstrong wrote:
>>
>> I believe Martyn Russell maintains the page.  At least, he did when I
>> asked about this in #gtk+ back in March.  Like everyone, he's probably
>> busy with higher priority stuff, but I agree that this situation is
>> pretty annoying.  :-)
>>
>> Sandy
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Lionel Dricot  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Could we imagine to fix the confusing gtk page pointing to this list
>>> once for all?
>>>
>>> Who is the webmaster of that page?
>>>
>>> Lionel
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Le mercredi 05 août 2009 à 16:51 -0400, Pierre-Luc Beaudoin a écrit :
>>>

 On Tue, 2009-08-04 at 23:15 -0700, Bo Yang wrote:

>
> Recently I’m working on GTK/DirectFB, and I found a coding mistake (I
> think) at gdk/directfb/gdkgeometry-directfb.c:249.
>
> When dx or dy is negative, the destination point is calculated wrong.
>
> Directly use coordinates in dest_extents is just fine.
>

 Such emails would be more appropriate on gtk-l...@gnome.org, or
 gtk-app-devel-l...@gnome.org

 Also consider raising a bug on http://bugs.gnome.org

 Regards,

 Pierre-Luc

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Re: Supporting GTK+

[Andreas Nilsson]

Fixed. The header now says "Donations".
- Andreas

On 08/05/2009 11:18 PM, Sandy Armstrong wrote:

I believe Martyn Russell maintains the page.  At least, he did when I
asked about this in #gtk+ back in March.  Like everyone, he's probably
busy with higher priority stuff, but I agree that this situation is
pretty annoying.  :-)

Sandy

On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Lionel Dricot  wrote:
   

Could we imagine to fix the confusing gtk page pointing to this list
once for all?

Who is the webmaster of that page?

Lionel



Le mercredi 05 août 2009 à 16:51 -0400, Pierre-Luc Beaudoin a écrit :
 

On Tue, 2009-08-04 at 23:15 -0700, Bo Yang wrote:
   

Recently I’m working on GTK/DirectFB, and I found a coding mistake (I
think) at gdk/directfb/gdkgeometry-directfb.c:249.

When dx or dy is negative, the destination point is calculated wrong.

Directly use coordinates in dest_extents is just fine.
 

Such emails would be more appropriate on gtk-l...@gnome.org, or
gtk-app-devel-l...@gnome.org

Also consider raising a bug on http://bugs.gnome.org

Regards,

Pierre-Luc
   

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Re: Supporting GTK+

[Sandy Armstrong]

I believe Martyn Russell maintains the page.  At least, he did when I
asked about this in #gtk+ back in March.  Like everyone, he's probably
busy with higher priority stuff, but I agree that this situation is
pretty annoying.  :-)

Sandy

On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Lionel Dricot wrote:
> Could we imagine to fix the confusing gtk page pointing to this list
> once for all?
>
> Who is the webmaster of that page?
>
> Lionel
>
>
>
> Le mercredi 05 août 2009 à 16:51 -0400, Pierre-Luc Beaudoin a écrit :
>> On Tue, 2009-08-04 at 23:15 -0700, Bo Yang wrote:
>> > Recently I’m working on GTK/DirectFB, and I found a coding mistake (I
>> > think) at gdk/directfb/gdkgeometry-directfb.c:249.
>> >
>> > When dx or dy is negative, the destination point is calculated wrong.
>> >
>> > Directly use coordinates in dest_extents is just fine.
>>
>> Such emails would be more appropriate on gtk-l...@gnome.org, or
>> gtk-app-devel-l...@gnome.org
>>
>> Also consider raising a bug on http://bugs.gnome.org
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Pierre-Luc
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Re: Supporting GTK+

[Lionel Dricot]

Could we imagine to fix the confusing gtk page pointing to this list
once for all?

Who is the webmaster of that page?

Lionel



Le mercredi 05 août 2009 à 16:51 -0400, Pierre-Luc Beaudoin a écrit :
> On Tue, 2009-08-04 at 23:15 -0700, Bo Yang wrote:
> > Recently I’m working on GTK/DirectFB, and I found a coding mistake (I
> > think) at gdk/directfb/gdkgeometry-directfb.c:249.
> > 
> > When dx or dy is negative, the destination point is calculated wrong.
> > 
> > Directly use coordinates in dest_extents is just fine.
> 
> Such emails would be more appropriate on gtk-l...@gnome.org, or
> gtk-app-devel-l...@gnome.org
> 
> Also consider raising a bug on http://bugs.gnome.org
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Pierre-Luc
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Re: Supporting GTK+

[Hubert Figuiere]

On 08/05/2009 04:51 PM, Pierre-Luc Beaudoin wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-08-04 at 23:15 -0700, Bo Yang wrote:
>> Recently I’m working on GTK/DirectFB, and I found a coding mistake (I
>> think) at gdk/directfb/gdkgeometry-directfb.c:249.
>>
>> When dx or dy is negative, the destination point is calculated wrong.
>>
>> Directly use coordinates in dest_extents is just fine.
> 
> Such emails would be more appropriate on gtk-l...@gnome.org, or
> gtk-app-devel-l...@gnome.org

The problem is that the Gtk website say on this page
   http://www.gtk.org/development.html

"
Support

If you want to help the GTK+ project by donating money OR perhaps your
company wants to pay someone to develop GTK+, you can email the GNOME
foundation. Any donations to GNOME for GTK+ will ONLY be spent on GTK+.

* Contact the GNOME Foundation[1]
"

Where the URL [1] points to this list with said subject like. People
read "Support" and click (that's my empirical analysis of the situation,
but the number of emails like that received on this list just point to
that).

Lust my $0.02

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Re: Supporting GTK+

[Pierre-Luc Beaudoin]

On Tue, 2009-08-04 at 23:15 -0700, Bo Yang wrote:
> Recently I’m working on GTK/DirectFB, and I found a coding mistake (I
> think) at gdk/directfb/gdkgeometry-directfb.c:249.
> 
> When dx or dy is negative, the destination point is calculated wrong.
> 
> Directly use coordinates in dest_extents is just fine.

Such emails would be more appropriate on gtk-l...@gnome.org, or
gtk-app-devel-l...@gnome.org

Also consider raising a bug on http://bugs.gnome.org

Regards,

Pierre-Luc



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Supporting GTK+

[Bo Yang]

Hi everyone:
 Recently I'm working on GTK/DirectFB, and I found a coding mistake (I 
think) at gdk/directfb/gdkgeometry-directfb.c:249.
 When dx or dy is negative, the destination point is calculated wrong.
 Directly use coordinates in dest_extents is just fine.

B.R.!
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My name is Judi Chung and I am a Recruiter at ATR.  Currently, I am
working on 3 S/W Consultant, 1 JAVA/JAVA Script Expert, 1 Window Systems
Toolkits Expert, 1 Webkit/MIP Expert for hot project with tight
deadlines.

Pay rate is very attractive.  If you are qualified and interested,
please provide the following: 
Your MS Word resume to ju...@atr1.com ASAP. 
Your desired pay rate ranges. 
How soon can you start. 
Please rate you knowledge/skills/experience per required skills for each
position (10=expert;0=none; years used, last used, etc.)

(1)Software Consultant with EXTENSIVE knowledge of windowing
systems/toolkits (GTK, QT) & graphics (cairo, skia, openGL).  KEY:
Webkit, DirectFB, Graphic, Porting, Optimization/Performance

KEY SKILLS NEEDED: WebKit, GTK, DirectFB, Graphics and optimization or
performance improvement; For Webkit/GTK/Cairo somebody who have
experience working with platform porting of Graphics, advanced UI,
contribution to GTK or DirectFB or Cairo would be also acceptable

 

We are looking for a consultant with a successful track record and
expertise in the following areas: 
Platform porting experience of webkit or mozilla 
Architecture & design of any commercial grade browser components 
Contributions to any of projects: KHTML, KJS, mozilla, fennec, gecko,
webkit, Safari, Android webkit, google chromium, openwave, opera,
trident 

The ideal candidate must posses extensive knowledge of HTTP, SSL, curl,
HTML, XML, XHTML, CSS, DOM, JavaScript, W3C specs. 

Linux & mobile development exposure. 
Extensive knowledge of windowing systems/toolkits (GTK, QT) & graphics
(cairo, skia, openGL). 
Parsing, tree aglorithms, lex/yacc. 
End to end browser architecture. 
Highly Desired Background: 
Achieved "webkit committer" or "webkit reviewer" status 
Experience as module owner or a peer in mozilla browser 
For Webkit/GTK/Cairo somebody who have experience working with platform
porting of Graphics, advanced UI, contribution to GTK or DirectFB or
Cairo would be also acceptable

 

 


 

 

 

 

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[Sven Kolja Heinemann]

> It is expected that people who build installers for GTK+ applications for 
> Windows bundle GTK+ with them.

I don't think that this is a good idea. This way, GTK is installed multiple 
times, if someone uses more than one GTK App with Windows.
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Re: Supporting GTK+

[明覺]

On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 3:19 PM, Richard M Stallman  wrote:
>    If I plan to denote $10 monthly from China, is there a good way? I
>    found that I need to pay about $18 in order to remittance $10 from
>    China to US.
>
> You could save it up for a year, and send it all at once.
> It would be efficient that way.
>

yes, to keep it simple, only in the yearly way.


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Re: Supporting GTK+

[Richard M Stallman]

If I plan to denote $10 monthly from China, is there a good way? I
found that I need to pay about $18 in order to remittance $10 from
China to US.

You could save it up for a year, and send it all at once.
It would be efficient that way.
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Re: Supporting GTK+

[明覺]

2009/4/30 Stormy Peters :
> Hi Minjue,
>
> Thanks for your interest in donating to GNOME/GTK+!
>
> You don't need to have a Paypal account to donate via Paypal. You can use a
> credit card. If you start at http://www.gnome.org/friends, when it takes you
> to the Paypal page, there will be a link "Don't have a PayPal account? Use
> your credit card or bank account (where available)."

If I plan to denote $10 monthly from China, is there a good way? I
found that I need to pay about $18 in order to remittance $10 from
China to US.

>
> You can also donate by sending a check payable to GNOME Foundation, Inc. to:
>
> GNOME Foundation
> PO Box 101
> Groton, MA 01450
> USA
>
> Best,
>
> Stormy
>
> 2009/4/30 明覺 
>>
>> Hi fundraising, is there a document about ways to denote to gnome/gtk
>> from china? currently I know i can denote by paypal, but I haven't got
>> a paypal. thanks.
>>
>> Minjue
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 8:14 AM, Diego Escalante Urrelo
>>  wrote:
>> > On 4/29/09, 明覺  wrote:
>> >> On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 14:24 +0200, Dave Neary wrote:
>> >>  > Hi Minjue,
>> >>  >
>> >>  > 明覺 wrote:
>> >>  > >> http://www.gnome.org/friends/
>> >>  > > thanks, i got it, it seems i need to get a little familiar with
>> >> some
>> >>  > > gnome/gtk developers.
>> >>  >
>> >>  > No, there is no requirement to do that. A monthly donation is of
>> >> course
>> >>  > welcome. If however your income may be irregular, you might consider
>> >>  > manually donating the amount of your choosing to "frie...@gnome.org"
>> >> on
>> >>  > Paypal month by month.
>> >>
>> >> thanks, i will choose the monthly way. only by paypal? any other way?
>> >>
>> >
>> > You can contact fundrais...@gnome.org for donating through bank
>> > transfers.
>> >
>> > Thanks :-)!
>> >
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Supporting GTK+

[明覺]

2009/4/30 Stormy Peters :
> Hi Minjue,
>
> Thanks for your interest in donating to GNOME/GTK+!
>
> You don't need to have a Paypal account to donate via Paypal. You can use a
> credit card. If you start at http://www.gnome.org/friends, when it takes you
> to the Paypal page, there will be a link "Don't have a PayPal account? Use
> your credit card or bank account (where available)."

thanks, i will try to use bank account to denote.

>
> You can also donate by sending a check payable to GNOME Foundation, Inc. to:
>
> GNOME Foundation
> PO Box 101
> Groton, MA 01450
> USA
>
> Best,
>
> Stormy
>
> 2009/4/30 明覺 
>>
>> Hi fundraising, is there a document about ways to denote to gnome/gtk
>> from china? currently I know i can denote by paypal, but I haven't got
>> a paypal. thanks.
>>
>> Minjue
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 8:14 AM, Diego Escalante Urrelo
>>  wrote:
>> > On 4/29/09, 明覺  wrote:
>> >> On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 14:24 +0200, Dave Neary wrote:
>> >>  > Hi Minjue,
>> >>  >
>> >>  > 明覺 wrote:
>> >>  > >> http://www.gnome.org/friends/
>> >>  > > thanks, i got it, it seems i need to get a little familiar with
>> >> some
>> >>  > > gnome/gtk developers.
>> >>  >
>> >>  > No, there is no requirement to do that. A monthly donation is of
>> >> course
>> >>  > welcome. If however your income may be irregular, you might consider
>> >>  > manually donating the amount of your choosing to "frie...@gnome.org"
>> >> on
>> >>  > Paypal month by month.
>> >>
>> >> thanks, i will choose the monthly way. only by paypal? any other way?
>> >>
>> >
>> > You can contact fundrais...@gnome.org for donating through bank
>> > transfers.
>> >
>> > Thanks :-)!
>> >
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Supporting GTK+

[Stormy Peters]

Hi Minjue,

Thanks for your interest in donating to GNOME/GTK+!

You don't need to have a Paypal account to donate via Paypal. You can use a
credit card. If you start at http://www.gnome.org/friends, when it takes you
to the Paypal page, there will be a link "Don't have a PayPal account? Use
your credit card or bank account (where available)."

You can also donate by sending a check payable to GNOME Foundation, Inc. to:

GNOME Foundation
PO Box 101
Groton, MA 01450
USA


Best,

Stormy

2009/4/30 明覺 

> Hi fundraising, is there a document about ways to denote to gnome/gtk
> from china? currently I know i can denote by paypal, but I haven't got
> a paypal. thanks.
>
> Minjue
>
> On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 8:14 AM, Diego Escalante Urrelo
>  wrote:
> > On 4/29/09, 明覺  wrote:
> >> On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 14:24 +0200, Dave Neary wrote:
> >>  > Hi Minjue,
> >>  >
> >>  > 明覺 wrote:
> >>  > >> http://www.gnome.org/friends/
> >>  > > thanks, i got it, it seems i need to get a little familiar with
> some
> >>  > > gnome/gtk developers.
> >>  >
> >>  > No, there is no requirement to do that. A monthly donation is of
> course
> >>  > welcome. If however your income may be irregular, you might consider
> >>  > manually donating the amount of your choosing to "frie...@gnome.org"
> on
> >>  > Paypal month by month.
> >>
> >> thanks, i will choose the monthly way. only by paypal? any other way?
> >>
> >
> > You can contact fundrais...@gnome.org for donating through bank
> transfers.
> >
> > Thanks :-)!
> >
>
>
>
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Re: Supporting GTK+

[明覺]

Hi fundraising, is there a document about ways to denote to gnome/gtk
from china? currently I know i can denote by paypal, but I haven't got
a paypal. thanks.

Minjue

On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 8:14 AM, Diego Escalante Urrelo
 wrote:
> On 4/29/09, 明覺  wrote:
>> On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 14:24 +0200, Dave Neary wrote:
>>  > Hi Minjue,
>>  >
>>  > 明覺 wrote:
>>  > >> http://www.gnome.org/friends/
>>  > > thanks, i got it, it seems i need to get a little familiar with some
>>  > > gnome/gtk developers.
>>  >
>>  > No, there is no requirement to do that. A monthly donation is of course
>>  > welcome. If however your income may be irregular, you might consider
>>  > manually donating the amount of your choosing to "frie...@gnome.org" on
>>  > Paypal month by month.
>>
>> thanks, i will choose the monthly way. only by paypal? any other way?
>>
>
> You can contact fundrais...@gnome.org for donating through bank transfers.
>
> Thanks :-)!
>



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Re: Supporting GTK+

[Diego Escalante Urrelo]

On 4/29/09, 明覺  wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 14:24 +0200, Dave Neary wrote:
>  > Hi Minjue,
>  >
>  > 明覺 wrote:
>  > >> http://www.gnome.org/friends/
>  > > thanks, i got it, it seems i need to get a little familiar with some
>  > > gnome/gtk developers.
>  >
>  > No, there is no requirement to do that. A monthly donation is of course
>  > welcome. If however your income may be irregular, you might consider
>  > manually donating the amount of your choosing to "frie...@gnome.org" on
>  > Paypal month by month.
>
> thanks, i will choose the monthly way. only by paypal? any other way?
>

You can contact fundrais...@gnome.org for donating through bank transfers.

Thanks :-)!
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Re: Supporting GTK+

[Richard M Stallman]

If you'd sell your
software and yet wouldn't offer LGPL or GPL licensed copies of the code,
your application wont be free software. But for GTK+ that's fine.

It is legal to use GTK+ in non-free software, if it follows the
requirements of the LGPL.

However, releasing non-free software is never a good thing.
Users deserve freedom.
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Re: Supporting GTK+

[明覺]

On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 14:24 +0200, Dave Neary wrote:
> Hi Minjue,
> 
> 明覺 wrote:
> >> http://www.gnome.org/friends/
> > thanks, i got it, it seems i need to get a little familiar with some
> > gnome/gtk developers.
> 
> No, there is no requirement to do that. A monthly donation is of course
> welcome. If however your income may be irregular, you might consider
> manually donating the amount of your choosing to "frie...@gnome.org" on
> Paypal month by month.
thanks, i will choose the monthly way. only by paypal? any other way?

> 
> Thanks!
> Dave.
> 
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Re: Supporting GTK+

[Dave Neary]

Hi Minjue,

明覺 wrote:
>> http://www.gnome.org/friends/
> thanks, i got it, it seems i need to get a little familiar with some
> gnome/gtk developers.

No, there is no requirement to do that. A monthly donation is of course
welcome. If however your income may be irregular, you might consider
manually donating the amount of your choosing to "frie...@gnome.org" on
Paypal month by month.

Thanks!
Dave.

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Re: Supporting GTK+

[Dave Neary]

Hi Olivier,

GTK+ is licenced under the LGPL. If you modify GTK+ itself for your
application, then those modifications fall under the same licence. The
licence does not apply to any applications using GTK+ though.

About your money question, there is no royalties requirement at all. You
are free to do as you wish (and you may wish to donate some of the
returns to the GNOME Foundation, of course). But the licence does not
require you to have any particular pricing policy - you are free in this
matter.

Cheers,
Dave.

Olivier ESSERTEL wrote:
> Dear Support,
> 
>  
> 
> I’m French developer (beginner), I’ve create an application using GTK+
> on Windows platform, and I wish to sell it.
> 
> But, I don’t know if I must donate to Gnome Foundation some money for
> each program sold or other thing …
> 
>  
> 
> Could you explain me want I must do?
> 
>  
> 
> Regards,
> 
> *Olivier ESSERTEL*
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Supporting GTK+

[Gian Mario Tagliaretti]

On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Andreas Nilsson  wrote:

> Hi Olivier!
> You're always welcome to donate money to the GNOME Foundation via the
> Friends of GNOME program [1], but you are in no way obligated to do so. GTK+
> is licensed under the LGPL [2] and the license don't mention any payment
> clause at all.
>
> 1. http://www.gnome.org/friends/
> 2. http://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/lgpl-2.1.html

guys if you want nice postcards from Italy I'm at your complete disposal! :)

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Re: Supporting GTK+

[Philip Van Hoof]

On Mon, 2009-04-27 at 19:14 +0200, Olivier ESSERTEL wrote:

> I’m French developer (beginner), I’ve create an application using GTK+
> on Windows platform, and I wish to sell it.
> 
> But, I don’t know if I must donate to Gnome Foundation some money for
> each program sold or other thing …

This is not necessary. GTK+ is LGPL licensed which means that you can
link it against a non free software application. If you'd sell your
software and yet wouldn't offer LGPL or GPL licensed copies of the code,
your application wont be free software. But for GTK+ that's fine.

If you do want to donate money, the best place to start is here:

http://www.gnome.org/friends/

Note that this doesn't apply for libraries in the GNOME platform that
are GPL. Only for LGPL licensed ones. Most libraries in the GNOME
platform are LGPL licensed, though.


> Could you explain me want I must do?

You can just sell your application.


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Re: Supporting GTK+

[Andreas Nilsson]

Olivier ESSERTEL wrote:


Dear Support,

I’m French developer (beginner), I’ve create an application using GTK+ 
on Windows platform, and I wish to sell it.


But, I don’t know if I must donate to Gnome Foundation some money for 
each program sold or other thing …


Could you explain me want I must do?


Hi Olivier!
You're always welcome to donate money to the GNOME Foundation via the 
Friends of GNOME program [1], but you are in no way obligated to do so. 
GTK+ is licensed under the LGPL [2] and the license don't mention any 
payment clause at all.


1. http://www.gnome.org/friends/
2. http://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/lgpl-2.1.html

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Re: Supporting GTK+

[明覺]

On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 10:13 +0200, Ruben Vermeersch wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 13:00 +0800, 明覺 wrote:
> > I'm a chinese software developer and want to donate to support the
> > development of GTK+ and GNOME. Could anyone tell me the best way to
> > denote from china.
> 
> Probably the easiest way is through friends of gnome:
> http://www.gnome.org/friends/
thanks, i got it, it seems i need to get a little familiar with some
gnome/gtk developers.

> 
> Kind regards,
>Ruben
> 
> 
> --
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[明覺]

I'm a chinese developer and want to donate $10 to support the
development of GTK+ and GNOME. I will donate every month, and the amount
of money will be depend on my incoming. Please tell me the way to denote
from china.

thanks

Minjue

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Supporting GTK+

[Olivier ESSERTEL]

Dear Support,

 

I'm French developer (beginner), I've create an application using GTK+ on
Windows platform, and I wish to sell it.

But, I don't know if I must donate to Gnome Foundation some money for each
program sold or other thing .

 

Could you explain me want I must do?

 

Regards, 

Olivier ESSERTEL

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Re: Supporting GTK+

[Ruben Vermeersch]

On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 13:00 +0800, 明覺 wrote:
> I'm a chinese software developer and want to donate to support the
> development of GTK+ and GNOME. Could anyone tell me the best way to
> denote from china.

Probably the easiest way is through friends of gnome:
http://www.gnome.org/friends/

Kind regards,
   Ruben


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Re: Supporting GTK+

[明覺]

I'm a chinese software developer and want to donate to support the
development of GTK+ and GNOME. Could anyone tell me the best way to
denote from china.

 thanks

 Minjue

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Re: Supporting GTK+

[Sandy Armstrong]

On 03/27/2009 09:15 AM, Yasmin OROU GUIDOU wrote:

Hi,
I just want to know if you have a tutorial to configure GTK+ for
Netbeans C/C++ 6.5.1

thanks for your help.


Please try one of the GTK+ mailing lists:

http://www.gtk.org/mailing-lists.html

Best,
Sandy
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[Yasmin OROU GUIDOU]

Hi,
I just want to know if you have a tutorial to configure GTK+ for 
Netbeans C/C++ 6.5.1


thanks for your help.

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Re: Supporting GTK+

[Baptiste Mille-Mathias]

Le dimanche 08 mars 2009 à 16:39 +, Splodgeness Tiberius Abounds a
écrit :
> Please could you tell me if there are any versions of GTK+ installed
> by default in any versions of Linux. I have spent all weekend
> attempting to install GTK+ in Debian 4.0 and Ubuntu 8.10 and always
> fall at the first hurdle (Pango.)   I am sure this is merely the first
> of an abundance of issues that I will come across and I simply don't
> have the time available to go through this again. If there is a Linux
> distro that already has GTK+ installed so that I can install
> mono-develop then I will simply install that distro.   thanks in
> advance   Patrick Stowe
Hello,

1) This list is not a support list, so ask your question on mailing list
dedicated for this purpose.

2) GTK+ is available on most of Linux distributions I heard of,
especially Ubuntu which come in a desktop flavor with GNOME installed so
you've have GTK+, so I guess you don't even read documentation, and I
suspect you're trying to compile package instead of just installing it.

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Re: Supporting GTK+

[Adam Schreiber]

On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 12:39 PM, Splodgeness Tiberius Abounds
 wrote:
> Please could you tell me if there are any versions of GTK+ installed by
> default in any versions of Linux.
> I have spent all weekend attempting to install GTK+ in Debian 4.0 and Ubuntu
> 8.10 and always fall at the first hurdle (Pango.)
>
> I am sure this is merely the first of an abundance of issues that I will
> come across and I simply don't have the time available to go through this
> again. If there is a Linux distro that already has GTK+ installed so that I
> can install mono-develop then I will simply install that distro.

I'm sure Ubuntu has GTK+ installed if you're looking at the GNOME
desktop after logging in.  However, Ubuntu doesn't install development
tools by default.  monodevelop is in the repositories for Jaunty 9.04
so I can simply run

sudo apt-get build-dep monodevelop

to pull in all of the build dependencies.

This isn't really the appropriate mailing list for this request.
Please consult http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo in the future.
You would have found gtk-l...@gnome.org.  But really this is a
distribution concern and Ubuntu has extensive forums for support.

Cheers,

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[Wouter Bolsterlee]

2009-03-08 klockan 17:39 skrev Splodgeness Tiberius Abounds:
> Please could you tell me if there are any versions of GTK+ installed by
> default in any versions of Linux.
> I have spent all weekend attempting to install GTK+ in Debian 4.0 and
> Ubuntu 8.10 and always fall at the first hurdle (Pango.)

Virtually *ALL* distributions have GTK+ preinstalled nowadays, especially
Ubuntu since it is based on Gnome. You probably want to install the
libgtk2.0-dev package.

> I am sure this is merely the first of an abundance of issues that I will
> come across and I simply don't have the time available to go through this
> again. If there is a Linux distro that already has GTK+ installed so that
> I can install mono-develop then I will simply install that distro.

Don't blame the distros for things you have overlooked.

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[Splodgeness Tiberius Abounds]

Please could you tell me if there are any versions of GTK+ installed by default 
in any versions of Linux.
I have spent all weekend attempting to install GTK+ in Debian 4.0 and Ubuntu 
8.10 and always fall at the first hurdle (Pango.)

I am sure this is merely the first of an abundance of issues that I will come 
across and I simply don't have the time available to go through this again. If 
there is a Linux distro that already has GTK+ installed so that I can install 
mono-develop then I will simply install that distro.

thanks in advance

Patrick Stowe

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[Ranjeet Kuruvilla]

Hello
I hope I write to the right source. I want to redesign Windows and Gnome 
Desktop Appearance. Not big changes, only shift buttons like "close" 
etc., all in the name of making the design more beautiful and accessable 
to touchscreen users. Do You know where to start?

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Re: Supporting GTK

[Asaf Atar]

Hi Vincent,
thank you for the link and for the note,
Assaf

On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 2:37 PM, Vincent Untz  wrote:

> Le samedi 27 décembre 2008, à 17:04 +0200, Asaf Atar a écrit :
> > Hi,
> > Can you please send me a link to the documentation deals with:
> > Porting gtk 1.2 application to gtk 2
>
> Hi,
>
> This is not the appropriate mailing list for this (gtk-app-devel-list
> would be the right list), but the GTK+ documentation contains some notes
> about this:
>
> http://library.gnome.org/devel/gtk/stable/gtk-changes-2-0.html
>
> Vincent
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Re: Supporting GTK

[Vincent Untz]

Le samedi 27 décembre 2008, à 17:04 +0200, Asaf Atar a écrit :
> Hi,
> Can you please send me a link to the documentation deals with:
> Porting gtk 1.2 application to gtk 2

Hi,

This is not the appropriate mailing list for this (gtk-app-devel-list
would be the right list), but the GTK+ documentation contains some notes
about this:

http://library.gnome.org/devel/gtk/stable/gtk-changes-2-0.html

Vincent

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[Asaf Atar]

Hi,
Can you please send me a link to the documentation deals with:
Porting gtk 1.2 application to gtk 2
Thanks and best regards,

Assaf atar.
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[Asaf Atar]

Hi,
Can you please send me a link to the documentation deals with:
Porting gtk 1.2 application to gtk 2
Thanks and best regards,

Assaf atar.
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Re: Supporting GTK+

[Vincent Untz]

Hi,

Le mardi 16 décembre 2008, à 16:59 +0800, wuy a écrit :
> Hi Please tell me how to zoom on the gtkwindow/gtkwidget

You should probably send your question to the gtk-app-devel-list mailing
list.

Thanks,

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Re: Supporting GTK+

[natan yellin]

Hi Wuy,

On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 10:59 AM, wuy  wrote:

> Hi Please tell me how to zoom on the gtkwindow/gtkwidget
>
Can you please explain what you're trying to do. I'm not sure I understood.

>
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[wuy]

Hi 
Please tell me how to zoom on the gtkwindow/gtkwidget


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Re: Supporting GTK+

[Murray Cumming]

On Mon, 2008-06-02 at 10:49 +0200, Andreas Nilsson wrote:
> What is the preferred list for these kinds of questions?

Job postings on gtk-list are considered OK by its list admins. That's
not the best place but it will reach most of the relevant people.

See "Are job postings OK?" here:
http://mail.gnome.org/


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Re: Supporting GTK+

[Richard M Stallman]

Perhaps is the best solution to open a gnome-jobs mailing list?

People can use the FSF's job page, fsf.org/resources/jobs/listings,
for GNOME-related jobs.

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Re: Supporting GTK+

[Dave Neary]

Hi,

Philip Van Hoof wrote:
> Perhaps is the best solution to open a gnome-jobs mailing list?

How would interested parties find it? Who would subscribe?

> I agree that indeed the foundation's mailinglist is not the right one
> for Brian's jobvertising.
> 
> However, certain people and subcontract companies might be interested in
> this kind of opportunities. Making this more easy for both suppliers and
> customers can only be positive for GNOME as a software platform and
> organization in my opinion.

I definitely think this is something that we should organise. But in
general, I'm not keen on Yet Another Mailing List as a solution.

Cheers,
Dave.

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Re: Supporting GTK+

[Olav Vitters]

On Mon, Jun 02, 2008 at 10:49:40AM +0200, Andreas Nilsson wrote:
> Perhaps this is a issue with the GNOME website.

Long time thing to change it...

> Looking at http://www.gnome.org/contact/ it first and foremost lists IRC 
> channels and later down on the page a bunch of e-mail addresses, without 
> much further explanation on what their respective usage is.

http://mail.gnome.org/ shows gtk-list. I wouldn't expect a job posting
explanation on contact GNOME (it is not about getting in contact, more
about finding specific persons / announcing something).

> What is the preferred list for these kinds of questions?

Personally, I don't see the relation between a job posting and a
question. Ir do you mean how to figure out where to make a job posting?
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Re: Supporting GTK+

[Philip Van Hoof]

Hey Wouter, Brian,

Perhaps is the best solution to open a gnome-jobs mailing list?

I agree that indeed the foundation's mailinglist is not the right one
for Brian's jobvertising.

However, certain people and subcontract companies might be interested in
this kind of opportunities. Making this more easy for both suppliers and
customers can only be positive for GNOME as a software platform and
organization in my opinion.

If people seek a mailing-list maintainer for this, I volunteer. I'm not
saying I'm the best choice for this, though (I can imagine a certain
degree of objectivity is necessary here).

On Mon, 2008-06-02 at 10:39 +0200, Wouter Bolsterlee wrote:
> 2008-05-29 klockan 19:40 skrev Brian Ridgeway:
> > [...] is looking to hire either two contractors or contract
> > to full time individuals for our [...] site as soon as possible.
> 
> This is NOT the right place to send announcements and job offers like these.
> The Gnome Foundation list is a place to discuss matters related to, well, as
> the name already very clearly implies, the Gnome Foundation. Your mail does
> not fit under this topic and is therefore unappropriate and will be
> considered as spam by many readers.
> 
> > I have attached a short job description as well as a brochure concerning
> > our product focus.
> 
> Your mail has been sent to a public mailing list with may subscribers. Each
> of them will have to download your really big and useless attachment. Those
> paying for the bandwidth they use will have to pay to download your
> unappropriate mail.
> 
> I strongly urge you to refrain from making such posts in the future.
> 

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Re: Supporting GTK+

[Andreas Nilsson]

Wouter Bolsterlee wrote:
> 2008-05-29 klockan 19:40 skrev Brian Ridgeway:
>   
>> [...] is looking to hire either two contractors or contract
>> to full time individuals for our [...] site as soon as possible.
>> 
>
> This is NOT the right place to send announcements and job offers like these.
> The Gnome Foundation list is a place to discuss matters related to, well, as
> the name already very clearly implies, the Gnome Foundation. Your mail does
> not fit under this topic and is therefore unappropriate and will be
> considered as spam by many readers.
>   
Perhaps this is a issue with the GNOME website.
Looking at http://www.gnome.org/contact/ it first and foremost lists IRC 
channels and later down on the page a bunch of e-mail addresses, without 
much further explanation on what their respective usage is.
What is the preferred list for these kinds of questions?
Lets make sure to fix this.
- Andreas

>> I have attached a short job description as well as a brochure concerning
>> our product focus.
>> 
>
> Your mail has been sent to a public mailing list with may subscribers. Each
> of them will have to download your really big and useless attachment. Those
> paying for the bandwidth they use will have to pay to download your
> unappropriate mail.
>
> I strongly urge you to refrain from making such posts in the future.
>
>   mvrgr, Wouter
>
>   
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Re: Supporting GTK+

[Wouter Bolsterlee]

2008-05-29 klockan 19:40 skrev Brian Ridgeway:
> [...] is looking to hire either two contractors or contract
> to full time individuals for our [...] site as soon as possible.

This is NOT the right place to send announcements and job offers like these.
The Gnome Foundation list is a place to discuss matters related to, well, as
the name already very clearly implies, the Gnome Foundation. Your mail does
not fit under this topic and is therefore unappropriate and will be
considered as spam by many readers.

> I have attached a short job description as well as a brochure concerning
> our product focus.

Your mail has been sent to a public mailing list with may subscribers. Each
of them will have to download your really big and useless attachment. Those
paying for the bandwidth they use will have to pay to download your
unappropriate mail.

I strongly urge you to refrain from making such posts in the future.

  mvrgr, Wouter

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Supporting GTK+ (UNCLASSIFIED)

[Wyatt, Darren L Mr CTR USA AMC]

Classification:  UNCLASSIFIED 
Caveats: NONE

Hello, 

I am currently working on getting gtk+2 to work on a sparc machine
loaded with Solaris 8.  Your website references a version of pango and
says that is it for GNU/Linux and Unix.  Do you know if this version
will work with Solaris Unix on a sparc machine?  Also do you know of
this version that is precompiled?

Thanks, 
 
Darren Wyatt
  Systems Management Group
Stanley Associates
  Phone: 442-2729
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Re: Supporting GTK+

[Mikael Hallendal]

3 mar 2008 kl. 00.38 skrev Bob:

Hi Bob,

This is not the mailing list for these kind of questions, I suggest  
you use gtk-app-devel list [1].

Not entirely sure what you want to do but you can look at  
gtk_window_set_decorated() [2] for starts. You may also take a look in  
the GNOME Human Interface Guidelines to see what is suggested about  
main windows [3].

Best Regards,
   Mikael Hallendal

[1] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-app-devel-list

[2] 
http://library.gnome.org/devel/gtk/stable/GtkWindow.html#gtk-window-set-decorated

[3] http://library.gnome.org/devel/hig-book/stable/windows-primary.html.en

> Hi,
>
> thank you for reading this email.
>
> I would like to give a suggestion about window Borders. This might  
> have
> been discussed before, but I feel the need to address the issue.
>
> If you look at most Windows and Mac apps, the newer ones don't have
> window borders. I agree that this is the best way to go. I have  
> noticed
> that most apps developed with GTK+ have windows boarder and did not no
> if it's because the GTK+ doesn't support not having borders or if the
> developers are just not creating apps without borders. I feel that
> borders make the app feel a little cluttersome. Is there a way to  
> ensure
> I don't have borders on my windows? I would really really really  
> love to
> develop apps without borders.
>
> Thanks!
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[Bob]

Hi,

thank you for reading this email. 

I would like to give a suggestion about window Borders. This might have
been discussed before, but I feel the need to address the issue. 

If you look at most Windows and Mac apps, the newer ones don't have
window borders. I agree that this is the best way to go. I have noticed
that most apps developed with GTK+ have windows boarder and did not no
if it's because the GTK+ doesn't support not having borders or if the
developers are just not creating apps without borders. I feel that
borders make the app feel a little cluttersome. Is there a way to ensure
I don't have borders on my windows? I would really really really love to
develop apps without borders.

Thanks!

The Net Duck

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[harikrishnanp]

Hi
Is GTK-Directfb2.0.9 support still avaialabe?

Thanks & Regards,
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Re: Fwd: Supporting Gtk+ Maintenance

[Tim Janik]

On Thu, 29 Mar 2007, Vincent Untz wrote:


Hi Murray,

Le jeudi 29 mars 2007, à 23:27, Murray Cumming a écrit :

On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 21:25 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote:

I'm wondering if gtk-devel-list is the place where the discussion about
collaboration should be happening: I don't know if having a mix of
technical discussions and collaboration discussions is good or not.
Having a separate mailing list might help, but it might also be a stupid
idea :-)

What does the GTK+ team think?


If it's going to be a public discussion then it should be on
gtk-devel-list. It would be silly to create a new mailing list just to
discuss this one subject. If it's meant to be a private discussion then
a CC list will probably do it, with the advisory and board lists in it.


My point is: this is up to the GTK+ team to decide. I personnally don't
think there'll be anything private.


i fully agree with Murray here, so far all collaboration efforts have been
discussed on gtk-devel-list and i think we can continue to do so, e.g.:
  http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-devel-list/2007-April/msg00058.html
  (Gtk+ Volunteer tasks)


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Re: Fwd: Supporting Gtk+ Maintenance

[Vincent Untz]

Hi Murray,

Le jeudi 29 mars 2007, à 23:27, Murray Cumming a écrit :
> On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 21:25 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote:
> > I'm wondering if gtk-devel-list is the place where the discussion about
> > collaboration should be happening: I don't know if having a mix of
> > technical discussions and collaboration discussions is good or not.
> > Having a separate mailing list might help, but it might also be a stupid
> > idea :-)
> > 
> > What does the GTK+ team think?
> 
> If it's going to be a public discussion then it should be on
> gtk-devel-list. It would be silly to create a new mailing list just to
> discuss this one subject. If it's meant to be a private discussion then
> a CC list will probably do it, with the advisory and board lists in it.

My point is: this is up to the GTK+ team to decide. I personnally don't
think there'll be anything private.

> You might also want to arrange an extra conference call with the
> advisory board if that's more to their liking. But that will probably
> take 2 or 3 months to arrange.

This is definitely something we'll do if people feel it's necessary.

> I'm disappointed that this has been turned into a discussion about
> discussing.

We're only trying to know how the GTK+ team wants to work. This is only
a first step :-)

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Re: Fwd: Supporting Gtk+ Maintenance

[Murray Cumming]

On Thu, 2007-03-29 at 21:25 +0200, Vincent Untz wrote:
> Le lundi 26 mars 2007, à 14:12, Quim Gil a écrit :
> > On 3/14/07, Tim Janik wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello Foundation Board.
> > 
> > Hello GTK+ team.
> > 
> > > The Gtk+ project is in dire lack of new maintainers, mostly to review 
> > > (...)
> > 
> > Thanks for this report, and actually thanks for the first report you
> > sent back in Christmas. On thaty time the board was in transition, but
> > we already took your points and since then this has been one of the
> > main points in our agenda.
> > 
> > This is why GTK+ was one of the 2 main issues presented to the
> > advisory board members this week, together with Documentation. There
> > are lots of aspects to fix and improve in the GNOME project, but the
> > board has decided to put these two on top of the agenda.
> > 
> > A practical conclusion of the discussion this week was that we need a
> > space for discussion where the GTK+ team, the board, the advisory
> > board companies and probably any other key GTK+ contributor /
> > stakeholder / user can share this discussion. An official channel
> > where we can hold a discussion from these different perspectives in
> > order to solve the main issues and push GTK+ to the bright horizon it
> > deserves. This channel might be online+offline, something like a
> > combination of a specific mailing list + meetings in relevant
> > conferences + ...
> > 
> > The GTK+ core team has the initiative proposing the space and the
> > bootstrapping process of collaboration. Let's use this list to decide
> > the new channel.
> 
> I'm wondering if gtk-devel-list is the place where the discussion about
> collaboration should be happening: I don't know if having a mix of
> technical discussions and collaboration discussions is good or not.
> Having a separate mailing list might help, but it might also be a stupid
> idea :-)
> 
> What does the GTK+ team think?

If it's going to be a public discussion then it should be on
gtk-devel-list. It would be silly to create a new mailing list just to
discuss this one subject. If it's meant to be a private discussion then
a CC list will probably do it, with the advisory and board lists in it.

You might also want to arrange an extra conference call with the
advisory board if that's more to their liking. But that will probably
take 2 or 3 months to arrange.

I'm disappointed that this has been turned into a discussion about
discussing.


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Re: Fwd: Supporting Gtk+ Maintenance

[Vincent Untz]

Le lundi 26 mars 2007, à 14:12, Quim Gil a écrit :
> On 3/14/07, Tim Janik wrote:
> >
> > Hello Foundation Board.
> 
> Hello GTK+ team.
> 
> > The Gtk+ project is in dire lack of new maintainers, mostly to review (...)
> 
> Thanks for this report, and actually thanks for the first report you
> sent back in Christmas. On thaty time the board was in transition, but
> we already took your points and since then this has been one of the
> main points in our agenda.
> 
> This is why GTK+ was one of the 2 main issues presented to the
> advisory board members this week, together with Documentation. There
> are lots of aspects to fix and improve in the GNOME project, but the
> board has decided to put these two on top of the agenda.
> 
> A practical conclusion of the discussion this week was that we need a
> space for discussion where the GTK+ team, the board, the advisory
> board companies and probably any other key GTK+ contributor /
> stakeholder / user can share this discussion. An official channel
> where we can hold a discussion from these different perspectives in
> order to solve the main issues and push GTK+ to the bright horizon it
> deserves. This channel might be online+offline, something like a
> combination of a specific mailing list + meetings in relevant
> conferences + ...
> 
> The GTK+ core team has the initiative proposing the space and the
> bootstrapping process of collaboration. Let's use this list to decide
> the new channel.

I'm wondering if gtk-devel-list is the place where the discussion about
collaboration should be happening: I don't know if having a mix of
technical discussions and collaboration discussions is good or not.
Having a separate mailing list might help, but it might also be a stupid
idea :-)

What does the GTK+ team think?

Vincent

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Fwd: Supporting Gtk+ Maintenance

[Quim Gil]

This email was intended to go to the list as well, sorry.

-- Forwarded message --
Date: Mar 17, 2007 7:32 AM
Subject: Re: Supporting Gtk+ Maintenance
To: Tim Janik


On 3/14/07, Tim Janik wrote:
>
> Hello Foundation Board.

Hello GTK+ team.

> The Gtk+ project is in dire lack of new maintainers, mostly to review (...)

Thanks for this report, and actually thanks for the first report you
sent back in Christmas. On thaty time the board was in transition, but
we already took your points and since then this has been one of the
main points in our agenda.

This is why GTK+ was one of the 2 main issues presented to the
advisory board members this week, together with Documentation. There
are lots of aspects to fix and improve in the GNOME project, but the
board has decided to put these two on top of the agenda.

A practical conclusion of the discussion this week was that we need a
space for discussion where the GTK+ team, the board, the advisory
board companies and probably any other key GTK+ contributor /
stakeholder / user can share this discussion. An official channel
where we can hold a discussion from these different perspectives in
order to solve the main issues and push GTK+ to the bright horizon it
deserves. This channel might be online+offline, something like a
combination of a specific mailing list + meetings in relevant
conferences + ...

The GTK+ core team has the initiative proposing the space and the
bootstrapping process of collaboration. Let's use this list to decide
the new channel.

> So for the foundation board, there are two things that can be done
> to improve the current situation:
>
> 1) Please present the issue at hand (this email and the email linked
> to above) to the advisory board members, to make sure the companies
> involved are aware of the situation. And if possible, spread the
> word to other involved parties or (non advisory) companies.

Done the first part, advisory board organizations are aware now (of
course most were aware before, but now it's official). Any ideas
regarding how the board can spread the message to other organizations
and channels are welcome, we will do our best.

> 2) Please investigate if the hiring/sponsoring of a full time Gtk+
> maintainer position by the Gnome foundation is also a possibility.

This investigation and the rest of points you made in this message
need to be discussed in this common channel to be created. There is no
point having this discussion without the GTK+ team, and in fact we
expect the GTK+ team to be the first proposing specific solutions. You
need to lead this agenda.

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Re: Supporting Gtk+ Maintenance

[मयंक जैन ( makuchaku)]

On 3/15/07, Tim Janik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> * Companies (especially those on the advisory board) can submit names
>of developers (employees) who can be put on the task of Gtk+
>maintenance.
>Ideally, the developers should already have experience with Gtk+
>project contributions, and they should be team-oriented and
>communicative to be able to develop a good work relationship with
>the existing Gtk+ community.
>
> * The Gtk+ project would like to see those people work full time if
>possible, but regular part time assistance can also help a lot.

Code maintainence  is an important part of any project's life cycle &
is often the most dreaded part by developers. Majority of them think
that adding new features is _the_ most exciting part of the project
cycle. However, this phase is good (& very important) for the
developers who are in the process of learning the toolkit's internals
- like me.

I would suggest that when the decision about hiring developers is made
(or discussed), maintainence work should be strongly put forward...
specially since we will decide to branch/develop for the 3.0 branch in
future.

I would be happy to volunteer towards maintainence of GTK+.

Regards,
Makuchaku
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Re: Supporting Gtk+ Maintenance

[Behdad Esfahbod]

On Thu, 2007-03-15 at 09:19 +1100, Jeff Waugh wrote:
> 
> > So for the foundation board, there are two things that can be done
> > to improve the current situation:
> > 
> > 1) Please present the issue at hand (this email and the email linked
> >to above) to the advisory board members, to make sure the
> companies
> >involved are aware of the situation. And if possible, spread the
> >word to other involved parties or (non advisory) companies.
> 
> Your timing is fantastic -- we're having an Advisory Board meeting
> tomorrow morning. I will bring it up then. :-) 

Indeed.  This has been in my agenda for tomorrow's meeting, and I'm
taking notes about it right now.

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Re: Supporting Gtk+ Maintenance

[Jeff Waugh]

> So for the foundation board, there are two things that can be done
> to improve the current situation:
> 
> 1) Please present the issue at hand (this email and the email linked
>to above) to the advisory board members, to make sure the companies
>involved are aware of the situation. And if possible, spread the
>word to other involved parties or (non advisory) companies.

Your timing is fantastic -- we're having an Advisory Board meeting tomorrow
morning. I will bring it up then. :-)

> 2) Please investigate if the hiring/sponsoring of a full time Gtk+
>maintainer position by the Gnome foundation is also a possibility.

Current and previous boards have been very cautious about the idea of hiring
developers. We'd prefer to hire people who can support the work of hackers.
That's not to say it's completely off the table, but there's more we can do
with contributing companies beforehand.

Just for the record, I'm taking this issue very seriously. It's one of the
reasons I brought up GTK+ collaboration with the GNOME Foundation (and the
other project mentioned during the GTK+ meeting at GUADEC).

Thanks,

- Jeff

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Supporting Gtk+ Maintenance

[Tim Janik]

Hello Foundation Board.

The Gtk+ project is in dire lack of new maintainers, mostly to review
patches, so that bugs can be fixed and new features can be introduced.
We need suggestions for candidates, probably for particular sub-sections
of Gtk+. Ideally, these candidates would be employed to work on Gtk+.

To avoid any misunderstandings, the project is not in lack of more
patches or code contributions, what it lacks is the human resources
to handle the flow of incoming patches and bug reports, and do code
maintenance work.

A more in-depth description of this situation can be found here:
   http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-devel-list/2006-December/msg00074.html

In response to that write up, various people have made suggestions to
improve the situation and asked for opportunities or ways to help.
Some of these suggestions involve the Gnome foundation board and Gnome
advisory board, which is why I'm writing you.

A lot of companies are involved in Gnome and Gtk+ at this point, and
probably can be expected to have a vivid self interest in our core
technologies to stay reliable and properly maintained. In order to help
to achieve this, this can be done:

* Companies (especially those on the advisory board) can submit names
   of developers (employees) who can be put on the task of Gtk+
   maintenance.
   Ideally, the developers should already have experience with Gtk+
   project contributions, and they should be team-oriented and
   communicative to be able to develop a good work relationship with
   the existing Gtk+ community.

* The Gtk+ project would like to see those people work full time if
   possible, but regular part time assistance can also help a lot.

* These positions must not be limited to work on constrained feature
   sets only. There are enough limited scope/feature bound contributions
   already. As a consequence, there is a strong need for more general
   involvement and maintenance work like cleanups, regression fixes,
   refactorings and similar things.

So for the foundation board, there are two things that can be done
to improve the current situation:

1) Please present the issue at hand (this email and the email linked
to above) to the advisory board members, to make sure the companies
involved are aware of the situation. And if possible, spread the
word to other involved parties or (non advisory) companies.

2) Please investigate if the hiring/sponsoring of a full time Gtk+
maintainer position by the Gnome foundation is also a possibility.

---
ciaoTJ
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