Re: Women in GNOME (Was: Code Of Conduct)

2006-06-05 Thread Quim Gil
El dj 01 de 06 del 2006 a les 10:51 -0500, en/na Shaun McCance va escriure: there tends to be a reasonably high percentage of women in technical jobs that aren't necessarily programming (though they may involve some programming), such as project management, tech writing, graphic design, and

Re: Women in GNOME (Was: Code Of Conduct)

2006-06-02 Thread Murray Cumming
I think it is a natural step to take after the EU and FLOSSPOLS report has shown that women are being excluded from the community.- This rubs me the wrong way. It's not like we're actively working to exclude women, Asians, or Martians from GNOME. Nor are we actively trying to make GNOME a

Re: Women in GNOME (Was: Code Of Conduct)

2006-06-01 Thread Luis Villa
On 6/1/06, Murray Cumming [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anne wrote: [snip] I do not say this to start a new long debat in this tread. But it has become obvious that the 1% participation of women in FLOSS is embarrassing and we need to have a look at why this is the case and make some cultural

Re: Women in GNOME (Was: Code Of Conduct)

2006-06-01 Thread Dave Neary
Hi, Luis Villa wrote: Such a plan should be written by someone who has actually been involved in IRC, our mailing lists, bugzilla, etc., *as a developer*- which, sorry, isn't Anne. It will not work if it is not driven by someone with such experience. That's not so. There's nothing

Re: Women in GNOME (Was: Code Of Conduct)

2006-06-01 Thread Baris Cicek
Actually, it should be someone who is able to detect possible obstacles that put Asians or Women out of GNOME (or in general Free Software). I doubt that anyone have any emprical study about that. But is it harsh and rude behavior of developers or the community? Or technical limits? Or even

Re: Women in GNOME (Was: Code Of Conduct)

2006-06-01 Thread Anne Østergaard
tor, 01 06 2006 kl. 16:27 +0300, skrev Baris Cicek: Actually, it should be someone who is able to detect possible obstacles that put Asians or Women out of GNOME (or in general Free Software). I doubt that anyone have any emprical study about that. But is it harsh and rude behavior of

Re: Women in GNOME (Was: Code Of Conduct)

2006-06-01 Thread Anne Østergaard
tor, 01 06 2006 kl. 08:13 -0400, skrev Luis Villa: On 6/1/06, Murray Cumming [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anne wrote: [snip] I do not say this to start a new long debat in this tread. But it has become obvious that the 1% participation of women in FLOSS is embarrassing and we need to

Re: Women in GNOME (Was: Code Of Conduct)

2006-06-01 Thread Alan Cox
On Iau, 2006-06-01 at 14:33 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote: Hmm, how about people working together? It just seems that the person who most most obviously wants this should be the person trying to make it happen. I'd be wary of pursuing just the women in GNOME issue, because many of the same

Re: Women in GNOME (Was: Code Of Conduct)

2006-06-01 Thread Anne Østergaard
tor, 01 06 2006 kl. 18:57 +0200, skrev Murray Cumming: On Thu, 2006-06-01 at 14:57 +0100, Alan Cox wrote: On Iau, 2006-06-01 at 14:33 +0200, Murray Cumming wrote: Hmm, how about people working together? It just seems that the person who most most obviously wants this should be the person

Re: Women in GNOME (Was: Code Of Conduct)

2006-06-01 Thread Germán Poó Caamaño
On Thu, 2006-06-01 at 22:21 +0200, Anne Østergaard wrote: tor, 01 06 2006 kl. 18:57 +0200, skrev Murray Cumming: On Thu, 2006-06-01 at 14:57 +0100, Alan Cox wrote: [...] Also if Code of Conduct is too strong then Expected Behaviour perhaps. Personally I don't see a problem with Code of

Re: Women in GNOME (Was: Code Of Conduct)

2006-06-01 Thread David Neary
Hi, Anne Østergaard wrote: tor, 01 06 2006 kl. 18:57 +0200, skrev Murray Cumming: I think it is a natural step to take after the EU and FLOSSPOLS report has shown that women are being excluded from the community.- What I've seen shows that women are not participating in the community - this

Re: Women in GNOME (Was: Code Of Conduct)

2006-06-01 Thread Dominic Lachowicz
I think it is a natural step to take after the EU and FLOSSPOLS report has shown that women are being excluded from the community.- This rubs me the wrong way. It's not like we're actively working to exclude women, Asians, or Martians from GNOME. Nor are we actively trying to make GNOME a